Not behind my back, it's not as cultured as the caf.
On the bright side I can just ban people who disagree with me.
Transgender rights discussion
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) look forward to a new life under Ruben Amorim. What system will we be playing? What players will impress? and how will it all go? We also say goodbye to Ruud Van Nistelrooy and review United's 3-0 win at home against Leicester City.
On the bright side I can just ban people who disagree with me.
The lefty way
Indeed; they all assume I'm a totalitarian communist dictator anyway.
https://www.theguardian.com/society...-on-biological-sex-awarded-100000-by-tribunal
Woman who lost job after tweeting view on biological sex awarded £100,000
Award follows tribunal ruling that Maya Forstater was unfairly discriminated against because of her gender-critical beliefs
feck off
Woman who lost job after tweeting view on biological sex awarded £100,000
Award follows tribunal ruling that Maya Forstater was unfairly discriminated against because of her gender-critical beliefs
feck off
You can't just start sacking people for having a pretty uncontroversial view that's backed up by science. That's ridiculous.
What uncontroversial views backed up by science are you talking about?
transgender women can’t change their biological sex.
The case wasn't about that, so you can rest easy. Calling trans women men, saying it's delusional to think they're women, talking about men in dresses... That was the case.
I’m surprised the Guardian didn’t point these aspects out in their article if it was part of the case.
She is clearly calling trans women men and saying it's delusional - it's there in the article
I'm not.
to be fair aren’t their academics in the fields of psychology and psychiatry that suggest this is one aspect of this? Basically gender dysphoria?
She seems nice...
trans people are not mentally ill, no.
maya and her ilk are basically saying they are and now getting rewarded for it. pathetic doesn't begin to describe it.
Google seems to suggest otherwise. Certainly can see where some people are coming from when cautioning about gender affirming care for children.
What does google seem to suggest to you?
Gender dysphoria in young people is rising—and so is professional disagreement
More children and adolescents are identifying as transgender and are being offered medical treatment, especially in the US—but some providers and European authorities are urging caution because of a lack of strong evidence
https://www.bmj.com/content/380/bmj.p382
Definitely a concern when you mix big Pharma into the equation.
What does that have to do with claiming that trans women are delusional men?
That's very different from, "A man’s internal feeling that he is a woman has no basis in material reality" which is what she said.
One is discussing a rise in diagnosis, the other is just hateful bigotry.
Where did she claim they were delusional? Struggling to find the quote.
It’s relevant because there’s disagreement within the scientific community about this. There clearly are people who have been encouraged to transition due to this based on a feeling of being a gender different to their biological sex.
you can’t go around firing people for expressing valid opinions and labelling them bigots.
Calling something a valid opinion doesnt make it a valid opinion. It's just an opinion
Her statements are in the lawsuit.
Where is the disagreement in the scientific community about whether or not trans women are delusional men?
Still can’t find where she calls trans women delusional. Some more here…
https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2022/jul/10/maya-forstater-transgender-tweets-tribunal-ruling
I’m a bit confused as to why you keep using the word delusional. It doesn’t strike me as particularly helpful for people who might be feeling they have a gender mis match with their biological sex.
I’ve already highlighted the BMJ article.
Almost half the states espouse this shit…
This is going to end up at the Supreme Court (not necessarily this law, but a law on this topic). This should be a slam dunk as the court loves "parental rights", but I can see this being a 5-4 ruling in favor of the laws.
More common sense shock horror.
“British Rowing has announced that transgender women will not be able to compete in the women's category at its events.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rowing/66393959
edit to include opening quote from the article.
“British Rowing has announced that transgender women will not be able to compete in the women's category at its events.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rowing/66393959
edit to include opening quote from the article.
The right decision, but that won’t stop the outrage
I want to check this outrage, can you point me in its direction?
about 5 people on twitter and The Daily Mail I expect
Google is probably your best bet
I’d have thought the daily mail wouldn’t be all that annoyed
no but they'll have an article about how everyone is outraged
I only found references to the news itself...