Transgender rights discussion

Is there anyone that is hated by the quote unquote translobby that is a good person?

They only seem to go after the crazies, the bigots and the dickheads
 
Ha! To be fair, K-Pop would be my own weakness when it comes to being judgemental without actually checking it out. I just can’t muster up the will. I’m 110% positive I’ll hate it. So I’m being a bit of a hypocrite here.
Can you imagine if you gave K-pop a go and genuinely liked it and then whenever anybody asked you in the future what music you're into you'd have to say, "I'm quite into my K-pop, actually."

Nightmare.
 
Maybe I'm being too harsh but it was decent until the end when it turned into a wishy-washy argument about how trans people have it tough so just be nice to them please. Which is understandable but in my experience has never really worked when talking to people with reactionary views(I'm guessing thats the target audience for this video). This liberal appeal to a common decency or humanity is mostly dismissed and seen as a weakness.
It's a practical appeal for compassion, as a continuation of the previous section highlighting bigotry masquerading as misattributed or phony forms of empathy (such as those rising out of a claimed concern for women or lesbians or German racial purity etc.). It's a robustly reasoned call for basic standards of decency. Her videos have always had a conciliatory element.

The intellectual argument is dusted in the first hour or so, with Wynn hollowing out the rhetoric of the TERF position (and those allied).

The glam and the memes often disguise how necessarily esoteric her content is. For Contrapoints to have any reach and practical political effect, she needs to also appeal using simpler, implementable strategies. The lofty intellectual arguments are a lock but I doubt they have much power to convert.
 
Can you imagine if you gave K-pop a go and genuinely liked it and then whenever anybody asked you in the future what music you're into you'd have to say, "I'm quite into my K-pop, actually."

Nightmare.

They invented lying for a reason..
 
It was created by literal nazis who thought they could use it to sow division among LGBQT+ people.

The second one is just regular old bigotry.

I am confused by what a nazi is nowadays, could you please elaborate , doesn't look like a conventional one

 
I am confused by what a nazi is nowadays, could you please exploration, doesn't look like a conventional one


That guy might have planted the seed, but the Twitter account and the related attempts to spread awareness is a push by literal nazis on 4chan to try and get the LGB part to shun the QT+ part of the community.
 
That guy might have planted the seed, but the Twitter account and the related attempts to spread awareness is a push by literal nazis on 4chan to try and get the LGB part to shun the QT+ part of the community.

I was looking at the UK census and there's a section where you can identify as whatever you like and this was trending with it
 
I was looking at the UK census and there's a section where you can identify as whatever you like and this was trending with it
Not sure what you're going on about at this point. You know why it was called 'Super Straight' right? The clue is in the initials.
 
I am confused by what a nazi is nowadays, could you please elaborate , doesn't look like a conventional one


I'm always suspicious of people who go to elaborate lengths to prove how manly they are, inventing new sexualities and growing a pube-tache. Manly. Real man. Yep.
 
Not sure what you're going on about at this point. You know why it was called 'Super Straight' right? The clue is in the initials.

Yes, I know the SS attachment. Is that a reason you can't talk about it given its gaining traction on twitter?

Do you not know what a census is?
 
Yes, I know the SS attachment. Is that a reason you can't talk about it given its gaining traction on twitter?

Do you not know what a census is?
What's gaining traction on twitter? The SS thing was days ago and seems to have completely disappeared after it was quickly realised to be a nazi troll.

I know what a census is, yeah.
 
literal nazis, definitely not figurative ones.
As in "people who think gassing Jews was the right thing to do."

e: The word 'nazi' sees a lot of use these days, and often gets directed at not-actual-nazis. Thus I thought highlighting that I was talking about literal fecking nazis would be smart. Seems it didn't stop some dummy from trying to be clever.
 
What's gaining traction on twitter? The SS thing was days ago and seems to have completely disappeared after it was quickly realised to be a nazi troll.

I know what a census is, yeah.

Well, it hadn't, hence the post made on the 9th March
 
Typically you'd hope that if people realise something is a Nazi (like, actual Nazis) troll attempt they would then lose interest in it. Rather than think "hey, those Nazis were only messing around but they might have a good idea here" and continuing to promote the SS.
 
:lol:

I'm not sure Andrew fecking Doyle trying to make a joke counts as 'gaining traction'.

Of course it does, he has a big following and brought it to the attention of people who had never heard it before

I dont think you actually understand what I am saying about the census
 
Of course it does, he has a big following and brought it to the attention of people who had never heard it before

I dont think you actually understand what I am saying about the census
I don't. What the feck are you on about? How is some nazi meme relevant to the census?
 
I don't. What the feck are you on about? How is some nazi meme relevant to the census?

People are identifying as it in the upcoming census, if enough people do it, legally it gets recognised, and technically you can then be charged with a hate crime if you discriminate against anyone that identifys as it
 
People are identity as it in the upcoming census, if enough people do it, legally it gets recognised, and technically you can then be charged with a hate crime if you discriminate against anyone that identities as it
It doesn't. You've been deeply misled.
 
If you want to get technical about it, it gets brought up as possible legislation
It's not about technicalities. It's that answering stupid things on a census has never made a difference. Or Jedi would be a legally recognised religion.
 
It's not about technicalities. It's that answering stupid things on a census has never made a difference. Or Jedi would be a legally recognised religion.

But it was brought up to a commission to discuss it as a possible religion, it was rejected
 
And SS will be rejected if it comes up also. What's the issue.

Are you saying every single person that identify as that is doing it because they are Nazis as well? Isn't it like BLM, people rejecting all the stigma attached with it but agreeing with the defined message/slogan?
 
It seems a bit like the "all lives matter" of sexuality.
 
Are you saying every single person that identities as that is doing it because they are Nazis as well? Isn't it like BLM, people rejecting all the stigma attached with it but agreeing with the defined message/slogan?
Yes, this thing invented by nazis to splinter the LGBQT+ community, that apparently a bunch of absolute weapons are taking at face value, is like BLM. Totally.

Any and all of the dunces who looks at that and thinks "gee, i can get behind this" are at best transphobes. A normal, non-shit person wouldn't have the need for some special signifier to inform people that they're not really into trans people.
 
This literally just come out, not sure if the gender bit remains

Part of the census guidance for England and Wales accompanying the question on a person's sex should be withdrawn, a High Court judge has ordered.
Campaign group Fair Play for Women argued it unlawfully allowed "self-identification" as male or female.
The guidance said people can use the sex listed on their passport - which can be changed without a legal process.
The Office for National Statistics said it was asking the same question on sex it had done since 1801.
After a court hearing on Tuesday, Mr Justice Swift ruled that the guidance should be changed to say individuals should only respond with the answer on their birth certificate or gender recognition certificate - a document which allows trans people to change their legal gender.
A full judicial review will take place next week before the census day, but the judge made the interim order saying he was satisfied the campaign group was "more likely than not to succeed" on its case regarding the legal definition of "sex".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56338666
 
Yes, this thing invented by nazis to splinter the LGBQT+ community, that apparently a bunch of absolute weapons are taking at face value, is like BLM. Totally.

Any and all of the dunces who looks at that and thinks "gee, i can get behind this" are at best transphobes. A normal, non-shit person wouldn't have the need for some special signifier to inform people that they're not really into trans people.

It wasn't though, it was invented by a kid on tiktok and 4chan seemed to latch onto it given its initials.