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Trump and Brexit: What has happened to the world?
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ahahahahah feck off dad
Everyone laughed at me when I couldn't understand how preposterous it was to trust a computer generated model.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-wrong-predict-modern-democracy-a7406456.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-wrong-predict-modern-democracy-a7406456.html
I'm not sure all this 'white-lash' and 'angry white men' talk we are hearing is especially helpful. It simply helps to cement the divide that partly enabled Trump to get into power in the first place.
A few more worryings trends for me.
1. How the herd mentality and dumbing things down to cheap gimmickery is clearly beating logic and reason. Less intelligence and more bravado. Less content and more headlines. Voting "against the system" is brainless if it isn't coupled with a genuine and honest analysis of the alternatives. I understanding de-intellectualising things is important as well, in order to connect to and simplify for people. But there's a limit beyond which it does serous damage.
2. The seeming vacuum of morality. I'm not American but it's a sad reflection on American society that this clown is their leader. Yes, there's often angst again the system. But this is hardly the kind of man who you should feel remotely inspired by. For me, a man who speaks the way he does about Mexicans, African Americans and women, not to mention the things he's done to them, deserves a prison cell rather than to be revered
I can't disagree with any of your points, and both are indeed very worrying trends.
I've thought about this a bit now (because it goes so contrary to my experiences in the states) and actually now think it does make a little sense. Suppose you really believe Hillary is constantly lying, perceive all her talk about the middle class/ blue collar classes to be something she says just to appeal to you, her talking about latino's and blacks simply a play for their vote... Maybe we too would rather have the honest asshole than the smiling lying cheat?
Yes, because you seemed baffled by the actual concept of it. The fact that polls aren't always accurate (which we all already knew anyway) doesn't make the concept itself preposterous in the slightest. We use computer generated models in so many other areas that the idea of someone viewing it as some kind of mad witchcraft was pretty hilarious. It was like you'd only just landed in this century.
You mean honest as in showing a complete disregard for any factual basis for the arguments he puts forward?
Well he never really did make a secret out of his learning disabilities...
She isn't always lying though. And Trump isn't honest at all. In fact, its pretty evident that she's about as honest as your regular political. Trump is a lying machine. Half the time he makes it up as he goes.
The whole "he tells it like it is" is a complete con job. Being a wacko who says ridiculous things isn't being honest.
Not trying to be pedantic but you mean disenchanted, right?
Yeah I agree with you. I'm just trying to construct some kind of rational thought as to why so many people voted for that excuse of a New Yorker.
I think people sometimes confuse telling it like it is with saying terrible things.
Exactly.
Given that 55% of white American women voted for Trump, is it now acceptable for me to ask a white American woman if I can grab her by the pussy?
Are you a white, rich outsider that says it how it is?
I think that he means that they feel excluded, marginalized, not represented by the establishment.
And yet I was on the money.
who the feck is Aaron Sorkin?
TV producer and script writer acclaimed for award winning US TV drama series, THE WEST WING, which depicted life of the US president.
No my mother told me it's not acceptable. I'm getting mouthwash for Christmas.
About Trump getting elected? Sure, you might have been for all I know. It doesn't doesn't make your confusion at the idea of polling any less funny though.
I thought thats how democracy worked?
I'm not sure anymore
Whatever floats your boat dude. I'm not the one who put any faith in an absurd computer program.
Right. Just so we're clear though, you do understand that computer models have been part of things like physics, chemistry, biology, climatology, medicine, engineering, psychology, economics, flight, astronomy, ecology and social sciences since around the mid 20th century?
Doesn't that just end in World War 3?
Everyone laughed at me when I said the same thing.
No - I have edited my OP and moved the word feel for clarity.
Made all the more apparent seeing that a lot of dems are clamouring for a Michelle Obama run in 2020. I mean, on what flipping basis?!
She made a good speech once.
Well thats the election explained.
She seems intelligent, sane, somewhat inspirational and far more politically experienced than the President elect? and she has made at least 1 good speech.
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No because that results in America's opponents being destroyed.
Yep, lots of things that can be measured with some degree of accuracy.