Trump/Russia/SDNY investigation
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As I've said before. Trump, Nunes and the Republicans are playing checkers while Mueller and his team are playing chess.
Trump exposes nothing but his own stupidity. My issue with this is that you're thinking is part of the problem as you are not picking you're fights. More often then not when someone posts an example of something from Trump or the Republican Party that makes our collective jaws drop you immediately step in with some whataboutism and post some right wing blog or article about how Hillary is a bitch, Obama is a murderer and the Dems are worse than the Putin regime.
You are on a constant attack against what you sometimes mention is you're side. Trump and his cuntery is well documented at this stage but like a good trumpite you continue to attack Hillary and Obama, who are kind of irrelevant right now.
Be honest with yourself and realize that America will never be this left wing paradise you crave. Money and corruption is too ingrained in the system, has been for over a hundred years. That along with a large part of the population that don't give a shit and one party in a two party system have set up their stall with dumb and bigoted people so as to make as much wealth for a minuscule but powerful percentage of the population.
By the way, Victor Meldrew was a character on a comedy show who was pissed off at everything, he found anger in everything even though good things were happening around him.
As funny as this is though it’s a very crude reflection of what they are attempting. Rather than redacting though, they are omitting.
He just tries to not appear that partisan.
I don’t think Ryan is angling for fair play as much as to relieve public perception that this is a one sided affair. He knows that Trump will in the end have to approve the declassification of the Dem counter memo, which isn’t likely since it apparently is a line for line debunking of the Nunes memo.
Still, more pressure on Trump. If he sees fit to release the one memo, I’d like to see his explanation for not releasing the second without contradiction.
This spineless bastard? Hell fecking no.
Paul Ryan... welcome to the resistance?
Oh goody they re "troubled" again.
It seems the entire cabinet and Republican party is scrambling to backtrack from Trumps comments.
Interesting to see when the memo actually drops now. It HAS to come out now and as we all knew, It's a whole burger of nothing.
Ok, I've cleaned up the latest thread derailment. Now let's get back to the actual topic.
Right choice, but where did you put it? I found it interesting even tho off topic.
Have they arranged an interview yet... and Im guessing the odds are slim - but any chance its televised as it would be pure ratings gold
General Chat thread at the top of the CE
Aaah feck that....
No way any side in this would agree to be televized.
Aha! (Just catching up wth this thread)
At the end of the day its all up to Trump to declassify whatever is in the Dem memo, so if he views its contents as going against what is in the Nunes memo, then he may not allow it.
I didn't realise that. Funny how the tide ebbs and flows in this story. Its not ebbing Trump's way right now if the nervousness in his GOP sidekicks is any indication.
That would be the ultimate cnuttery and also a test if there are republicans with some decency left in them.
Just checking if I'm following this...
Republican members of the house intelligence committee have drafted a memo, that we are lead to believe contains things that are true but hugely misleading without context. They want to release it.
Democrats who have seen the memo have drafted their own response to it, putting in the context. They want to release it.
Is that the current state?
Republican members of the house intelligence committee have drafted a memo, that we are lead to believe contains things that are true but hugely misleading without context. They want to release it.
Democrats who have seen the memo have drafted their own response to it, putting in the context. They want to release it.
Is that the current state?
Pretty much. The Republican memo (aka the Nunes Memo) is basically a 4 page summary of how Nunes interpreted a much longer FISA request to monitor Carter Page. Nunes and his staff apparently cherrypicked things they wanted to and created a memo in order to vilify elements of the FBi. Trump is now championing this and wants to release it, apparently to muddy the FBI's credibility in the Russia investigation.
The Dems now want to put out their own countermemo that is apparently a line for line debunking of why the Nunes memo is inaccurate and the two sides are arguing over whether the Nunes memo should be released, and if it is released why the Dem memo shouldn't come out simultaneously.
Nunes and the Dems met to discuss the memo the other day and vote on its release. During that session the Dems read what Nunes had drafted up and voted on it. Then apparently, word got out that the text that Nunes sent to Trump for release approval later in the day had been altered. Once the Dems found out they protested. So now its not known whether what the Dems saw in committee is the same thing as what was sent to the White House, which of course makes Nunes look very shady.
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The Republicans have the majority for the committee so approved a version of the memo then changed it after and sent to the White House.
I think that the minute that this memo is released he should be arrested on an obstruction of justice charge.
He cant release it himself so makes him sound reasonable while it stays blocked.
So McCabe was fired?
He is shady and should be locked up the minute this drops.
The GOP are so lame and desperate. Just because someone holds a personal view that Trump is an idiot, which is a perfectly valid conclusion to come to TBH, it does not mean they would let it effect their work.