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I have no problems with the club paying over the odds if the player is good and has potential to be one of the best in the world. Paying huge fees for average squad players is what should be avoided. Real paid way over the top for Bale, but he has improved their attack and I don't think they care too much about what they paid for him now. If Shaw happens to become one of the best full backs in the world, it won't matter to us whether we paid £15m or £35m. If he fails to settle however.....

Buying players from the PL already minimises teh risk he wont settle - but probably accounts for the reason why such players costs more money.

There are never any guarantees with any player, but this lad really looks like he has all the tools to be a great player for a long time. Its a s close to "guaranteed" as you will ever get in my opinion.
 
I wish he'd have said more during his career then Scholes wouldn't feel the need so much to become such a gobshite to raise his media profile after he retired, as has seemingly happened.
 
Scholes didn't slam United. He just used Lingard as an example of Premier League clubs not giving English players a chance. Lingard, Zaha and Januazaj looked very good during the preseason tour - but only Januzaj got the chance. Did Januzaj deserve his chance - definitely - but the other two would have benefited with some game time, especially when the team was looking flat. There was a lot times during the season where the team lacked spark and hunger - I think giving a youngster a chance during these times (e.g. a 15 minute cameo to show what they can do) could be beneficial. Januzaj got a chance and took it. James Wilson got a chance and took. I would say Tom Lawrence looked good in the game he played as well, dead rubber or not.

He's not wrong about the English tax either - just look at Newcastle. I don't think they spent much on the players they have, but if they had all been English, the price would be far greater.
 


You really get the impression Rio thought he was going to retire with us. Its a bit of a shame really. With Vida leaving I think we should have given him a one year deal.


Agreed. I would've have kept him for one more year, he seems to be very respect by the United players so he could've been useful in helping the new lads settle in.
 
I don't agree with Scholes, Lingard a good loan is great for his development and he got to play a lot of games. Evans, Welbeck and Cleverley all went on loans before they broke into the first team.
 
That Serge :lol: just tweeted himself charging his phone in his car. Thrilling stuff.
 
Ahhh....



Manchester United's Ander Herrera reveals Juan Mata, David de Gea influence

From the article...

"I know they are very happy," Herrera told MUTV. "I was talking to them and they told me that this is the biggest club in the world and that we have a very good squad. We are very good friends and I am sure that they will help me to adapt and get to know the club."
 


You really get the impression Rio thought he was going to retire with us. Its a bit of a shame really. With Vida leaving I think we should have given him a one year deal.

It does make you a bit sad but at the end of the day he just wasn't good enough anymore. This kind of sentimentality proved costly under Fergie who couldn't let go of the old guard when they lost their legs. Letting go of Rio was the correct decision.
 
It does make you a bit sad but at the end of the day he just wasn't good enough anymore. This kind of sentimentality proved costly under Fergie who couldn't let go of the old guard when they lost their legs. Letting go of Rio was the correct decision.
Plus there is the rumours of him causing leaks to the press and dressing room disharmony last season.
 
Plus there is the rumours of him causing leaks to the press and dressing room disharmony last season.
Meh, rumours. He may have added to the discontent with the former manager but I highly doubt Rio was there leaking stuff.
 
It does make you a bit sad but at the end of the day he just wasn't good enough anymore. This kind of sentimentality proved costly under Fergie who couldn't let go of the old guard when they lost their legs. Letting go of Rio was the correct decision.

How exactly did it prove costly?
 
How exactly did it prove costly?
I think he relied way too much on Giggs and Scholes when they should have been bit-part players. Not to mention he (seemingly) postponed the signing of a CM for years because he still had those two in the squad.
 
I think he relied way too much on Giggs and Scholes when they should have been bit-part players. Not to mention he (seemingly) postponed the signing of a CM for years because he still had those two in the squad.

But how was it costly. We won the league in his final year and missed out on goal difference the year before. Was he expected to finish 0th?
 
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I still think Lingard will be part of the first team next season, so Scholes is going to look a bit silly.

That's not the point he was making though. What he is saying is correct. He should have been given a chance.

Alot of you are taking this as a knock at United when it seems to me to be a knock at Moyes.
 
But how was it costly. We won the league in his final year and missed out on goal difference the year before. Was he expected to finish 0th?
I think everybody agrees that Fergie didn't leave a fantastic United side for Moyes, even though Moyes spectacularly failed to get anything out of the decent material he had. If Fergie had been more forward-looking with his transfer dealings in his latter years, we might have been spared the last season. We also might have had a team that played with pace, power and high pressing instead of this static, slow, predictable style of football, which in my opinion undeniably comes from fielding midfielders who didn't have the legs to make any energetic runs.
 
It came out that it was a Younger player in the squad and that Dave knew who it was.
Yeah that doesn't really prove much but fair enough if it wasn't him. It will be interesting to read his book in a few months. It was the right time for him to leave anyway.
 
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