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SalfordRed1960 said:
I am with you on this.

The issue for most on here is that Woody implied a big signing (the "watch this space" comment) and because the media haven't a clue what is going on we have been teased with the likes of Vidal, D Maria, Cuandrado, and more recently with Rojo, benatia and Blind since the transfer window opened.

I personally think a very big transfer will happen and that will cause everything to fall in place. I would not be surprised if PSG start it all off by selling one or two expensive players, which allows them to get Di Maria, Madrid will then buy Falco for the money and the ball gets rolling. Other teams then have the funds to buy the replacements they want so they can release the players that teams like us want.

If we can't get what we want, or are unwilling to be taken to the cleaners again, then I would take what we have now and not buy for the sake of it. If that happens it is going to be a long, but interesting season.
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Yeah that's what has pissed me off. It has been frustrating I'm not going to lie but the attitude on here is madness.

This Summer we've got a new manager who bossed it at the WC, 2 new players and we have also done really well in pre season.

Yet the comments on here are like we are in the serious dark ages, 20 years without a title and 5 years without top 4 having made 0 transfers and stuck with the same old manager we all hate.
 
He was indeed. Except he was made of glass. Injuries left him a shell and I'm surprised anyone's offering money for him.

Hope he can stay injury free though. I've always hoped that.
 
Offside said:
Yeah that's what has pissed me off. It has been frustrating I'm not going to lie but the attitude on here is madness.

This Summer we've got a new manager who bossed it at the WC, 2 new players and we have also done really well in pre season.

Yet the comments on here are like we are in the serious dark ages, 20 years without a title and 5 years without top 4 having made 0 transfers and stuck with the same old manager we all hate.
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We finished 7th last season. We have lost 5 players and only brought in 2. Every other team has strengthened significantly. We have gotten worse. Of course people are going to be worried and of course people are going to be pissed off.
 
RedBistro said:
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Starting to really find them utter classless dicks.

Carvalho hasn't made a move despite a host of top clubs being interested in him, no doubt their demands have been outrageous and they act almost impossible to deal with to scare teams off. Eric Diers transfer hasn't been smooth either and now they are blocking Rojo aswell.
 
Name Changed said:
We finished 7th last season. We have lost 5 players and only brought in 2. Every other team has strengthened significantly. We have gotten worse. Of course people are going to be worried and of course people are going to be pissed off.
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We got rid of Moyes. We've improved.
 
don't worry, it's still only....May, no June, no July, no early August, no, mid August, no..... just over a day to the season starts.

we have a full two weeks..no need to panic

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SilentWitness said:
He wants more transfer funds and they're not giving him it i think.
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And I think he's not so happy about the proposed Zaha deal. Seems to be pushed more by the club than by him, so for him not to get funds on players he wants, while a player is being brought in that he doesn't really want would piss him off.
 
Offside said:
I don't think this transfer window has been anywhere near as bad as some of the moaning. We've spent £60m on 2 great talents and we've got in a top class manager. We spent £40 million on Mata who can finally bed into the team in his favourite role. Plus there is still 2 weeks left!!

Yes it's not been ideal, farm from it and I have been really frustrated but the moaning on here and other places is horrific. It's not half, or even a quarter as bad as last Summer's shambles.

I think it's been so long since Shaw was signed just the pure frustration of no new news has made some of you go into meltdown paid way to early and wrongly in my opinion.

We should all be buzzing for the new season.

And also, have some bloody patience. It's not ideal having Van Gaal come in late July so this is why we may be taking so long. The scarring of last Summer is fuelling some embarrassing comments ridden with panic in here.
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Good post !

I think whats getting on supporters tits is seeing other teams like madrid , barca and chelsea not waste any time and get the players in that they want .

I cant stress enough how important it is for us to get back into the champions league , and to be honest , I'm clinging on to the hope that having a top manager and not playing in Europe this season will maybe get us top 4 .

Anybody who thinks were better than chelsea and man city with our current squad are seriously deluded and if were being honest here arsenal will take some pegging back and I don't think liverpool without suarez will fold like a pack if cards like a few on the caf have predicted .

As we kick off the season on saturday going in with 3 centre halfs (jones smalling and Evans) with an appalling injury record is nothing sort of crazy . When I look at the midfield options i dread to think what will happen if Herrera gets injured .

I'm not one for wanting the club to blow silly money on players just to please the fans but why all the pussy footing around ? Let's identify the players we need and get them in . Its not rocket science that we need a couple of CBs and a centre mid and a wide man so let's get it sorted .

I keep reading we are one of the biggest clubs in the world but our transfer dealings since 2009 av been terrible . Were have the truly marquee signings been ? . Granted we bought van persie and more recently mata but thats about it really .

Valencia , young , kagawa ect ect wouldn't even get in to madrid or Barcas b teams so let's start getting the big names in . I'm not saying throw money at anybody but a top drawer player would be nice every once in a while rather than penny pinch on mediocre squad players .

If van gaal wants di Maria (hes mentioned him so he must rate him) then let's go out and buy him . The same goes for Vidal and benatia . Let's get rid of the dead wood and address the situation . We will only end up paying it on the last day anyway (ala fellaini) .

I totally trust LVG but a part of me is thinking his ego may be telling him to get us top 4 with what hes got , just to prove a point .
 
NoArroJusBeta said:
Starting to really find them utter classless dicks.

Carvalho hasn't made a move despite a host of top clubs being interested in him, no doubt their demands have been outrageous and they act almost impossible to deal with to scare teams off. Eric Diers transfer hasn't been smooth either and now they are blocking Rojo aswell.
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Yeah what cnuts, how dare they, right?
 
SalfordRed1960 said:
If we can't get what we want, or are unwilling to be taken to the cleaners again ...
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We should be willing to be taken to the cleaners if thats what it takes.
The cost of not making it into the cl again would dwarf any transfer fee.
 
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That annoying Dharmesh Sheth transfer muppet on SSN and his ridiculous dramatisation of everything is annoying the life out of me.

And what is with the actual dimensions and logistics of his fecking bonce. His head has that many sides and angles, there is no known shape that adequately describes it.
 
.Rossi said:
We have got rid of 5 players, signed 2 and nothing has been addressed.

I don't care who are manager is, we are still in the shitter here!

Did I also mention one of our signings took a year to complete and that our other signing is injured?
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I agree, wouldnt say we are in the shitter but I genuinely thought we needed 6 or 7 signings the first team was so poor, and that isnt all down to Moyes significant signs of it the season before champions or not. Van Gaal has so far proven very astute with his system change to accomodate what he has at his disposal cleverly......however we are one injury or serious lack of form from being in trouble at the back and we are still short in central midfield. His change of formation means genuine wide players is not also a matter of urgency but people saying we are not in Europe the target is the champions league....wtf. We have made one brilliant long term signing I think in Shaw and a quality one in Herrera. LVG worked miracles with a pretty average Holland squad...he needs to do similar with us as things stand, as he rightly points out himself our team is lop sided with lots of players for certain positions, its still woefully short in others though
 
Sixpence said:
That annoying Dharmesh Sheth transfer muppet on SSN and his ridiculous dramatisation of everything is annoying the life out of me.

And what is with the actual dimensions and logistics of his fecking bonce. His head has that many sides and angles, there is no known shape that adequately describes it.
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If you're annoyed now, wait until deadline day. Sky and the new HQ will be going nuts.
 
Name Changed said:
We finished 7th last season. We have lost 5 players and only brought in 2. Every other team has strengthened significantly. We have gotten worse. Of course people are going to be worried and of course people are going to be pissed off.
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I'm as frustrated about the lack of quality additions as much as the next man, but this post is a little off the mark I think.

"lost 5 players". Evra - Upgraded through Shaw. Ferdinand - hardly played last year and wouldn't have the pace to play in this system this year. Vidic - Big loss but still time to replace him. Buttner - Rubbish. Rather play Reece James. The others? Bebe, Macheda, etc? Hardly a loss. In fact hopefully the likes of Fellaini, Anderson and possibly Hernandez can be moved on too.

"Only brought in 2" - There's no Europe this year, so we'll have 10-15 games less than usual. Squad doesn't need to be as huge. The two we have brought in both improve our first XI immediately. We have never been lacking squad numbers. So quality over quantity is important. Also worth remembering that we brought Mata in, in January without moving anyone else on.

Moyes has gone and Van Gaal has come in. This is the biggest single strengthening factor of any team in the league. Our squad isn't great but nearly all our players underperformed woefully last season. If Van Gaal gets a 10-20% improvement out of everyone, the difference come May will be huge. We still have several players who are either top class, serial league winners or full of potential.

A lot of our young players are being criminally under rated on here. Two years ago Smalling and Jones was being touted as the future of not only our defence but the England defence too. Neither has had a consistent run of games together. Expect that to change this season. Both have enormous potential and both have already shown in patches that they are top quality defenders. On form Evans is one of the best defenders in the league. Another who is criminally under rated. If it wasn't for injury concerns, I would be very happy to have Jones, Smalling and Evans as our first choice three. All are good on the ball, relatively quick and natural defenders.

Cleverly is one young player who has not developed as I hoped. But Welbeck is a player I have so much time for. His close control, teamwork and pace are top drawer. I think we look a much better team with him in the side. His pace alone changes the dimension of our attack. He's never had a run in his favoured position. For me, this season would see him cement himself as first choice striker partnered with either Rooney or RVP. Wilson as the 4th choice striker.

It's a cliché to say it but I have to say it anyway. Fletcher's return to form is like a new signing. He's not the top tier level we need but he looks so much better with a full pre-season under his belt and has an awful lot to offer. He's just going to get stronger and stronger over the coming months I feel. And one thing we should all know about Darren Fletcher is to never underestimate his fortitude or ability to triumph under pressure. He took more abuse as a young player at United than I have seen before, it was shameful. He went from absolute zero, to cult hero in about 3 seasons.

With the change in formation, we are not going to be reliant on productivity from wide areas to create the bulk of our goals. Which is just as well because our wingers are shite. It's amazing Moyes put so much emphasis and pressure on the weakest area of our squad. So again, we have improved hugely here, potentially anyway, by playing to our strengths.

We are going to be so much more competitive this year than we were last. I see our rivals being very worried about us. Arsenal have done well to sign Sanchez, but running and creativity from deep was never a problem for them. They still haven't addressed their two biggest weaknesses, in CDM and CF. Chelsea have upgraded very well and I see them as clear favourites. Liverpool have CL distractions with a squad that isn't CL experienced. The loss of Suarez only makes them less dangerous. Their other additions could be good, could be bad. They spread the money quite thinly and in some cases speculatively. And Man City have brought in Fernando, who won't start and is only a slightly better version of Garcia and Mangala who was absurdly overpriced and can't get in the France team ahead of Sahko.
 
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