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Anyone else get the inkling we'd rather have Di Maria than Vidal.

Why would we? We don't use any wingers.

Unless LVG thinks he can play next to Herrera or Fletcher, I don't see us buying him, although I think he's a player too good to pass if he's available.
 
Does anyone watch Real Madrid? Di Maria was used in a midfield 3 the majority of last season.
 
Yes, but he played in the Mata role.

Which is probably what he will do this season along with being able to play the Robben role and as a winger in a 4-3-3 formation. Add Blind as our alternative number 6 it seems pretty balanced.
 
I posted yesterday that my optimism didn't seem to be working because we hadn't signed anybody else, so I would do the opposite and say we're not going to sign anybody, so that I'd be proved wrong.

Seems to be working. :D
I use that kind of psychology all the time! Works like a dream for me!
 
Yes, but he played in the Mata role.
No he didn't. Mata plays typical no 10. Di Maria was used mostly on the left of midfield three. He was playing quite deep, making driving runs forward (but usually to the wing), but also contributing in defense. His positioning was not great (it wasn't that bad either), but he has excellent engine and speed so he was chasing literally everything in midfield. Plus, his long passing is very good. He could be doing the same for us.

Di Maria really makes sense, he can play in midfield or as a winger (his natural position). He won't be playing in the hole though, he doesn't have the brain for it IMO.
 
Di Maria only makes sense in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1, but we'd probably need to play our captain out of position. Not likely to happen mind... Probably 4-3-1-2 would be the only way to go:

De Gea
Rafael - Jones - Evans - Shaw
Herrera - Fletcher - Di Maria
Mata
Rooney - RVP​
 
The difference between us going for Caudrado and Barca is that Barca have already sold high profile players in Sanchez and Fabregas and have got Rakitic, Vermearlen and Saurez to name a few. Caudrado is a luxury for them and one they will end up getting whilst we scrape the barrel for whatever player we decide isnt too injured/expensive/old/young its a joke an utter joke.
Problem is if Barca or Real come in for the same players we are on a hiding to nothing, it is the same for the other English clubs as well. Especially spanish speakers.
 
Problem is if Barca or Real come in for the same players we are on a hiding to nothing, it is the same for the other English clubs as well. Especially spanish speakers.
So then when we say we are the biggest club in the world what we really mean is the club with the most sponsors.
 
Di Maria only makes sense in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1, but we'd probably need to play our captain out of position. Not likely to happen mind... Probably 4-3-1-2 would be the only way to go:

De Gea
Rafael - Jones - Evans - Shaw
Herrera - Fletcher - Di Maria
Mata
Rooney - RVP​
I remember reading somewhere, that LvG's 433 looks exactly like what you have shown there. Its probably the best way to line up if we get Di Maria. Looks fantastic to me :drool:
 
The signing of Vidal and Di Maria does make 4-3-3 very possible but we are then back in the same Rooney/RVP/Mata conundrum we've had for the last 7 months.
 
So then when we say we are the biggest club in the world what we really mean is the club with the most sponsors.

There's a romantic obsession with Real and Barca for latin-based players. To us United fans, we have that expression as it relates to our club, and for that reason we cannot fathom anyone going elsewhere. It's the same for many continental players and the big Spanish two.

The White or the claret/blue are iconic colours to wear. The red? not so much.
 
What if you get Vidal? He'll take fletcher's spot.
Yes, pretty much. I don't think there is any chance we get both though.

The signing of Vidal and Di Maria does make 4-3-3 very possible but we are then back in the same Rooney/RVP/Mata conundrum we've had for the last 7 months.
No, I think there will be room for all three to play. Its probably Januzaj who will lose out.
 
Di Maria only makes sense in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1, but we'd probably need to play our captain out of position. Not likely to happen mind... Probably 4-3-1-2 would be the only way to go:

De Gea
Rafael - Jones - Evans - Shaw
Herrera - Fletcher - Di Maria
Mata
Rooney - RVP​
That looks lovely. Januzaj/Kagawa and Welbeck could still get plenty of games in that system too.
 
They'd probably line up like in the post quoted above yours.

There is no way LVG is going to specifically reference Di Maria as one of the best wide players in the world then proceed to play him in a narrow system. If he's buying him, its with intention of playing him wide.
 
There is no way LVG is going to specifically reference Di Maria as one of the best wide players in the world then proceed to play him in a narrow system. If he's buying him, its with intention of playing him wide.
We'll see what he does, if we get him.
 
There is no way LVG is going to specifically reference Di Maria as one of the best wide players in the world then proceed to play him in a narrow system. If he's buying him, its with intention of playing him wide.
He was arguably Madrids player last season and that was playing in a midfield three, not as a winger. Although he has always been known as a good winger, I don't think he'd ever been considered a world beater... he was very inconsistent like many other wingers.

If we bought him and played him in a midfield 3 trying to replicate his form last year, I for one would not be disappointed.

Unfortunately I watched Argentina the least at the world cup due to work patterns; where did Di Maria play in their system? From what I gathered, he had a poor tournament.
 
He was arguably Madrids player last season and that was playing in a midfield three, not as a winger. Although he has always been known as a good winger, I don't think he'd ever been considered a world beater... he was very inconsistent like many other wingers.

If we bought him and played him in a midfield 3 trying to replicate his form last year, I for one would not be disappointed.

Unfortunately I watched Argentina the least at the world cup due to work patterns; where did Di Maria play in their system? From what I gathered, he had a poor tournament.

He actually played at the point of the 3 for Madrid and drifted left a lot of the time. Done very well. All im saying is LVG isn't going to reference him as a world class winger then play him in a midfield 3. If he's buying him, its with a view to a longer term 4-3-3. Yes he can play there but he is better as a winger.

I would still rather Vidal if im being honest.
 
There is no way LVG is going to specifically reference Di Maria as one of the best wide players in the world then proceed to play him in a narrow system. If he's buying him, its with intention of playing him wide.

He was brilliant on the left of a midfield three last season, if we get him I think LVG would play him there. LVG surely wants to play 4-3-3 in the future, but there is also very little chance he wants to drop one of RVP/Rooney if both are fit and he is known to hate needing to play top players out of position. Only solution in case we sign Di Maria? See above.
 
He was arguably Madrids player last season and that was playing in a midfield three, not as a winger. Although he has always been known as a good winger, I don't think he'd ever been considered a world beater... he was very inconsistent like many other wingers.

If we bought him and played him in a midfield 3 trying to replicate his form last year, I for one would not be disappointed.

Unfortunately I watched Argentina the least at the world cup due to work patterns; where did Di Maria play in their system? From what I gathered, he had a poor tournament.
No I read that he was one of their best performers in the WC and they badly missed him when he was injured. I agree with the rest of your post.
 
LVG has no issue in converting wingers like Young and Valencia into wing backs. I know Di Maria is a different kettle of fish talent wise but suddenly changing formation after a succesful pre-season just to accommodate a marquee signing doesn't sound like something LVG would do. Either LVG will mould him into a wing back to fit a formation that accommodates the majority of the squad or we're not actually interested in signing him. I suspect its the latter!
 
Last page was more or less a discussion about Di Maria the player, when there's a fecking thread on Di Maria.

Leave this sanctuary.
 
LVG has no issue in converting wingers like Young and Valencia into wing backs. I know Di Maria is a different kettle of fish talent wise but suddenly changing formation after a succesful pre-season just to accommodate a marquee signing doesn't sound like something LVG would do. Either LVG will mould him into a wing back to fit a formation that accommodates the majority of the squad or we're not actually interested in signing him. I suspect its the latter!

Except for the fact he specifically said he doesn't have world class wingers like Ronaldo or Di Maria so he cannot play he preferred system 4-3-3.
He also specifically said United already know how to play 4-3-3 so that is why they are learning 5-3-2 as that is what we will start the season with, doesn't exactly mean we wont switch to 4-3-3 at some point.
 
Except for the fact he specifically said he doesn't have world class wingers like Ronaldo or Di Maria so he cannot play he preferred system 4-3-3.
He also specifically said United already know how to play 4-3-3 so that is why they are learning 5-3-2 as that is what we will start the season with, doesn't exactly mean we wont switch to 4-3-3 at some point.
Ok but 4-3-3 with a winger either side of a striker means Rooney out of position and Mata doesn't play. So we piss off our good players to accommodate a marquee signing.
 
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