If he's who LVG wants, then so be it. 100% behind the Tulip. He does love himself a left footed, ball playing CB in fairness to him.
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Jonny Evans says hi!
If it's a choice, I'd genuinely prefer Ron Vlaar.
Vermaelen had one good season. His first one with Arsenal. He was very very good that year.
Jonny's right footed
Right footed & he's always said he prefers playing on the right side.
Agreed. It's one from leftfield but on reflection it wouldn't surprise me if he was someone of interest to van Gaal.
Yeah I had a mindfart but he's quite ambidextrous tbf.
I don't recall ever having seen him play on the right side
If by 'very good' you mean had 'some seasons being a defensive liability for Arsenal before being kicked to the wayside' then I agree.
Never said he plays there, although he did when Vidic was injured and Rio moved to the left, he just says he prefers it as it's his natural side and easier for him to bring the ball out on his right foot.
Sir Alex played him on the right hand side and had Rio on the left for a lot of the 11-12 season.
I'm certain it was something people said made our back line weaker at times as the majority of goals conceded came from Ferdinand and Evra's side.
Yeah, in the same seasons Koscielny was even worse and made some absolute blunders. Now they are talking about him being one of the best CBs in the world. Like I said, wouldn't love the move but think he could be a great player under LVG
Well no, because when they bought Koscielny into the team they improved defensively. Vermaelen's never been any good.
Ahh fair enough then.
People will need to come to expect LVG to go for signings like this quite a lot. Its all about the system and the best fit for his style may not always be the most obvious individuals that come to mind. The boss knows what he's doing. Let him at it. He's not going to be splashing the cash on a load of world stars IMO.
Yeah, he was so bad, he is still the Arsenal captain after RvP left. Koscielny had some major blunders ask any Arsenal fan. Only reason why Mertesacker/Koscielny is their CB partnership is because they function better, individually it definitely would be Vermaelen/Koscielny. But you keep on just remembering the mistakes of Vermaelen and cry that we won't get a world class CB
Mertesacker is a better CB than Vermaelen. Vermaelen makes individual errors as well as Mertesacker and Koscielny being a better combination.
He's average. He can a play a bit, he just isn't that good a defender.
If the boss thinks Vermaelen will suit the system, then fair enough. I just think Vermaelen isn't a very good player. I have always said you don't need 11 world class players to have a world class team, so I should trust van Gaal with whatever player he brings in.
Vermaelen had a brilliant first season with Arsenal, but his partnership with Koscielny just never clicked and he had too many injury troubles.. Koscielny was actually terrible in his 1st season, so many blunders and he still makes them but he's a better compliment for Mertersacker than Vermaelen..
Theres one thing thinking that Vermaelen is a decent player, theres another calling him a world class CB. Are you on a different planet?
And I don't care if he's Arsenal captain or not, he doesn't get into their team.
I just disagree with that and I've seen Mertesacker since his Werder Bremen days. He got found out at the end of this season too and with him aging, he will only become worse. But I definitely understand the opinion. Vermaelen made a lot of errors but their whole defence has been a joke to this year. No quality DMs, fullbacks weren't that good either.
No, I wouldn't dare to call him world class because he clearly isn't. But all the reaction suggest so far that most wanted a world class CB (me too, btw) and now are crying because we are in for Vermaelen. I just think that he would be a good deal and in the right system a good defender. Also atleast he'd bring abit of leadership into our defence, something that we totally lack right now.
The only position I could see him occupying is in front of the back four, theres just no sense signing him for anywhere else, and no 'system' is going to hide the fact he's not very good defensively.
Would rather go with De Vrij or Indi over him ffs
Sky Sports are about as reliable as Valencia's left foot nowadays. Thankfully it's not cropping up anywhere else as Vermaelen just isn't good enough. Positionally he's very very poor.
Agreed. Martins Indi seems like a bit of a warrior which would replace that element that we're losing with Vida leaving. Also both are much younger.
Most Arsenal fans I know think Vermaelen is shite. He's a good footballer but nothing more - he's positionally woeful and defensively not remotely good enough for the top level. Mertesacker has his issues - namely a lack of pace and poor ability on the ball. But he's been one of the league' stop defender's for about 18 months and starts ahead of Hummels for Germany. Defensively it's not even questionable - Mertesacker isn't just better, he's absolutely miles ahead.
I don't believe a word Hunter says any more.
It ain't Hunter who's said it.
That's because he's adaptable. He's mainly right footed but has played left side because he's more comfortable there than any of the players he's paired up with. He's more comfortable on the right, though.
He played left-back for Northern Ireland on quite a few occassions be ahse they had no other options and he's more adaptable than anyone else they have.
Right footed, and better on the right, but also better on the left than Vidic, Ferdinand, Smalling, Jones etc.
Two random Dutch men that only caught your eye because van Gaal selected them for Holland, but you don't trust him to know what he's doing if he decides to buy someone else?
Makes sense.
Yes let's buy a guy that can't even get in the Arsenal team. That makes perfect sense.
Just clocked that. Graham's have scarred me.
No tweets today ? Its a slow day I guess . I dont believe vemalin is our first choice, but he may be a back up if we dont get our firdt/seconf choice.
Vermaelen would be a good signing. His problem at Arsenal is that Koscielny and Mertesacker formed a good partnership.
My old man will be happy if it's true anyway. He said last season we should sign him, which I thought was a bit random at the time. Might just get his wish.
My old man will be happy if it's true anyway. He said last season we should sign him, which I thought was a bit random at the time. Might just get his wish.
Van Gaal signs players for specific roles the ability of these players vary but they'll be playing in a system that they are essential in. Similar to how at Liverpool, Dortmund and Athletico their system has each of their players playing to each other's strengths which compensates for any individual weaknesses which is why these systems have been proved to be extremely effective and are the way forward. If van Gaal signs Vermaelen then I imagine he'll have a very specific role for him. And a ball playing left footed centre back is like van Gaal's wet dream (almost as much as he loves pacy tricky wingers!)
Yeah definitely. Wasn't Piers Morgan involved in a phone hacking scandal? I then remember hearing about tabloid journalist masquerading as player's entourage or something to that effect just to get a story. I feel a line has to be drawn between privacy and how much room press has to invade players' lives. Imo, they're just footballers. Not celebrities who should have the media acting like paparazzi where they have to follow them all the time. I could care less if Rooney has a beer in his hand at a concert as long as he's fit and ready to go by game day.
Just tried out a Gioteck GC-2 at a mates it was alright. Very good considering 15 quid and didnt feel particularly cheap or anything.
Why did you post that in Twitter discussion?
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