a few posts up there's a link to a video of him at the valencia game. Basically rehashes everything said all summer. with no particulars.
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I've reached a point where I don't care who we sign, I just want all the transfers done so that we can just focus on the new season
Same here. It's all getting really tiring.
To leave returning back to the CL up to LVG alone, without bringing in obvious, much-needed reinforcements would be criminally bad management by Woodward & Co. The Glazers might stick by him but you can bet he won't be able to go to any more United home games without getting completely abused.
He doesn't seem like a stupid guy but maybe he's trying to be too smart for his own good
He doesn't seem like a stupid guy but maybe he's trying to be too smart for his own good
Yep me also as much as we could do with a couple of top additions this window has really dragged out. Roll on Saturday.
Why are we now having random twitter conversations posted here? Add to that most of the twitter accounts whose tweets are posted are not people with proven track record. Desperation much? 
So LVG wants players but the club are saying no?
You honestly think LVG would meekly stand by and let that happen. Not to mention the fact that he has said he wanted time to review his squad and then this week has made bids for at least 2 players that we know of.
So you think the CEO should just go out and sign players?
Why are we now having random twitter conversations posted here? Add to that most of the twitter accounts whose tweets are posted are not people with proven track record. Desperation much?
Was going to say. Signed in, and a massive dull conversation from two no marks about nothing interesting!
Why not? This is what all CEOs and DsOF from all other top tier clubs around are doing year after year.
how about - LVG wants players but Woodie doesn't want to pay what selling club wants or Woodie is unable to convince player to come?
Or, perhaps the club we're trying to buy from doesn't want to sell. This concept seems to be forgotten by most posters who think its just a case of plonking huge wads of money on a table and any club will happily sell their player. Doesn't work like that. I think LVG has asked for players from clubs that don't want to sell, like Hummels from Dortmund, or, in the case of Arsenal, don't want to sell to us. What the hell is Woodward supposed to do in that scenario.
We also have to remember that clubs know we are after reinforcements in specific areas and will no doubt have an idea that the club has cash to spend, any club with a player we want will be trying even harder at this point in time to get the best deal possible and some will probably massively over value players because of our need to rebuild.
For starters he should shut up and stop mouthing about being the biggest club, club with biggest resources and dozens of players banging to his door.
Second of all - Im sure that for each position we had 3-4 targets.
Third at all- ask yourself why these other clubs dont want to sell. Maybe the guy is an arrogant prick throwing insulting bids? And yes that happened a few times in his short career as CEO.
Matched Barcas offer for Vermaelen.
If players don't want to sign for a club it's hardly down to the CEO's ability to attract them. Factors like CL football etc are also in play.
Correct. That is why you do your business early.
Because it is a terrible way to run a football club. The manager should identify or at least agree with the players being brought in or shipped out.
There is nothing to argue about with your post.
Really? For what he contribute now in a game I wouldn't pay anywhere near that.
The manager himself has openly explained why this couldn't be done this year.
Every knows we have money to spend. We could hardly have kept the Addidas or Chevrolet deals a secret.
Yes, but LvG would not have been expecting all these injuries, he should have asked us, we would have told him.
If we sell the players they say we are going to sell, then we need to replace some of the squad players. We have to have some versatility in the squad, someone who isn't injured would be nice.
If we don't spend, I hope MUTV never, ever interview Ed Woodward again. I will throw something through the TV if they do.
Funny
A good summary.
This is a difficult question, as I don’t find it interesting to talk about players value (I usually don’t care that much about money spent on players) but I can tell you this: I don’t think Hernandez is worth much for us, especially considering that most probably he will struggle in this new system and we have Wilson waiting to be given a chance. To be honest I don’t rate Chica highly, but the most important thing is that his “value” should not be a deal breaker for Vidal transfer.
We would maybe get 20m€, probably closer to 15m€. As I said, I’m not really bothered, I just want it to happen.
For some reason most of these papers have gone with the Hernandez agent meant 'Vidal swop deal will be clear soon' when I'm sure he meant 'There will be news on Hernandez future soon'.
Indeed. All this 3rd party ownership bollocks just complicate deals. See Mangala to City for example. The selling club ends up losing big time. Question is why do clubs go into such deals in the first place?
Lack of financial strength. This allows them to recruit players easily as well.
Because they probably wouldn't have been able to afford the player otherwise.
I guess. But then those same clubs end up playing hard ball when the player wants to move on to another club. All this transfer lark is right complicated alright.
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We need to stop identifying targets that are unattainable then don't we? This window has been abysmal much like last seasons for exactly the same reasons.
Either that or we start acting like Real and Barça because you can be damned sure if they wanted Hummels, Vidal, Di Maria (well, assuming he was playing somewhere else) then they'd get them.
Indeed. But when you have large number of players with large sell on clauses to third parties you almost entirely write off the potential to make an absolute killing on players when you sell them as most of the money goes elsewhere. For example it seems they'll hand away 40% of whatever they get for Carvalho. So if he's sold for, say, £30m they'll only see £18m of it.
The problem with entering into these sorts of arrangements is that it's very hard to extricate yourself from them. You don't have the money to buy your own players outright and if you decide to move on all of those players and proceed in the future without the help of funds you don't have the financial muscle to attract a similar calibre of player. You end up being reliant on that subsidised ownership model so that the prospect of trying to move to a more self-sufficient model seems pretty daunting unless you're willing to take the risk of a few years of mediocre results.
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