I would like you all to stick your finger in your ass.
I'm now going to feck your missus.
Vote Billy! It's weekdays on channel 10
I'm now going to feck your missus.
Vote Billy! It's weekdays on channel 10
Trump and Brexit: What has happened to the world?
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I'm arrogant for asking why Brexit and Trump have come about? Yeah, makes sense.
Then you've got anomalies like this goon at work. Pro Brexit, Pro Trump, Pro Britain First, Anti anything with any culture in it (including yoghurts) revelling in the fact that he's now been given a green light to air his bile.
But the anomaly isn't his opinion it's the fact that he doesn't really have anything to be angry about. He's in a job that pays far better than he could ever dream of and he's pushing 40 and still lives at home with his parents taking the last few days of work to play the new Call of Duty. I can only assume his anger comes from never having felt the touch of a woman.
But the anomaly isn't his opinion it's the fact that he doesn't really have anything to be angry about. He's in a job that pays far better than he could ever dream of and he's pushing 40 and still lives at home with his parents taking the last few days of work to play the new Call of Duty. I can only assume his anger comes from never having felt the touch of a woman.
This!
The nominated parties of the left that the working class, poor and vulnerable should be voting for are no longer the same parties. The Blairs and the Clintons of the world coopted that space over 20 years ago. The Naders, (briefly) Lib Dems, Greens don't have the base to enact any real longterm change.
I hope we see the left try to back the working class now.
No you are ignorrant because you think that people who thinks differently as you are stupid.
Democracy, equality and freedom of speech is all about different opinions and different people but when conservative people express their opinion they are to often called stupid by liberals. I often ask myself how the people who "should" support equality and freedom of speech even more then any other act so intolerant to other opinions from people who think differently.
In a lot of cases it wasn't even the status quo. In the run up to the Brexit referendum I saw many Remainers criticise the EU and predict things will get worse if their side won, they just thought it would get even worse, and quicker, if Britain left. I knew the Democrats were in real trouble when I began seeing their voters make the same arguments: 'Yes Clinton will be a very bad president but Trump will be even worse.'
If it's really hard to defend the status quo then it's basically impossible to win with the lesser of two evils.
You don't seem to understand the concept of freedom of speech. True freedom of speech means that people should be free to express any opinion, even stupid or racist ones. Equally, people should be free to call out a stupid or racist opinion when they hear one.
He's a fecking cnut and I'm pissed off
Damn right. Well said
No, democracy is respecting the other person's vote, not his opinion. Having freedom of speech does not mean that one can't disagree with what somebody else has said. Lets call a spade a spade here, much of Trump's campaign and the Vote leave campaign was simplistic nonsense. The fact that loads of people are sold on nonsense does not somehow magically make it reality.
Sorry but anyone who thinks racism, sexism, bigotry in general doesn't have anything to do with Trump winning tonight is deluded.
Dismissing that idea is ridiculous. You only need to listen to the things he says and the the reasons his supporters voted for him.
Dismissing that idea is ridiculous. You only need to listen to the things he says and the the reasons his supporters voted for him.
Agree with Bill Maher .People are stupid. I've always been about people power .But they have been so dumbed down and disconnected from politics .I don't think they are informed enough to make a decision.
How is he arrogant for asking that question?
Im fecking done with politics to be honest, people are too easily scared and manipulated into shit like this and we as a species never fecking learn.
this
Alan. Id say Amen but feck the Christian right wing
It's because people are stupid.
Of course he fecking is which makes that argument ridiculous.
This. The aggression with which the liberal establishment and media has labelled anyone who disagrees with them as stupid/racist/whatever has just hardened people's views and pushed them underground.
Those actions have also made it so easy for the right to turn anyone who wasn't sure which way to go.
People are fed up for a multitude of reasons, they know something isn't right with the people in power but they don't really know what, so when the first populist knocks at their doors and brings a bag of culprit and solutions they back him because he doesn't look like his fellow politicians. He is the same though, just far less competent.
So people are angry that they are not allowed to be freely racist, homophobic, sexist etc now because they will get called out for it more than in previous times?
I mean, I understand that sometimes the left does go too far (but instances like that are usually very minor), but oh well.
Some of these reasons don't even make sense. The middle case voting for Trump because he can apparently help the ones being left behind financially. Did he even ever layout his economic policies, besides making sweeping comments, but never getting into specifics?
I mean, I understand that sometimes the left does go too far (but instances like that are usually very minor), but oh well.
Some of these reasons don't even make sense. The middle case voting for Trump because he can apparently help the ones being left behind financially. Did he even ever layout his economic policies, besides making sweeping comments, but never getting into specifics?
can we start a Trump Impeach/Assassination attempt watch thread?
You can't call them these things, they are apparently "fed up" of it.
Good post
Also the bias in the media during the whole campaign has been shocking.
They go out and find the worst Trump fans they possibly can and put them in front of a camera and mock them basically for peoples amusement.
I hope people in the media especially have learnt a valuable lesson
So basically just let this behaviour go unchecked? Yeah that doesnt sound eerily familiar at all does it?
Yes, the guy who predicted all the elections right since I don't know how many years.
This election is low paid workers finally fighting back against the elites that have taken them from granted for too long.
Oh wait. No it wasn't. It was racism.
Oh wait. No it wasn't. It was racism.
Hold on a second, the media consistently give him the majority of air time from the primaries onwards and constantly focused on the emails during the last two weeks.
This...Mainly this...
People saying that it was all to give a middle finger to the establishment, maybe its true to an extent... But why would they vote for a person in the same mould who reeks of "establishment" and in addition is a tax-dodging, misogynistic xenophobe???
I want to live in a socialist country. I don't like the politicians right now, all are useless.
I'm sure most of those with the guns support Trump, if he was anti-second Amendment I'd be worried for him. I'd put money on him to be impeached though, even with a Republican House I think there's a good chance they'd impeach him.
In an attempt to prove that it's unfair to label them as stupid and racist, the American public has voted for the most stupid and racist president in the history of their country.
That'll show 'em...
Well her emails was big news
Just because it came to nothing, They cant exactly ignore it
But the general tone throughout hasnt even been close to even.
Except I didn't say that people who think differently to me are stupid, though I'm starting to think some of you can't read:
Argggh.
Okay. The sky is blue. My shoes are blue. That doesn't mean I blame my shoes for the sky being blue. So if I say "why is the sky blue? Don't tell me it's because of my shoes", that's a sign that I'm not blaming my damn shoes!
Understand? The fact that racism is regressive doesn't mean I blame it for the regressive surge. I've explicitly stated that over several posts. I've bolded those statements. I've put those statements in italics. I've just used an analogy based on the colour of my shoes. I literally don't know how you're not understanding this.
Also, freedom of speech means that people get to call each other stupid.
Unfortunately that can lead to pretty weak debate, which is why I specifically mentioned in the op that I wasn't interested in the "they're stupid" argument. At which point you and the other genius accuse me of calling them stupid. Which, funnily enough, is actually stupid.
Trust South Park to make anthropomorphic berries a profound statement about our culture and society. Tonight/tomorrow's episode is one of the few things I'm looking forward to wrt the fallout from this result.