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Hmm that's true mate but maybe he knows something we don't. Maybe Van Gaal has let it be known to Giggsy that we'll be playing a 4-3-3 next season and that particular bit of information has been passed onto Paul. And TBF in that particular system we could easily accommodate both Kroos and Herrera alongwith a more defensively sound midfield enforcer like Pirlo (Kroos), Seedorf (Ander), Gattuso (?) for Milan. Again this is just me hypothesising. Who knows what's really going on in Scholesy's mind. :)
The issue with that is, what happens to Mata? Shoved onto the wings? And Rooney?
 


perfect example just now why Lahm in DM IS a smart idea - zero protection for back four from Khedira, Schweini and Kroos

Good point.
 
Wasn't wanted in the new set up probably? Don't know. Just speculation
Didn't we keep Nicky Butt? I find it hard to believe he'd have something to offer, but Scholes wouldn't, he probably didn't want it or wasn't even offered. Besides I think Scholes just really likes him, seeing as Kroos is almost a like for like, he'd probably want United to finally buy that Scholes replacement
 
Didn't we keep Nicky Butt? I find it hard to believe he'd have something to offer, but Scholes wouldn't, he probably didn't want it or wasn't even offered. Besides I think Scholes just really likes him, seeing as Kroos is almost a like for like, he'd probably want United to finally buy that Scholes replacement
Nicky has had experience coaching the young'uns, hasn't he? That's probably why he was offered that role.
 


perfect example just now why Lahm in DM IS a smart idea - zero protection for back four from Khedira, Schweini and Kroos

Good point.

Its not that the three cant defend, just that they're pushing up and looking for a goal.. Khadira is a DM after all!
 
The issue with that is, what happens to Mata? Shoved onto the wings? And Rooney?

Errr I dunno about that mate. Though recently having a look at our playing staff a thought has entered my mind that I mentioned in the Vidal thread too. Maybe Van Gaal wants to implement a 4-3-1-2 (a slight tweak of his current Dutch formation and pretty much like the original 1970s Ajax total voetbal formation) that'll accommodate all of our best players in their best positions while nullifying our weak spot (wingplay) :

624772_AFC_Ajax.jpg


TBF this kind of a formation with a slight caveat of the back 4 being flat could be plausible next season.

Rep ~ RVP
Keizer ~ Rooney
Cruyff ~ Mata
Muhren ~ Ander
Haan ~ ? maybe Vidal
Neeskens ~ ? maybe Carrick or Pjanic (more suited)/ Strootman (lesser playmaking ability) in the winter window.
Krol ~ Shaw
Hulshoff ~ ? maybe Hummels alternately Evans
Blankenburg ~ Jones
Suurbier ~ Rafael
Stuy ~ De Gea
 


#MUFC nearly signed every stand out player of this WC. RT @MOgdenTelegraph: Rais M'Bolhi had a week on trial at #mufc during 2009-10 season.

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Thank you Rafa.. Journos, doesn't matter who for, are seriously jumping on the bandwagon of "those that got away" with us recently. They can feck off. We have DDG, who the feck wants Rais M'Bolhi....
 


perfect example just now why Lahm in DM IS a smart idea - zero protection for back four from Khedira, Schweini and Kroos

Good point.

And exactly why it was so ridiculous not to take one of the Bender twins. Löw has made some bizarre choices in this squad, even more baffling is the lack of full backs.
 

Müller just did a Gerrard to distract Algerian players.

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Another reason I like him "did a Gerrard" :lol:
 
I'm surprised he's on so many users 'blacklist'. It's not as if he claims to be ITK or make transfer claims, Barcelona related matters a side.
 
All this talk about players that got away from United is quite annoying. James Rodriguez is one of the examples. The problem I have is that we don't know that James Rodriguez would have developed as well as he did were he at United instead of Porto. Same for all the other examples imo.
 
I'm surprised he's on so many users 'blacklist'. It's not as if he claims to be ITK or make transfer claims, Barcelona related matters a side.
Yeah. I've been following him since the winter window in 2013 and i've only ever seen him make an "ITK prediction" which was Cesc to City. He said a couple of days later to ignore him as he found out the source of info wasn't as reliable as first though.

He normally just posts insightful posts about La Liga and any news stories. Interesting read a lot of the time.
 


#MUFC nearly signed every stand out player of this WC. RT @MOgdenTelegraph: Rais M'Bolhi had a week on trial at #mufc during 2009-10 season.

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Thank you Rafa.. Journos, doesn't matter who for, are seriously jumping on the bandwagon of "those that got away" with us recently. They can feck off. We have DDG, who the feck wants Rais M'Bolhi....


I agree. Gary Medel has had a great tournament too. Odenwingie has scored a few.. so what?
 
Just a quick question....

If Roy Keane was on ITV right now, and he said what Scholes has said, what would you think?

If Keane would have said exact same thing I would not have criticized it. With Keane though there is always a chance that his opinions about United will be clouded by bitterness and everyone knows why. Scholes has nothing to be bitter about. Also one need to be expert in psychology to understand of those two who speaks what with bitterness attached to it. Have you even read what Scholes has said? Or a Daily Mail headline is enough for you to pass judgements?
 
I'm surprised he's on so many users 'blacklist'. It's not as if he claims to be ITK or make transfer claims, Barcelona related matters a side.
Yeah, he's great. Very active and pretty much al he does is repost news from other journos and at times comments how reliable they are (by mentioning their other news which have been true or bullshit). He never has claimed to be an ITK and doesn't give exclusives but it is a good account to see what other journos are saying. Also, he posts aming news!
 
Seems like Scholes is trying to take a dig at Woodward with that quote. Kind of downplaying our signings a bit.

Sure, why not. He is definitely taking dig at Woodward. You know because he is as deluded a fool as many posters here who think they understand business better than a CEO.
 
If Keane would have said exact same thing I would not have criticized it. With Keane though there is always a chance that his opinions about United will be clouded by bitterness and everyone knows why. Scholes has nothing to be bitter about. Also one need to be expert in psychology to understand of those two who speaks what with bitterness attached to it. Have you even read what Scholes has said? Or a Daily Mail headline is enough for you to pass judgements?

Oh have a smoke and calm down!
Only thing I've said about Scholes is that he was completely wrong and stupid to have a pop at Rooney, before the start of a World Cup! And I don't see how anyone can argue with that.

Jesus....Dare question a member of the beloved "class of 92" and you'll be under the spotlight
 
I'm surprised he's on so many users 'blacklist'. It's not as if he claims to be ITK or make transfer claims, Barcelona related matters a side.
Some people just cannot grasp that there's a difference between reporting/making up your own transfer rumours and then discussing the possibility and likelihood of rumours from other sources. Some are also calling for SportWitness to be banned.
 
Oh have a smoke and calm down!
Only thing I've said about Scholes is that he was completely wrong and stupid to have a pop at Rooney, before the start of a World Cup! And I don't see how anyone can argue with that.

Jesus....Dare question a member of the beloved "class of 92" and you'll be under the spotlight

Again, he was not having a 'pop.' God, no wonder it is so easy for newspapers and websites to increase revenue just by typing a sensational headline because it is enough for people to form opinions. The content or reference doesn't matter.
 
You have to laugh. Not a peep out of him for 20 years and now you can't shut the little ginger fecker up.
 
Errr I dunno about that mate. Though recently having a look at our playing staff a thought has entered my mind that I mentioned in the Vidal thread too. Maybe Van Gaal wants to implement a 4-3-1-2 (a slight tweak of his current Dutch formation and pretty much like the original 1970s Ajax total voetbal formation) that'll accommodate all of our best players in their best positions while nullifying our weak spot (wingplay) :

624772_AFC_Ajax.jpg


TBF this kind of a formation with a slight caveat of the back 4 being flat could be plausible next season.

Rep ~ RVP
Keizer ~ Rooney
Cruyff ~ Mata
Muhren ~ Ander
Haan ~ ? maybe Vidal
Neeskens ~ ? maybe Carrick or Pjanic (more suited)/ Strootman (lesser playmaking ability) in the winter window.
Krol ~ Shaw
Hulshoff ~ ? maybe Hummels alternately Evans
Blankenburg ~ Jones
Suurbier ~ Rafael
Stuy ~ De Gea
Could have saved yourself a lot of hassle by just calling it a midfield diamond....
 
Again, he was not having a 'pop.' God, no wonder it is so easy for newspapers and websites to increase revenue just by typing a sensational headline because it is enough for people to form opinions. The content or reference doesn't matter.

I read the article! Don't assume otherwise or get sarcy!

He said Rooney was past his peak, wouldn't last long past 30 and then questioned if Woy would drop him if needs be
Considering the fact Wayne Rooney got pretty annoyed about it, I think it's safe to say he had a pop at him in some shape of form.
 
I read the article! Don't assume otherwise or get sarcy!

He said Rooney was past his peak, wouldn't last long past 30 and then questioned if Woy would drop him if needs be
Considering the fact Wayne Rooney got pretty annoyed about it, I think it's safe to say he had a pop at him in some shape of form.

"He's got a brilliant scoring record for his country with 38 goals in 89 internationals, but he's played in eight World Cup games without a goal. You expect more of him. If Wayne is going to be one of the best footballers in the world, this World Cup is where he has to produce.
"Maybe Wayne has felt the pressure of playing for England in the last two World Cups when he's not scored. I know how difficult it can be.

"His best attributes are his energy, desire, a will to win which is unbelievable - but, above all, his goals.

"Wayne wants all the responsibility to score. He'll try to play left back, right back. Sometimes he does that too much instead of saving himself and his energy for what his teams need - the ball in the net.

"He needs to use his energy more effectively now as he's a player who likes to be up front on his own and I don't think he's great with partnerships."

He said: "I'm not saying Wayne needs to be dropped but if form doesn't get up to scratch in the warm-ups, or in the first game of the World Cup, it'll be interesting to see if the England management team has the balls to make that decision.

"We have quality forwards in the squad this time. That should give Wayne the competition he needs to spur him on a little more.

"To get the very best from Wayne in Rio, the manager needs to tell him, 'Don't bother running back. Stay up top. Stay centre forward. Score goals. That's your job in my team'."


Scholes added: "There's a chance he's worn out. Wayne's peak may have been a lot younger than what we'd expect of footballers traditionally.

"Age 28 or 29 has been the normal 'peak'. With Wayne, it could have been when he scored 27 league goals in 2011/2012 when he was 26.

"There's a chance he's worn out. Wayne's peak may have been a lot younger than what we'd expect of footballers traditionally."

"It'll be interesting next season with Louis van Gaal at Manchester United and how he decides to play Wayne.

"It looks like it might come to a straight choice between Wayne and Robin van Persie.

"Wayne might be a player who'd retire come 31 or 32, given the amount of football he's played. Ryan Giggs has been on the go for ages, but he adjusted his position. Can Wayne do the same?

"I don't think Wayne will be able to play centre forward until he's 34 or 35. But he could play centre midfield, possibly, into his mid-thirties.

"He's got all the ability to take over my old position at Manchester United. He has played some games there, but has never gone on an uninterrupted run. Whether he has the discipline to do it, right now I'm not sure."


Read the article again. If from it and from bolded part you get that Scholes was having a 'pop' then either you have serious reading comprehension issues or you didn't read and were going by what media told you to believe. You decide.
 
Scholes isn't the most articulate. Like Wayne himself, I find they often say the first thing that comes to mind and then try to explain or elaborate. They are best left to play footy and leave the interviews for someone else.
 
Scholes isn't the most articulate. Like Wayne himself, I find they often say the first thing that comes to mind and then try to explain or elaborate. They are best left to play footy and leave the interviews for someone else.

True. I think he should take up job to train our youths and ignore these offers for writing for some shites like PaddyPower etc.
 
Read the article again. If from it and from bolded part you get that Scholes was having a 'pop' then either you have serious reading comprehension issues or you didn't read and were going by what media told you to believe. You decide.

Wayne Rooney got insulted by it.....And if I was in Rooney's shoes, I'd be pretty insulted to! Rooney even suggested he pissed people at the club off with this for God's sake. Rooney took it as Scholes have a dig at him, and the article was about him, so what more do you want me to say?

You can sit here, typing up your defence of Scholes all night....But the fact remains the man, whom the article was about, took offense to it. As far am I'm concerned, thats all I need to know
 
Read the article again. If from it and from bolded part you get that Scholes was having a 'pop' then either you have serious reading comprehension issues or you didn't read and were going by what media told you to believe. You decide.
Because he said "may" and "could" a lot? That's just Scholes being vague, he is a vague personality after all. He suggested that Rooney was past his peak and could only have a few years left and that's not a very nice thing to say about someone you coached a few weeks ago, played with for nine years and who plays at a club that pay you to be their ambassador.
 
Wayne Rooney got insulted by it.....And if I was in Rooney's shoes, I'd be pretty insulted to! Rooney even suggested he pissed people at the club off with this for God's sake. Rooney took it as Scholes have a dig at him, and the article was about him, so what more do you want me to say?

You can sit here, typing up your defence of Scholes all night....But the fact remains the man, whom the article was about, took offense to it. As far am I'm concerned, thats all I need to know

You yourself have proved it then, I don't need to explain further. So you are essentially saying that, "I will believe what media will have me believe and that's what Rooney believed too so it is insult. It doesn't matter what Scholes say but I don't have capability to understand for myself what I read so I will let media tell me what has been said."
 
Because he said "may" and "could" a lot? That's just Scholes being vague, he is a vague personality after all. He suggested that Rooney was past his peak and could only have a few years left and that's not a very nice thing to say about someone you coached a few weeks ago, played with for nine years and who plays at a club that pay you to be their ambassador.

Sure, you know it because you are a psychiatrist to whom he visits on regular basis to cure serious mental issues.
 
You yourself have proved it then, I don't need to explain further. So you are essentially saying that, "I will believe what media will have me believe and that's what Rooney believed too so it is insult. It doesn't matter what Scholes say but I don't have capability understand for myself what I read so I will let media tell me what has been said."

Sorry but, why are you insulting me and my intelligence here?

I didn't insult you, so pipe it down!
 
Because he said "may" and "could" a lot? That's just Scholes being vague, he is a vague personality after all. He suggested that Rooney was past his peak and could only have a few years left and that's not a very nice thing to say about someone you coached a few weeks ago, played with for nine years and who plays at a club that pay you to be their ambassador.
He also said he had the ability to replace him in midfield eventually. The vicious bastard.
 
Sorry but, why are you insulting me and my intelligence here?

I didn't insult you, so pipe it down!

because you are finding ways to imply that Scholes is having nothing but bad things to say about club, whether in case of Rooney or Herrera which is not the case. Even after posting whole article, which after reading, anyone will agree that Scholes had no malicious intent, you want to remain adamant for reasons only you know.
 
because you are finding ways to imply that Scholes is having nothing but bad things to say about club, whether in case of Rooney or Herrera which is not the case. Even after posting whole article, which after reading, anyone will agree that Scholes had no malicious intent, you want to remain adamant for reasons only you know.

No....See....You're talking utter rubbish now!

I never said Scholes has nothing but bad to say about the club.
I never even mentioned Herrera.

So you are just getting angry and insulting me unnecessarily over something, you fabricated!

What I actually said was, it was stupid of Scholes to write that article just before the World Cup!

I never once said anything else. So congratulations. You've succeeded in insulting me, coming across extremely rudely and accusing me of posting things, I never even posted.
 
You have to laugh. Not a peep out of him for 20 years and now you can't shut the little ginger fecker up.

I think Fergie found out quite early that ol' Scholsey was a bit like Dr House when it comes to analyses - He's very intelligent and often brutally honest. Mostly right with what he says too. Except he will offend people with his cutting remarks which are most often painful truths.

Fergie prolly didn't encourage much media for him just for that reason;)
 
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