Konoplyanka 
would be a top signing. Not the Reus we all wanted, but huge potential and could be a great player for us.
would be a top signing. Not the Reus we all wanted, but huge potential and could be a great player for us.Twitter Discussion
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You've been seemingly losing your shit for a week or so now, since the season ended. It's just not healthy mate, you'll give yourself a coronary.
We're only a week or two on from the end of the season, the transfer window isn't even open, and already people are being whipped into a frenzy by the media and their chopping and changing of what they're reporting. Let's just see where LVG takes us. He's the man in charge, he's been there and done it before and has experience of building winning sides who play a nice brand of football. Try and trust him to know what he's doing and how to go about it. Thus summer couldn't be any different from last, because here with have someone who doesn't need to learn on the job, he already knows.
Just relax, and let the man do his job.
Serious question, after being led up the garden path by Jamie Jackson et al. about Kroos why should we believe this story? It might sound cynical but this just feels like his agent using a Man Utd link to get Liverpool to revive their interest, just like how Sagna's agent obviously used us to bounce City into negotiations.
The Manchester press pack have been banging the drum for the Moyes' targets for ages. If we take at face value that Kroos wasn't a Van Gaal target and that priorities have changed then I wonder if we can believe any link in the media. If Van Gaal wants his own targets all the briefing United have done for months will be out of date.
I might completely avoid the internet til Monday and see who our targets are by then. Seems to be changing by the day.
If by "we" you mean the people losing their shit in the transfer forum, before the transfer window has opened, then yes, "you" do.Window hasn't even opened yet and we're already looking like clowns
The problem I have with this is that buying the best players doesn't start on 1st June when the market opens. It starts months before. If we've got 5 deals lined up and then they get vetoed by the man in charge, as happened last year, then you're scrabbling for whats left and you get shite. I believe that we should be forcing through the moves that Moyes lined up because whilst he wasn't up to the job in many respects, he has an excellent reputation for spotting talent. If Kroos, Carvalho, Benatia or Mangala and Shaw where the deals lined up then we should be going for these in my opinion. Van Gaal should be able to, with his experience, make these players work in his system.
There is a danger that we'll be left with good players, but not good enough. And then the cycle of mediocrity starts.
Do you think the papers will get the blindfolded chimp to throw it's shit at a wall of player names, sorry I mean meet their "United source", over the weekend?
I haven't lost my shit though have I?
The Mirror reported our interest in Konoplyanka first. Nothing new in Jamie's report.
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The English papers are linking us to almost everyone who has played for LvG! The Mirror are now claiming that we turned down the chance to sign De Vrij, after they claimed a few days back that he was one of top defensive targets.. This is a BS, I doubt we were actually interested in most of the players that have been linked with us in the past few weeks, like Mueller, Strootman, Depay, etc..
It's silly how they never fail to mention that either LvG gave the "nod" or "approved" the move for every player that's linked to us too..
It's silly how they never fail to mention that either LvG gave the "nod" or "approved" the move for every player that's linked to us too..
Yeah, let's sign a lot of players that our new manager might not rate and might not want. As we all know, Van Gaal is the type of manager to be told what to do so if he's handed players and told to play them then he'll just accept that and all will be merry. Him not rating them doesn't mean shit, as long as the manager we sacked for being incompetent rated them. As we all know, he managed to pick us some real gems last summer and certainly didn't feck up the whole transfer window from start to finish.
Sure, let's sack our manager and sign everyone he wanted and tell the new man to just deal with it. Don't want Carvalho? Tough, we've just signed him for £38mil, play him. Don't rate Kroos? He was £40mil so you'll just have to deal with it. You won't play him you say, Louis? Tough, we'll pick the team, you just coach them.
Yeah, foisting hunreds of millions of pounds worth of footballers on a manager who didn't want them, doesn't rate them and doesn't play players he doesn't want to play (see Riquelme at Barca) isn't at all an unmitigated disaster waiting to happen.
What world do you people live in? This thread is the definition of absolute insanity.
And equally, if you read my post, I didn't say you had.
Again, what concerns me about this report is that it states we've had Konoplyanka watched a number of times. Given Van Gaal's only just been appointed I'm guessing that scouting was done for David Moyes. So how do we know this is not another David Moyes target that, in reality, Van Gaal isn't interested in?
Konoplyanka's a really good player and would be an immediate upgrade on Young and Valencia, but I'm really sceptical about transfer rumours now. The newspapers have been running with the same stories for ages and ages Shaw, Kroos, Carvalho etc. and none of them have come off. In fact after saying we'd done a deal for Kroos at the start of the week, they've ended the week claiming Van Gaal was never interested. What do they actually know? Van Gaal said on TV he's talked targets with the club and given them a list. If that list aint the same as Moyes' list then what can the papers really claim to know unless they get new briefing off of Woodward?
The issue is that a lot of the targets the media have been pushing seem to have been David Moyes targets and not Van Gaal ones. I don't think the Media have a scoobies who we're in for now, it's a factory reset at United.
True, the press are a bit clueless right now I think, that's why we're being linked to so many different players everyday. I don't think they have been briefed on LVG's targets just yet and the list they're working off is the one left by Moyes. I'm just waiting for Ogden or Ducker, because they seem to be the closest to the club at the moment.
How to make click revenue from the team with the most supporters on the planet.
Strootman would walk to OT, his wages would probably be doubled. A lot of nonsense in the media currently.
No Kroos, Fabregas or Strootman
I'm hoping Van Gaal already has targets in mind, or maybe the WC will spring a surprise that nobody was expecting ala Ozil in '10
I'm hoping Van Gaal already has targets in mind, or maybe the WC will spring a surprise that nobody was expecting ala Ozil in '10
To be honest the press probably never even knew who Moyes target were either, it's all guess work and bullshite at the best of times. The only thing we seem to know is we put a bid in for Shaw. that's it.
Van Gaal is a world class manager, he has already stated that he's told the club who he wants and who he doesn't, this seems pretty decisive to me. Let's trust his judgement and wait and see.
The Caf is at it's most entertaining at this time of year, but some of the meltdown's on here are pathetic.
This. And me being old school means in the past couple of weeks my buying of print newspapers has doubled just in order to read the latest on United.
News regarding us sells so they'll make it up if they have to.
This Kroos business has done me in. I got more excited than is healthy for a 50yo man
We get linked and unlinked with players every half hour it seems. Serious slow news days and the journos are just throwing any name there is out there of any half decent player. They are bigger muppets than us.
It's not a normal summer though. The World Cup puts a lot of pressure on the club to do business early, unless of course we're after players that aren't involved in the World Cup. Then you have to question the quality of said players in the first place.
The other issue being that Woody, Moyes had bigged up the moves we were going to be making this Summer. So naturally everyones excited and now highly deflated with recent developments. I've been here 8 years and this was the first Window that I really believed we were going to spend big. We have to spend big to plug the gaps in our squad, buying cheap alternatives isn't what we need, we have to go for quality over quantity.
I'm starting to think that the only signing we'll make pre World Cup will be Shaw and that will be it.
If we dont hear on that this weekend, then i dont see that deal being announced until after the world cup either.
It looks like Van Gaal has tore up the targets list that Woodward had been working on. Whether thats good news or not remains to be seen but idea we will get business done pre World Cup is now a pipe dream.
Do you? I'm sure there are quite a few top players not playing in the world cup. Not every country can qualify. What's the most expensive player in the history of football ever up to this summer?
Im actually laughing to myself at this point. In the last day or so it would seem our 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice CM have said thanks but no thanks.
At this point its almost a wind up. I imagine Strootman going to Liverpool for 15m and saying he believes in their project...
Posing for Vogue.
But that's one example, don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are a few top quality players not at the world cup. But the majority of them are.
You need to chill out. Strootman was never a target, not with his injury anyway. Roma would've sold him if we bid €40m but we didn't and now they're trying to look good to their fans.
I'm not one for getting overly worried about signings as I know most of what is said is bullshit and there's little point worrying over it. My only problem is if Utd have giving billy big bollocks with our transfer plans and we end up with no major improvements. It puts a lot of pressure on us to start next season well.
Don't hinge your hopes on every tweet or article that's written. It's the 23rd May, we've got plenty of time and no one knows who the hell is on LvG's list. It's just a load of made up bollocks at the minute.
Although, after looking at Il Tempo's website, this comment was sad to see from Benatia:
Ibrahimovic, Eriksen, Subotic, Hamsik, Mkhitaryan, Lewandowski, Arda Turan, Alaba. That's just a few off the top of my head, of players who play for countries who aren't there. Not including Bale. They'd all get games at United.
There are plenty of players not at the World Cup who's quality can't really be questioned. It was a silly statement to make. If we really wanted to only sign players not involved at the World Cup (we won't) we could still strengthen the squad.
in that article it says "Various reports suggest United have made contact with Gervinho" but this is possibly the 1st time he's ever been linked with us. I wouldn't take this as gospel but if Strootman doesn't want to come here it will possibly be because we passed the chance to sign him already... maybe
Roma would accept 30 mln, let alone 40, esp seeing as they know Strootman will board the plane the second he sniffs out our potential offer. EPL is of great appeal to Dutch players, they usually do well here and he would have Van Gaal as the manager. Money would be good also and we are much bigger than Roma and have been a much better team for a long time now (you can't draw any conclusions from this travesty of a season).
Jesus fecking Christ, from being linked to the best players we are now linked with the likes of McCarthy and Konoplynake
Benatia will end up partnering Kompany and tripling his wages at the same time. No brainer.Don't hinge your hopes on every tweet or article that's written. It's the 23rd May, we've got plenty of time and no one knows who the hell is on LvG's list. It's just a load of made up bollocks at the minute.
Although, after looking at Il Tempo's website, this comment was sad to see from Benatia:
Didn't you say Kroos was a done deal, definitely happening, and that you had the inside track? You should have been able to forewarn everyone of what was to come.
None of those players are realistic signings though TN. Hamsik is the only one who we could possibly get yet I don't rate him as top class talent and he's an AM anyway. So what you've just done is list a group of players who are no hope signings. Good one.
I didn't say any of them were possible signings, I suggested you were wrong for "questioning the quality" of players not at the World Cup.
I thought he was nailed on, yes. Obviously it has combusted.
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