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Ogden is on TalkSport right now. Says that Cleverly is likely to stay. Hernandez, Nani, Kagawa are the ones who are under scrutiny in terms of leaving.

Anything else?
 
Ogden is on TalkSport right now. Says that Cleverly is likely to stay. Hernandez, Nani, Kagawa are the ones who are under scrutiny in terms of leaving.

Chuck in Anderson and Fellaini back home, plus perhaps a couple of the older fringe players (Amos, Vermijl, Petrucci) and I think that'll be the departures list.
 
Ogden is on TalkSport right now. Says that Cleverly is likely to stay. Hernandez, Nani, Kagawa are the ones who are under scrutiny in terms of leaving.
Most people who have a brain in their head who have paid even a passing interest in the tour could have told you that. The Brit journos are struggling so badly for Utd related info these days. Its hilarious.
 
can just imagine us, getting home on Wednesday, and Van Gaal and Woodward sitting in a little office saying "right, who shall we try and buy...."
 
This place would collectively lose its shit if we didn't sign Vidal and then sold Chich to Juve for a knockdown fee.

It'd be utter mayhem if we get held to ransom by them on their player, yet give them Evra, Nani and Hernandez for a pack of sweets
 
can just imagine us, getting home on Wednesday, and Van Gaal and Woodward sitting in a little office saying "right, who shall we try and buy...."
I imagine it will more like "right we better book those flights and arrange those medicals"
 
the idea that we have deals nicely in place, but we're just holding everyone's careers up for a few weeks first without anything leaking is pretty hard to believe.
But let's hope it's the case.
 
Ogden is on TalkSport right now. Says that Cleverly is likely to stay. Hernandez, Nani, Kagawa are the ones who are under scrutiny in terms of leaving.
Mmm interesting !
Hernandez and nani + money for Vidal
Kagawa + money for hummells .

Its on !
 
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I only caught the start of it as had to head out but he also said Young has been the major success of the tour playing left wing back and that Herrera and Fletcher have been great in the middle. He pretty much said that in an article he wrote the other day though.
 
I only caught the start of it as had to head out but he also said Young has been the major success of the tour playing left wing back and that Herrera and Fletcher have been great in the middle. He pretty much said that in an article he wrote the other day though.

Yup, it seems like all the journalists get the same briefing and they don't seem to get it often. Good way to run a club, a bit boring for the fans.
 
Ogden is on TalkSport right now. Says that Cleverly is likely to stay. Hernandez, Nani, Kagawa are the ones who are under scrutiny in terms of leaving.

Highly doubt it he's right there. I'd say:

Cleverley likely to leave.
Hernandez and Nani - Mind already made up and they're gone.
Kagawa - Staying, I think he's got plans to use him in midfield.
 
Highly doubt it he's right there. I'd say:

Cleverley likely to leave.
Hernandez and Nani - Mind already made up and they're gone.
Kagawa - Staying, I think he's got plans to use him in midfield.
That is what I would prefer but who knows.
 
Highly doubt it he's right there. I'd say:

Cleverley likely to leave.
Hernandez and Nani - Mind already made up and they're gone.
Kagawa - Staying, I think he's got plans to use him in midfield.

I think Ogden is right. I believe the Carrick injury saved Cleverley, if we sell him then we need to buy two midfielders, don't us doing that. On Kagawa, didn't LVG say that we have too many no. 10's? Kagawa can't really play as a wing-back and I don't think he's a CM.
 
Cleverley isn't likely to leave at all. He's got minutes on the tour and even captained us, we also have little to no resources in midfield.
 
Highly doubt it he's right there. I'd say:

Cleverley likely to leave.
Hernandez and Nani - Mind already made up and they're gone.
Kagawa - Staying, I think he's got plans to use him in midfield.

I disagree with that and think Kagawa might go. Time will tell anyway. Going to be an interesting month ahead.
 
Cleverley isn't likely to leave at all. He's got minutes on the tour and even captained us, we also have little to no resources in midfield.

Getting minutes on this tour is equal to probation for some.
 
I think Ogden is right. I believe the Carrick injury saved Cleverley, if we sell him then we need to buy two midfielders, don't us doing that. On Kagawa, didn't LVG say that we have too many no. 10's? Kagawa can't really play as a wing-back and I don't think he's a CM.
I think Van Gaal is a huge fan of Kagawa's, but told him he won't be first choice. I'm sure he'd love to keep him, but Kagawa would probably like to be starter somewhere rather then just back up to Mata here. We'll see, but his situation is different from the others, as I do think Van Gaal would prefer it if he stayed.
 
I think Van Gaal is a huge fan of Kagawa's, but told him he won't be first choice. I'm sure he'd love to keep him, but Kagawa would probably like to be starter somewhere rather then just back up to Mata here. We'll see, but his situation is different from the others, as I do think Van Gaal would prefer it if he stayed.

If we play 4-3-3 then I can see us having a role for Kagawa but without CL I don't see him getting much playing time at all. I reckon if we get a good fee for him then he's gone.
 
Getting minutes on this tour is equal to probation for some.
He's been one of the less impressive of the players who have question marks around their future. I think he'll be saved by the lack of options in midfield while although Kagawa has done pretty well it seems all of the English press have been briefed that he could go. It makes more sense to get rid of someone when you have Mata and Januzaj then selling someone, admittedly a much inferior player, when the other options are a new signing getting used to the league, someone resurrecting their career after 3 years of illness, an injured Carrick and fecking Fellaini.
 
The way Kagawa has performed - he should stay. In fact - we should keep Chicharito and Kagawa - because both appear to be willing to make an effort.

Nani is another matter. And I can't see Fellaini fitting into LvG's system. And if those 2 leave - and possibly Zaha - that is more than enough.
 
Cleverley isn't likely to leave at all. He's got minutes on the tour and even captained us, we also have little to no resources in midfield.

Think it depends if we bring in 2 midfielders. Carrick, Ander Herrera, Fletcher, + 2 midfielders would be more than enough for this season. I could see it.
 


Antonio Luna has left Aston Villa after just one season in England. He's joined Verona on loan with an option to buy. Still remember Villa's away win at Arsenal last season, when Luna scored and impressed. Must have been a quite the downhill since then for him.
 
The way Kagawa has performed - he should stay. In fact - we should keep Chicharito and Kagawa - because both appear to be willing to make an effort.

Nani is another matter. And I can't see Fellaini fitting into LvG's system. And if those 2 leave - and possibly Zaha - that is more than enough.
Totally agree, they should definitely be kept. If we aren't going to replace them with better players then I don't see the pint in getting rid. The only players if like to see leave is Fellaini, Anderson and possibly Cleverley but only if t least one top class CM is brought in. Otherwise Clev will be decent squad player.
Too many players being linked with moves away and not enough being linked as replacements
 
if we're playing 2 strikers each week, the idea of selling Hernandez for sub £10m seems mad.

VP and Rooney are unlikely to play all the games, Welbeck normally gets a knock or 2, so he'd be ideal as a 4th man
 
Totally agree, they should definitely be kept. If we aren't going to replace them with better players then I don't see the pint in getting rid. The only players if like to see leave is Fellaini, Anderson and possibly Cleverley but only if t least one top class CM is brought in. Otherwise Clev will be decent squad player.
Too many players being linked with moves away and not enough being linked as replacements

But like LVG said, some players, like those two will have limited first team football. It's not that he's deciding they're not good enough but simply that we have better options and them staying doesn't really benefit us.
 
If Hernandez and Kagawa stayed I'm not sure Januzaj would ever get a game. If we got decent offers I'd sell both.
 
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