Plot twist would be: Trump releases memo, then attacks Nunes for undermining American justice system and attacking hard working government officials.
Trump/Russia/SDNY investigation
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The memo is obviously going to be released to discredit the FBI, so that Mueller's findings don't have legitimacy among Trump's base and among a subsection of his congressional fanboys like Nunes, Gaetze, and others who constantly fawn over him. If impeachment is ever on the table, he will need to retain the support of his hard core base (and by extension enough GOP congressmembers) in order to save his own hide from impeachment. If however there is a Dem wave this November, then his odds of impeachment go up significantly since impeachment starts in the house.
This is what I was talking about here:
It looks like obstruction of justice to me. Nunes using his powers to damage the FBI in order to impede Mueller's investigation is absolutely no different to Trump using his powers to sack Comey to impede the original Russia investigation.
In fact both of which are absolutely fecking insane, treasonous and terrifying. They are attempting to bring down one of the pillars of American society and so called patriots in government and around the country are supporting it.
Because they are all full of shite Pex. Rs, Ds, all of them...
*Ok maybe not all, but near enough....
Wow...this is huge.
I initially thought so, but then I remembered all the other times I've thought that, and what eventually came to pass. Why is this huge?
Because until now we haven't really had much insight into the degree of information Mueller has available to him. We've probably been operating on a 10% presumption based on media leaks. This would suggest a strong effort by Mueller to pursue an obstruction of justice charge against Trump by proving corrupt intent to disrupt the investigation by pursuing firing all the key players.
Ok. Cheers.
Remember all the times you've said "wow this is huge" and then thought it didn't amount to anything? Just consider that Mueller has a record and will have explored each of those events further. He'll also have a lot of huge things that we haven't even heard of yet.
When the case is as good as water tight as he can make it, we will see an avalanche of shit flowing in their direction.
Would be nice.
Very interesting quote from Wray when you consider the fact the WH was making it sound like they had full accss the memo, along with CIA , NSA and others to dissect it before release. Wray is now contradicting that.
Nunes and the FBI now in a public handbags
I think we are getting very close to the obstruction of justice case. A lot of stuff coming out recently.
The transcripts of the house intelligence committee votes on releasing the memo. They make me sick to my stomach.
http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/20180129/106822/HMTG-115-IG00-Transcript-20180129.pdf
http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/20180129/106822/HMTG-115-IG00-Transcript-20180129.pdf
Adding to this, the fact that we know there are still several (can't remember how many) sealed indictments just waiting to be opened at the opportune time.
We don't know who those are for or what they contain but I'd suggest given they've not been opened yet, they're being saved for something big.
Considering the amount of coverage on the whole subject, we know next to nothing about what Mueller knows. We can only hope and pray it's a shitload.
Just finished reading it. The Democrats fought a hell of a battle in there and made it absolutely clear just how cooked this whole thing is.
The positive to take from it is that it sounds like the minority memo will be released in a week or so and it sounds like it clearly outlines just how misleading Nunes memo is.
Wow that is indeed absolutely sickening. For those with limited time - start reading at about the page that's numbered with 21 if you really want to see what a farce this is. You can just sense Schiff's blood boiling in a way, and I don't blame him.
If the minority report completely debunks the majority report like Schiff says it does, I just can’t see how there won’t be consequences at some point down the line for Nunes’, as they put it, “extraordinarily reckless actions” which are completely at odds with national security interests.
Once that becomes clear and if a scrap of evidence points to him acting on behalf of Trump, he’s going to be neck deep shit.
What's in it for Nunes to go to these lengths?
He's neck deep in past illegal/sketchy shit and will be exposed in the investigation?
He's been paid off/promised by Trump?
He genuinely believes in Trump, racism, etc?
He's neck deep in past illegal/sketchy shit and will be exposed in the investigation?
He's been paid off/promised by Trump?
He genuinely believes in Trump, racism, etc?
I was thinking about this the other day. He’s either:
1. Incredibly partisan and incredibly stupid.
2. Implicated and doing whatever he can to halt the investigation.
3. Fear. We’ve seen countless stories of people falling foul of Putin’s regime and winding up dead. You can see just how valuable Trump is to Putin and his Oligarchs when he shields them from sanctions that would cost them billions. It’s not difficult to believe the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee might have been a target too at some point and they’ve either got stuff on him too, have threatened his family or both.
Regarding point 3, that's a bit much tbf. It's one thing to create a fake media campaign and influence public opinion , but blackmailing the chairman of HIC...
Why is Nunes doing this ?
1. He is a member of the Trump Transition team (which many seem to forget) and thus obviously has a loyalty to Trump and by extension, is willing to use his position to run interference against the House investigation (of which he was the committee chair before he recused himself, before he ignored his own recusal).
2. Nunes is also a part of a gaggle of younger 30 and 40 something GOP congressman who look up to Trump as a bit of a patriarchal political father figure; and of course anyone who knows Trump, knows he runs a bit of a patronage network whereby those who do things for him are rewarded by him doing them odd favors, which in a political context can mean reelection for many GOP politicians.
3. In his own warped mindset, Nunes may also believe that he's doing a good thing by protecting Trump against unfair politically motivated attacks that aren't interested in justice; but rather to eventually take Trump down through impeachment.
If you combine all of these, you get the sort of behavior we've been seeing from him for the past year.
1. He is a member of the Trump Transition team (which many seem to forget) and thus obviously has a loyalty to Trump and by extension, is willing to use his position to run interference against the House investigation (of which he was the committee chair before he recused himself, before he ignored his own recusal).
2. Nunes is also a part of a gaggle of younger 30 and 40 something GOP congressman who look up to Trump as a bit of a patriarchal political father figure; and of course anyone who knows Trump, knows he runs a bit of a patronage network whereby those who do things for him are rewarded by him doing them odd favors, which in a political context can mean reelection for many GOP politicians.
3. In his own warped mindset, Nunes may also believe that he's doing a good thing by protecting Trump against unfair politically motivated attacks that aren't interested in justice; but rather to eventually take Trump down through impeachment.
If you combine all of these, you get the sort of behavior we've been seeing from him for the past year.
Re: the memo
Even the language used by Republicans gives their game away: they are 'shocked' by the 'revelations' (oh my, these innocents protest too much). They couldn't make their true motivation more obvious.
FBI has 'grave concerns' about Trump plan to release controversial memo
In statement attributable to FBI director – appointed by Trump – agency raises concerns about ‘material omissions of fact’ in document:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/31/fbi-nunes-memo-release-donald-trump
Even the language used by Republicans gives their game away: they are 'shocked' by the 'revelations' (oh my, these innocents protest too much). They couldn't make their true motivation more obvious.
FBI has 'grave concerns' about Trump plan to release controversial memo
In statement attributable to FBI director – appointed by Trump – agency raises concerns about ‘material omissions of fact’ in document:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/31/fbi-nunes-memo-release-donald-trump
"So, Ms Hicks, what first attracted you to millionaire Donald Trump?"
His giant... hands.
Good god. This just gets worse....
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CNN are now reporting they're going to be redacting some parts of the memo.
And by doing so it makes the context generally either useless or misleading (or both).
Nunes has gone into overdrive to try and crash the whole thing. Hail Mary time
Anyone notice what is going on, on CNN right now ? They are apparently having a special hour of AC 360 to convince Trump (who they think is watching and easily influenced) to not release the memo, with the knowledge that he will release it by tomorrow morning.
I really wish for a time again where I can have the occasional day where I really have no need to pay attention to the news out of DC. It's frustrating to know so many people out there probably don't pay much attention at all to how unprecedented the actions of this administration are (like whatever happened with the followup to the shady award of that contractor in Puerto Rico, or hell.. The handling of Puerto Rico overall.. will there be an investigation? - or why did De Vos give a contract to handle student debt to a company she had or has close ties with?. . and on and on it goes) or... some people simply don't care. Sometimes I really wish I could just not care. Shit s exhausting and depressing.
How about alleged deep ties to Albanian & Russian organized crime?
*Its a twitter thread rather than just that one article btw.
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What a conniving little rat
This one would fit right into Bulgarian politics.