Transgender rights discussion

Twitter censored the video and shut down sharing and liking the video, now it has 150 million plays with Elon Musk having as a pinned tweet. #WhatIsAWoman







 
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Pretty grim the woman saying she lost all of her friends over her kid being trans. These conservative views run so deep in some folk.
 
This thread is like a sanctuary compared to how grim the athletes thread is
Every poster in that thread saying cis women's sports need protected will be I'm here defending trans rights if it came to it.
 
Every poster in that thread saying cis women's sports need protected will be I'm here defending trans rights if it came to it.
Yes quite, it's almost as if the issue is complicated or something.
 
Not when you have the certainty of youth.

Just prioritising based on one solitary glance at popular culture :)

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even from a transphobe perspective, this must be bottom-of-the-barrel humour? suicide jokes can be funny in an edgy and mean way, making fun of appearance is a universal weapon, but lazily going "man???? woman?!!!"...c'mon, attack helicopter stuff was played out in 2018.
 
Just prioritising based on one solitary glance at popular culture :)

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even from a transphobe perspective, this must be bottom-of-the-barrel humour? suicide jokes can be funny in an edgy and mean way, making fun of appearance is a universal weapon, but lazily going "man???? woman?!!!"...c'mon, attack helicopter stuff was played out in 2018.


Yes. It’s a terrible joke. I believe there are many terrible jokes to be found on that platform. Some of the most unfunny jokes of all are the work of its new owner.
 
@Lightbringer hello good sir, can you give a little context about the tweet and story I'm not a great reader and struggle to analyse. Is this a positive next step or should we be worried? Cheers mate.

It’s crazy that Matt Walsh has been able to grift himself the career as an “alpha” he has. I know these people are always massive losers, but Matt Walsh seems particularly lame, he doesn’t sound smart even to idiots, he’s pretty dorky looking and of course he’s the usual standard of vile. Why has he been championed?
 
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@Lightbringer hello good sir, can you give a little context about the tweet and story I'm not a great reader and struggle to analyse. Is this a positive next step or should we be worried? Cheers mate.

Certainly a positive step.

if Trump or RD gets to the white house they will put a stop to underage children being mutilated and experimented on like frankensteins monster. The would also try to prevent big pharmacys from getting rich of cutting off childrens genitalia before these children knows that Santa Claus does not exist in real life. Hopefully it will also take less than a 20 minute phone call to get approval to have your balls removed etc.

Not any miracles promised, but a step in the right direction for sure!
 
Certainly a positive step.

if Trump or RD gets to the white house they will put a stop to underage children being mutilated and experimented on like frankensteins monster. The would also try to prevent big pharmacys from getting rich of cutting off childrens genitalia before these children knows that Santa Claus does not exist in real life. Hopefully it will also take less than a 20 minute phone call to get approval to have your balls removed etc.

Not any miracles promised, but a step in the right direction for sure!
0/10, poor trolling attempt.
 
0/10, poor trolling attempt.

I have voted left my entire life and will always do, but I side more with Walsh and Dr Jordan B Peterson regarding this topic than the left. Which clearly tells you its of control. That does not mean I like Walsh on the whole, but I can still agree with some of the points he makes.

Can you watch this video and still support whats going on? I can not.




I should add that I dont mind people identifying as non-binary or whatever they want, I have a friend who identifies as part lizard, part cat in the USA and I like her alot. As long as they are not harming anyone else or encourages children to do the same I dont have any problem with it. And I am also very open to people being gay, or men wearing panties and all that kind of stuff. I would even date a shemale! So its not about that at all.
 
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I have voted left my entire life and will always do, but I side more with Walsh and Dr Jordan B Peterson regarding this topic than the left. Which clearly tells you its of control.
It tells me that you lack the critical thinking skills to identify and avoid obvious propaganda.
 
It’s crazy that Matt Walsh has been able to grift himself the career as an “alpha” he has. I know these people are always massive losers, but Matt Walsh seems particularly lame, he doesn’t sound smart even to idiots, he’s pretty dorky looking and of course he’s the usual standard of vile. Why has he been championed?

Because he’s an alpha to the bottom dwellers who look up to him. In the kingdom of the blind etc
 
It tells me that you lack the critical thinking skills to identify and avoid obvious propaganda.

If you can watch this video and think whats going on is OK, then it tells me you lack critical thinking skills. Feel free to convince me otherwise. And I dont like or idolize Walsh or the Dr, but I do not deny logical thinking and arguments which they make in some this matters.

 
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Certainly a positive step.

if Trump or RD gets to the white house they will put a stop to underage children being mutilated and experimented on like frankensteins monster. The would also try to prevent big pharmacys from getting rich of cutting off childrens genitalia before these children knows that Santa Claus does not exist in real life. Hopefully it will also take less than a 20 minute phone call to get approval to have your balls removed etc.

Not any miracles promised, but a step in the right direction for sure!

Big pharmacy does surgery now?!? Where did you hear that?
 
I'll put your mind at ease then: None of it is going on.

Alright, I will consider taking your word that this girl and all the others are just imaginary non-existent individuals, not sure I am going to buy it though because they seem very real to me!
 
Alright, I will consider taking your word that this girl and all the others are just imaginary non-existent individuals, not sure I am going to buy it though because they seem very real to me!
Given that you take people like Jordan Peterson and Matt Walsh at face value, I'm not convinced that you're mentally capable of considering much of anything.

On another note; should it really be OK to post literal fascist propaganda?
 
But jordan peterson said so on the internet...

So because Halftrack says this girls and others dont exist they dont? See the double standards here?

The girl does exist, whether you like it or not.

You can try to deflect from the facts and issue at hand by making fun of Peterson, but it does not exactly cover you in glory.

I dont care about Walsh or Peterson, but some of the stuff they are saying is just facts.

And again, that coming from someone who has voted left my entire life.
 
So because Halftrack says this girls and others dont exist they dont? See the double standards here?

The girl does exist, whether you like it or not.

You can try to deflect from the facts and issue at hand by making fun of Peterson, but it does not exactly cover you in glory.

I dont care about Walsh or Peterson, but some of the stuff they are saying is just facts.

And again, that coming from someone who has voted left my entire life.
There's no shame in falling for some bullshit, we all do sometimes. I hope you eventually realize it.
 
There's no shame in falling for some bullshit, we all do sometimes. I hope you eventually realize it.

There is a great shame in denying girls like Chloe exists, hopefully you and Halftrack eventually realize it.
 
Certainly a positive step.

if Trump or RD gets to the white house they will put a stop to underage children being mutilated and experimented on like frankensteins monster. The would also try to prevent big pharmacys from getting rich of cutting off childrens genitalia before these children knows that Santa Claus does not exist in real life. Hopefully it will also take less than a 20 minute phone call to get approval to have your balls removed etc.

Not any miracles promised, but a step in the right direction for sure!

We got ourselves a culture warrior!

Can you back up your frankly mad claims there?
 
I have a friend who identifies as part lizard, part cat in the USA and I like her alot.
I'm sorry, but is that real? I have never heard of people identifying as animals, let alone two different ones. Is this one of those people that they have cat litters for in school?
 
So because Halftrack says this girls and others dont exist they dont? See the double standards here?

The girl does exist, whether you like it or not.

You can try to deflect from the facts and issue at hand by making fun of Peterson, but it does not exactly cover you in glory.

I dont care about Walsh or Peterson, but some of the stuff they are saying is just facts.

And again, that coming from someone who has voted left my entire life.

Like what? Of course there will be elements of truth in some of the things they say, that’s how they sneak their insidious agendas into the conversation.
 
We got ourselves a culture warrior!

Can you back up your frankly mad claims there?

How can it be offensive to be upset about patients thats being subjected to inhumane and dangerous procedures?

Experimental surgery on people with a catastrophic complication rate that cuts off normally functioning body parts with minors not fully aware of the consequences before going under the knife. People like the girl in the video I linked to never able to show her upper body in public again etc. being disfigured with constant infections. Thats the "monster".

Not the people undergoing the surgeries, they are the victims. I dont think thats offensive at all. I just care about the kids who need to have procedures every week to keep their experimental organs functional while many also have serious side effects and infections on a repeated basis.

There also are no long term studies on these surgeries, meaning they are very experimental, I do not want children and teenagers to be used as experimental lambs while clinics make lots of money on them.

If adults above 20 want to these things, I can accept it. But to do this to children and teenagers who are not mature enough to understand the full pictures of changing their genitalia and likely never experience an orgasm during their life is something I can not agree with.

I know I would never have able to take such decisions at like 10-16 years old.
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So I am not against people having to go on this journey, but they have to be given enough information and be adults before making radical, permanent & life altering changes to their bodies that will make them have to rely on constant medical treatments for the rest of their lives.
 
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I'm sorry, but is that real? I have never heard of people identifying as animals, let alone two different ones. Is this one of those people that they have cat litters for in school?

Its very much real.

Walsh did interview a transgender wolf in the documentary "What is a woman", you can check out that part of the documentary here:




To clarify: I support her in identifying as a wolf, it does not hurt anyone! I am not hating on her at all, she can do whatever makes her happy!
 
How can it be offensive to be upset about patients thats being subjected to inhumane and dangerous procedures?

Experimental surgery on people with a catastrophic complication rate that cuts off normally functioning body parts with minors not fully aware of the consequences before going under the knife. People like the girl in the video I linked to never able to show her upper body in public again etc. being disfigured with constant infections. Thats the "monster".

Not the people undergoing the surgeries, they are the victims. I dont think thats offensive at all. I just care about the kids who need to have procedures every week to keep their experimental organs functional while many also have serious side effects and infections on a repeated basis.

There also are no long term studies on these surgeries, meaning they are very experimental, I do not want children and teenagers to be used as experimental lambs while clinics make lots of money on them.

If adults above 20 want to these things, I can accept it. But to do this to children and teenagers who are not mature enough to understand the full pictures of changing their genitalia and likely never experience an orgasm during their life is something I can not agree with.

I know I would never have able to take such decisions at like 10-16 years old.
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So I am not against people having to go on this journey, but they have to be given enough information and be adults before making radical, permanent & life altering changes to their bodies that will make them have to rely on constant medical treatments for the rest of their lives.



So the short answer is no, you can't back up your mad claims.


So I see you are responding to the warning you got. Fine we can do this here as well.
It's offensive because the language you used is 'othering'. If you don't understand this as a concept then this discussion may be beyond you. To use the word 'monster' , whether post or pre op, is vile and undermines all of the fake allegience and support you profess.