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Hull Daily Mail: Hull City hope to sign Tom Ince for cut-price £3.5m despite Stoke City interest.
It seems like Tom Ince is forever moving club. He'll be all Jim White talks about for the next 15 years.
Serious question, when will you heal enough that you don't find it necessary to bring up Moyes everytime you see an article or quotes from Van Gaal.
This after you call some poster a joke in another thread, and call for his posts to be replied by a "
" smiley. Jesus wept!United should try for him if he becomes available
Serious answer: when will people stop being so butthurt when people talk about him?
Considering how Van Gaal's statements there are carbon copies of the sort of pragmatic statements the manager we sacked a couple of months ago used to make and get slated for, it's hardly surprising that someone is going to draw comparisons and put the contexts into perspective is it?
Nah we don't need anymore attacking midfielders.
Two top Premier League clubs are after Klaas-Jan Huntelaar. Which ones though? Read more here:
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Tweet or didn't happen.
If Moyes came out with these quotes ("We're not a great team, we're just difficult to beat") this place would have a twenty-page thread chastising him.
Kind of funny.
Often what managers say is seen along with the results. Moyes' comments were often taken out of context but team doing badly made the comments look even more awful. Then also there is point of different personalities. LvG has the personality which immediately commands respect of players and it is not only because he tries fancy formations and stuff, it is the confidence which he oozes which gets transferred to players. That is a key ingredient while working with top players. To me, Moyes is not at all a bad football manager or coach, but he is too much of a nice guy and couldn't make the mental jump from being Everton manager to United manager in the sense of making players believe that they can and will be better than opposition in every game they go into.
They would have a 20 page thread chastising him because he's a shit manager.
Moyes would do it with Spain/Germany and probably not even make it through the group stages.
Arsenal desperately need a fox in the box like him. Giroud is far too inconsistent to hold down that position.
This after you call some poster a joke in another thread, and call for his posts to be replied by a "
You've lost me here.
What's wrong with noting that when a manager has the belief of the dressing room and the confidence and respect of his players, he is able to create an underdog situation because he can critisise and it is seen as rational analysis compared to when a manager is in a position where he does not have the dressing room, the respect and belief of his players he cannot criticise them as it is taken in a way that insults and creates bad feeling as it is perceived to be creating excuses.
LVG is not in a position where he needs to make any excuses, yet, so he can make these sorts of comments.
I haven't even criticised Moyes in anyway, I was looking objectively at the same situation with two different contexts and commenting that it is interesting that while they both say the same thing, one is able to get away with it while the other gets blasted for it.
Yeah it does say a lot about Moyes. He always came across as someone who didn't know what he was doing, the problem for him was that the results showed it.
Still quiet on the United rumours I see?
To add to what I said above... This is what I was referring to, nahealai saying exactly the same thing.
How do you post a tweet on here?
Edit: Never mind, the same as in everywhere.
Edit: Never mind, the same as in everywhere.
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Indeed and that's what I expanded on in my other post.
With this team, it's a fair point I think. No one criticized Moyes for doing it at Everton, it was doing it at United that we all hated.
Saying that, when Van Gaal visited Old Trafford and knocked us out of the Champions League with Bayern Munich, he said that United were favourites, and Bayern had a 'way to go to get to United level' and that they should 'try to be like United' (paraphrasing of course) which we ripped Moyes for too. I guess the difference was Van Gaal has the personality and charisma to know he's joking/playing mind games, Fergie chalked it up as such - whereas Moyes was just in the completely wrong mindset and genuinely believed what he was saying.
Saying that, when Van Gaal visited Old Trafford and knocked us out of the Champions League with Bayern Munich, he said that United were favourites, and Bayern had a 'way to go to get to United level' and that they should 'try to be like United' (paraphrasing of course) which we ripped Moyes for too. I guess the difference was Van Gaal has the personality and charisma to know he's joking/playing mind games, Fergie chalked it up as such - whereas Moyes was just in the completely wrong mindset and genuinely believed what he was saying.
If Moyes was managing Barcelona he would have been bleating on about the lack of talent. He's a loser.
A rumour on there that a French newspaper is reporting today that Bastia are trying to sign Lindegaard. Not seen this confirmed anywhere reliable yet though. Claude Makelele is the manager there I think.
Fair enough. I admit that I overreacted with my earlier post. Though if we are looking at it in context with your history of posts on Moyes, then can't fully blame me
As with LvG and why he isn't blasted on here - there is a lot of euphoria associated with his appointment, kind of overcompensation for the negativity last season. Moyes was able to create an underdog situation and had us compete against Bayern in a knock-out competition. He did it with Everton and had them pull above their weight during his time there. The Dutch haven't achieved anything yet, their quarter final opponents, so far, have the exact same achievement as them with mostly no name players and a no name manager.
There was also the small matter of Chelsea blowing us out of the water on wages by offering a 21 year old kid £180k a week.
Yeah, right
Gustavo for €25m? That is a bargain.
When you area winner you can get away with pretty much anything. Mourinho said things that were just as negative as Moyes at times but didn't get near as much stick as Moyes got because Moyes hadn't earned a sit at the table where the likes of Fergie, Ancelloti and Mourinho dine.
Yep, it's a good point, and just shows that you have to have the gravitas and respect of your squad to paint them in an underdog light, or foster a them v us siege type mentality.
Sadly for Moyes, and us, he never had the gravitas nor the belief and confidence of his players.
They really do want to become the next Southampton!
Wonder if their fans are getting a bit alarmed, like when we seemed to be trying to convert into Everton
Moyes basically did come out with that roughly 4 months after taking over the league champions.
I see nothing wrong with that. 40m may look like a tad too much, but Di Maria is world class.
Yeah I agree, my response was only due to the fact that I can't see Di Maria signing for us.
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