Transgender rights discussion

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At what point and for what reason did transgender discrimination and the subsequent debate over policy explode like this? For example this thread was created in 2020 and has 55 pages of discussion. However we all know transgender individuals existed long before.
I think after more and more countries created legislation to protect the rights of lgb people in ways that are not easy to roll back, the international right needed another target. Trans people were the one target that worked. Which makes kind of sense, given that you can easily play the they-are-trying-to-mess-with-your-kids-game. It’s a very simple and sadly effective way to emotionalise people and create hysteria over nothing. It also helps that trans folk aren’t as big a group as lgb people. Makes it harder for them to defend themselves. Another factor might be that hormone therapy provides an easy way to play into peoples mistrust of the pharma industry and modern medicine in general.
 
In 1000 years when you die they will find two skeletons. Either male or female.
 
I have long thought that it was my skeleton alone which defined me and that everything else was mere window dressing and vanity.
 
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There's only 2. Your born male or Female. Tough. You can't make thing's up. Disgusting to pretend your otherwise.

Disgusting? Were you born with this disgust, was this disgust defined in your bones or did your brain make it up?
 
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Disgusting? Were you born with this disgust, was this disgust defined in your bones or did your brain make it up?
Brainwashed people like you, who thinks it's fine to champion something that's utterly wrong. The human race would cease to exist. Would you marry a transgender?
 
I can imagine best no7 in a bar asking girls for their x-rays, just so he's sure.
 
Weird to ask if someone would marry a transgender. If you fell in love with them, why not?
 
Brainwashed people like you, who thinks it's fine to champion something that's utterly wrong. The human race would cease to exist. Would you marry a transgender?

Wait, the human race would cease to exist if society accommodated the tiny percentage of the population who identify as something other than the sex of their skeleton? You seem to have lost all sense of proportion.

"Brainwashed", "utterly wrong". These seem like value judgements that have no place in your entirely material definition of what constitutes a human. I don't think you've given your position much thought. You seem very angry and earnest though, which seems a bit presumptuous for what is essentially a bag of bones.

If I wasn't already married would I marry a transgender woman? I wouldn't say it was impossible but I honestly doubt it. Does it therefore follow that they have no right to exist? Seems a bit arrogant to assume control of another's life and choices because of my personal predilections. Smells a lot like vanity.
 
Is a decent solution not to just split the terminology into two?

The vast, vast majority of human beings are either biologically male or female, so let's called that their birth sex.

How they identify, feel, who they find attractive, what they want etc let's call gender.

Then just change the laws to say you can't discriminate by sex or gender, and boom, problem solved?

J K Rowling et al can continue to say there are only two biological sexes, and everyone else can say there are as many genders as needed to be inclusive of all (and for bigots to hate).
 
Is a decent solution not to just split the terminology into two?

The vast, vast majority of human beings are either biologically male or female, so let's called that their birth sex.

How they identify, feel, who they find attractive, what they want etc let's call gender.

Then just change the laws to say you can't discriminate by sex or gender, and boom, problem solved?

J K Rowling et al can continue to say there are only two biological sexes, and everyone else can say there are as many genders as needed to be inclusive of all (and for bigots to hate).
That has already been a thing
 
Is a decent solution not to just split the terminology into two?

The vast, vast majority of human beings are either biologically male or female, so let's called that their birth sex.

How they identify, feel, who they find attractive, what they want etc let's call gender.

Then just change the laws to say you can't discriminate by sex or gender, and boom, problem solved?

J K Rowling et al can continue to say there are only two biological sexes, and everyone else can say there are as many genders as needed to be inclusive of all (and for bigots to hate).

But what happens when someone of another gender wants acess to same sex spaces which they are traditionally excluded from? Like say, here in Denmark, in swimhalls you HAVE to shower naked without any privacy before you go in. I dont think many women would appreciate the rules being loosened so a transwoman with a pair testicles and a penis can shower with them.
 
I think conservatives have massively overestimated this culture war. Especially around the topic of genders.

There is a very intense argument online between the opposing factions on trans issues but if you speak to people that aren’t “very online” they don’t seem to have much of a clue about it and are generally of the opinion that they couldn’t care less how trans people live and basically leave them get on with it.

So the idea that the parties on the right are going to bring this to elections as key issues and somehow that’s going to ignite their base seems fanciful at best.
 
But what happens when someone of another gender wants acess to same sex spaces which they are traditionally excluded from? Like say, here in Denmark, in swimhalls you HAVE to shower naked without any privacy before you go in. I dont think many women would appreciate the rules being loosened so a transwoman with a pair testicles and a penis can shower with them.

Maybe Denmark should stop being so pervy and let folks have a little privacy before going for a swim.