They could play 4-3-3 I guess. A front three of Hazard, Costa, Oscar and behind them Kroos, Matic, Fabergas. That's an excellent team.
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They could play 4-3-3 I guess. A front three of Hazard, Costa, Oscar and behind them Kroos, Matic, Fabergas. That's an excellent team.
I can't I'm not envious of them so far. It will be interesting to see who we sign.
Matic will replace Ramirez in the team.
Not very balanced. Oscar doesn't fit. Wilian and Hazard should be flanking Costa, Fabregas playing the old Lampard role, Ramires running box to box, although he could do with an upgrade, and Matic sitting slightly deeper. Chelsea would do well to take their bit for Oscar and purchase some more pace and goals in the wider roles. A player like Lavezzi would be great for them, competing with the likes of Hazard, Wilian, Schurlle and Salah.
I forgot about him completely, that makes it even better team.
I know it's ridiculous isn't it.
I agree, that's why I said they'll struggle to fit everyone in if they get Kroos. They would be a better balanced team without him, unless Oscar or Hazard are off...
Brilliant business selling mata and luiz for 80 million and buying matic, fabregas, luis and maybe fabregas.
Signing the same player twice is the sort of financial piss-take only PSG would try.
Yep, Chelsea have managed to get over top dollar for players Jose didnt even like to use while it looks like they've doing very well on prices for players coming in
Can't forget De Bruyne they got 18M for him despite playing only 3 competitive games for them. But the Luiz business has been one of the best sales in a while how they got 50M for him is beyond me.
I don't think buying Fabregas twice is great business.
For the first time I let myself believe that we would sign top quality players. Now, I don't think it’s going to happen. As usual we have been linked with dozens of players, as usual other teams are starting to sign them, it happens far too often for it to be a coincidence.
I’m not blaming Woodward, it was happening long before he arrived, however, while its good that the club aren’t being held to ransom by greedy agents, we have to realise that we don’t have the pulling power we once had, we don’t have Champions League football (Still find that hard to believe) we don’t have the stability of a long term manager and the time of players playing for the love of the game instead of money is long gone. Football has changed so much over the last 5-10 years, maybe it’s about time we showed the World just how big we are.
Saying that, maybe van Gaal is looking to sign promising young talent, maybe he sees the squad as being good enough, who knows. What I do know however is that van Gaal has an ability to get the best out of any player, and for me that is better than any signing we could make.
The truth is, no one outside the Club knows what’s going on, sometimes you have to trust what you can’t see, and refuse to get drawn in by those who think they know the in and outs of the club, when in truth they are just playing a guessing game like the rest of us.
I’m not blaming Woodward, it was happening long before he arrived, however, while its good that the club aren’t being held to ransom by greedy agents, we have to realise that we don’t have the pulling power we once had, we don’t have Champions League football (Still find that hard to believe) we don’t have the stability of a long term manager and the time of players playing for the love of the game instead of money is long gone. Football has changed so much over the last 5-10 years, maybe it’s about time we showed the World just how big we are.
Saying that, maybe van Gaal is looking to sign promising young talent, maybe he sees the squad as being good enough, who knows. What I do know however is that van Gaal has an ability to get the best out of any player, and for me that is better than any signing we could make.
The truth is, no one outside the Club knows what’s going on, sometimes you have to trust what you can’t see, and refuse to get drawn in by those who think they know the in and outs of the club, when in truth they are just playing a guessing game like the rest of us.
Do Chelsea have a DoF?
Chelsea spotted the hole in FFP and stock piled tons of players, put them out on loan, and then sold at peak rate. Watch them sell Cech for an astronomical fee next.
Doesnt matter what rules UEFA put in place, there will always be a way around it. Chelsea have by far and away the strongest first 11 in the league now and if the Glazers think we can compete with that by bringing in 2nd tier players then they can look forward to us becoming the new Arsenal.
LVG may be a genius and i cant wait to see how he sets us up but i cant see him getting anything more than a top 4 place. The fact that many Utd fans are happy with that shows you just what the Glazers, and laterally Moyes, have done to our expectations.
We are fecking Manchester United. Time to start acting like it.
Doesnt matter what rules UEFA put in place, there will always be a way around it. Chelsea have by far and away the strongest first 11 in the league now and if the Glazers think we can compete with that by bringing in 2nd tier players then they can look forward to us becoming the new Arsenal.
LVG may be a genius and i cant wait to see how he sets us up but i cant see him getting anything more than a top 4 place. The fact that many Utd fans are happy with that shows you just what the Glazers, and laterally Moyes, have done to our expectations.
We are fecking Manchester United. Time to start acting like it.
Absolutely zero chance Mourinho would play Oscar, Fabregas and Kroos in the same side. We're talking about one of the most defensive coaches in top level football. No chance.
Kroos hasn't joined them. And if he had a choice he'd go to Madrid.
And this is Jose. He is not going to line up with Kroos and Fabregas in midfield alongside Matic. People really think they'd walk the league with that midfield. I remember in 2006 when they signed Ballack people said Ballack, Essien and Lampard they walking the league. They were supposed to walk the league last year when Jose arrived.
It would be a very slow midfield. If they got a Vidal alongside Matic and Fabregas then I would understand why people would say they'd walk the league.
And this is Jose. He is not going to line up with Kroos and Fabregas in midfield alongside Matic. People really think they'd walk the league with that midfield. I remember in 2006 when they signed Ballack people said Ballack, Essien and Lampard they walking the league. They were supposed to walk the league last year when Jose arrived.
It would be a very slow midfield. If they got a Vidal alongside Matic and Fabregas then I would understand why people would say they'd walk the league.
That is the harsh truth. You can win and perform in a odd big game here and there with set-ups and tactics, however you need quality to perform in the league and cups over the course of the season. LvG won't be able to work any miracles without quality additions in our midfield and on the wings. The new forum mantra, that we'll be alright because we have LvG now, is total nonsense. Posters overcompensating for their negativity the entire last season.
There is no reason to panic as of now, though we definitely need to make additions as soon as the world cup is over. Cannot afford to dick around till the end of August and then pay 30m to get Alex Song at the last minute.
I think we should keep Cleverley and see how he gets on under Van Gaal. I think his form might pick up.
No doubt he will improve us - but not make us title winners again without quality additions. The point im making why should we settle for top 4? It seems to me like a lot of people have that in their mind. We should NEVER settle for that. We dont have any divine right to win every season but we can rest easy knowing that we go into every season challenging for the top prize. Without some quality being added, we just wont be able to mount a serious challenge - even with LVG. People will make the point about him winning the Dutch League with AZ against all the odds - he wasnt facing Fabregas, Costa, Hazard, Silva, Toure, Suarez et al.
As for not panicking - i agree, however, we already are seeing signs that were there last summer and they shouldnt be ignored. Woodward is a fecking weapon.
Agree, I'd sell Fletcher or Fellaini before Cleverley.
Cleverley and Smalling aren't going anywhere.
Luiz was a crazy price paid by PSG who are desperate for CL success , domestic league virtually guaranteed with only real rivals Monaco. Can see PSG having many problems with FFP.
Chelsea haven't signed Kroos yet, all very well signing loads of expensive players , how do you fit them in a team that is managed by a defensive minded coach who plays on the break, Mourinho knows he has to win something next season, even more pressure than LvG, sense a lot of unhappy players not getting game time
I agree. I feel Fletcher's condition has hampered and Fellaini doesn't suit United or Van Gaal.
Herr Hummels has said he is not thinking about a move to us at the moment and he won't likely think about it this summer.
It may be something that would appeal to him in the future reported by the Telegraph.
It may be something that would appeal to him in the future reported by the Telegraph.
Abramovich interfering again possibly? Kroos would be overkill unless they sell two players which is unlikely to happen.
Spot on. When people are speculating on what Chelsea's most used eleven will be, they really aren't looking at it from Mourinho's perspective.
Personally, I'm not worried in the slightest about Chelsea signing Kroos. I expect Fabregas to fulfill the deep-lying playmaker role, just as he did at Arsenal, but with added protection alongside a box-to-box midfielder in Ramires and a ball-winner in Matic. Fabregas smacks of an Abramovich signing as it is and if Mourinho were to make another midfield acquisition, it would have to be someone defensively astute, which Kroos really isn't. It would be an unnecessary signing, as they have Fab for the deep playmaker and Oscar as the advanced creator went they want a more attacking line-up.
It makes sense for him to have another season at Dortmund. I know the resident Dortmund fans will say that he'll be there for the foreseeable future, but we've got a much better chance of signing him after a good season under van gaal. It does however show that the talk of all our targets wanting to join us this summer was bollocks. I think we seriously underestimated how much of a factor champions league football is.
Linked to Perisic, Cerci, Caulker and Rafa Silva from Braga - Arruda is a fan going by his thread on him.
Also trying to tie up Barry and still interested in Lukaku.I think Abramovich was not at all happy the way Chelsea played last season, same reason he fell out with Mourinho last time around, and they didn't win anything last season, especially when winning the CL is not even good enough to keep your job. Mourinho under a lot of pressure. Is it because they did well against the top teams playing defensively but couldn't open up the lower teams as lack of invention (after selling Mata). Maybe he will play two types of teams, one for the big boys and one for the small fry, and they cannot be as fortunate as they were last season with their defence suffering very few injuries ie having a settled back 4. This is what we need - a settled back 4.
Linked to Perisic, Cerci, Caulker and Rafa Silva from Braga - Arruda is a fan going by his thread on him.
Perisic would be a great buy for you guys.
They all would.
Perisic is a class player.
Even everton who dont sign players are signing players. Where is woody?
Good point, it's not a secret Abramovich has always wanted Guardiola, even last summer Klopp did say a couple of English clubs wanted him and I'm sure Chelsea was one of them both managers who play an attractive brand of football.
Everton seem to be aiming for the right mix of people to stay in contention for top 4, no doubt.
Probably because they don't have dithering Dave anymore.
The problem is that we have started "acting like it far too late." I think we're a lot more likely to spend in line with the market now. We do pay and offer huge wages, some of the biggest in Europe. The problem, and whether you blame the Glazers for this is secondary, is that we seemed to 'pull out' of deals and look for value every Summer.
Even throughout our successful years, we weren't spending in line with the likes of Madrid and Barcelona. Our transfer record stood still for 5 years, and whole host of £30 million plus signings have been conducted all across Europe, even by teams not in the Champions League. Moyes has taken charge, we predictably falter, and only then do we look like spending the kind of money a club of our stature should be spending. Mata was that kind of buy. Of course, this is why others and I were so livid with transfer activity last Summer. We were in a good position yet refused, or failed, to do business like we should have. Right now, it is more difficult, primarily due to the indecision that surrounds us and the lack of Europe. Really, only massive money can allow us to purchase the kind of player we want now. And I do think we want to work that way this Summer, the major irritant is that we should have been doing it sooner, not in vain.
You're ruining this thread with shit. Piss off.
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