I love Hernandez but this is absolute bullshit. Jesus.
It's not. If he was played regularly he'd be on the level of strikers that are just below Aguero and RvP.
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It's not. If he was played regularly he'd be on the level of strikers that are just below Aguero and RvP.
Luke Shaw 19 years old. - 27m rising to 29m - "feck me Manchester United inflating the market, buying young English players for way too much".
Romelu Lukaku 20 years old - 28m - "Good signing for Everton that!".
Romelu Lukaku 20 years old - 28m - "Good signing for Everton that!".
It's pretty clear he hasn't seen him play ever.
Strikers are valued more than forwards in terms of prices.
Ones a LB and the other is a Striker - there's a difference
For what it's worth near 30m for Lukaku the only ones to get a good deal there are Chelsea (but then they did pay a lot for him in the first place), that's whats frustrating about our club - 30m doesn't get you a lot these days, we have to be prepared to spend more..... and we aren't
What the very f'ck.
He's got terrific movement, and is a great finisher, but nowhere near the ilk of those two.
Welbeck has a lot more to his game. Nothing to do with being a Manc. After all, a load of our fans (like me) are from nowhere near Manchester, so don't really care about that anyway!
Wow. Chelsea have made some proper dough this window on selling players.
You're just fecking about, right?
Nope. He'd absolutely be considered on the level of Dzeko, Negredo and the likes.
It's embarrassing how many of our own fans shit on Hernandez and fail to realise how good he is.
It'll be sad to see him leave but at the same time brilliant to see him prove that he's much better than a lot of people on here give him credit for when he's banging in goals as a regular starter for another team.
It'll be sad to see him leave but at the same time brilliant to see him prove that he's much better than a lot of people on here give him credit for when he's banging in goals as a regular starter for another team.
It's almost as if they knew FFP was coming and so prepared in the right way.
Ones a LB and the other is a Striker - there's a difference
For what it's worth near 30m for Lukaku the only ones to get a good deal there are Chelsea (but then they did pay a lot for him in the first place), that's whats frustrating about our club - 30m doesn't get you a lot these days, we have to be prepared to spend more..... and we aren't
No we didn't.
Good singing for Everton to keep the bulk of their team in tact from last season, and Chelsea are making some great profit this summer on players they don't even want.
Using the money we gave them last summer
He has to take his mind off his own clubs transfer dealings this window somehow, doesn't he?
You don't half talk some right bollocks at times. Your like a walking stereotype repeating the same wrong shite that Rawk always spout about us.
Clueless.
If Hernandez started 40 games a season for the likes of us, Chelsea or City he would bag 20 goals easily imo. When he moves on I have no doubt that he will score goals for fun.
They've got Lucas Piazons coming out of their ears. Plenty more money to be made.
There are a lots of jokes flying around, I think we should Waite till transfer window shuts.. If Liverpool manage to sign a top player their so called mediocre signings will look reasonably good, it's a big ask but you never know.He has to take his mind off his own clubs transfer dealings this window somehow, doesn't he?
Chelsea have made a ~£25m profit on 2 players who have played a total of 13 league games for them in De Bruyne and Lukaku. If they wanted to sell Courtois (not that they have any reason to sell him) he'd also fetch a ridiculous fee as well despite not playing a single game for them.
Hernandez is a good goalscorer and he's had some great times for us, but I've never been a huge fan simply because his all around game is so limited. His first touch is very inconsistent too. Just doesn't offer enough to be a starter for United IMO. Could be fantastic for most clubs just below the top tier though. If they hadn't signed Lukaku, I could've seen him excelling at Everton.
Oh, it must be right cause BBC said so.
Fecksake, it was £10m-£12m rising to £18m-£20m. This is kind of like when Utd signed Rooney, he didn't cost them £30m outright, despite what the reports said.
Ones a LB and the other is a Striker - there's a difference
For what it's worth near 30m for Lukaku the only ones to get a good deal there are Chelsea (but then they did pay a lot for him in the first place), that's whats frustrating about our club - 30m doesn't get you a lot these days, we have to be prepared to spend more..... and we aren't
I know these things, I still stand by my sarcastic statement.
Well yeah I mean they could sell a whole bunch of "back up players" that simply sit in the reserves or on loan until someone offers 10 odd million for them. I mean the players we try and offload are generally rubbish now or never hit their potential sitting on the reserves bench or taken on loan and never played. I get the impression Teams actually want Chelseas cast offs.
You're probably right, but I would also venture an educated guess that part of the incentive package to take the fee to 18-20M was triggered by a sale for a profit. This might help explain why Everton have paid 28M. Worst case scenario, Chelsea have made an 8-10M profit.
This is either a) brilliant WUMery or b) insanely misguided.
Hernandez is the most expendable striker of the four we have. Ferguson, Moyes and now LVG have all suggested this to be the case with their team selections.
Everton would have hardly paid 28 million straight cash either.
Negredo and Dzeko are not even on the same class plus there's atleast one class between RVP/Aguero and Dzeko anyway. Negredo would be below.
Hernandez is underrated right now by United fans though. Right now Welbeck i can see argument for Welbeck being weaker than him, but his upside his more plus he is more versatile and compatible with RVP/Rooney so i guess keeping him makes more sense along with being a academy product etc..
You mean strikers are valued more than defenders...
That's being kind, the ball just bounces off him; his first touch is absolutely appalling. As you say he's a good goalscorer, so it is disappointing that his other failings seem not to have been worked on during his time at the club, but this is the same coaching which in recent years has seen Anderson, Nani, Rafael and Cleverley regress, while Jones, Smalling and Welbeck have, at best, stalled. Hopefully that is something which will change in the 'Van Gaal era'.
Not really. He's an excellent poacher and a much more reliable striker then welbeck. Welbeck is pretty good but he's not a good goalscorer, until he scores more then 12 in a season that will continue. Hernandez has twice scored 20 goals in a season, despite always being a squad player and mostly a sub. In his 3 seasons under Fergie, welbeck was only picked ahead of him in the second season (first he was out on loan I think), so you can't say fergie rated him higher.
Well well ..
Yeah, sorry.
Ones a LB and the other is a Striker - there's a difference
For what it's worth near 30m for Lukaku the only ones to get a good deal there are Chelsea (but then they did pay a lot for him in the first place), that's whats frustrating about our club - 30m doesn't get you a lot these days, we have to be prepared to spend more..... and we aren't
To be fair that's conventional wisdom to pay higher for strikers but in modern football, a talented fullback is becoming a rarer commodity than a center forward.
Obviously they are announcing this now because we're announcing a big signing tomorrow so everyone forgets about it
What a crock of shit, it means people will pay a ton of money for a share in the club and the club will recieve nothing, it will simply line the pockets of the owners.....lord almighty. Yet here we are scoffing at an extra couple of million for Vidal....
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