Transformers Revenge of the Fallen

You seem upset about this.

Its a movie, based on a cartoon that was made to sell toys, and is about giant robots, that act like people and fight each other and blow things up....and your giving out because it didn't have a good plot or and enthralling story?

Get over it....its a leave your brain at the door movie sfx fest, your delusional beyond belief to expect anything other than that.

It doesn't pretend to be anything else since the whole idea behind it is ridiculous beyond belief.

I couldn't care less about the lack of a plot.

The problem was that despite being a film about giant robots who go around making things explode, it still managed to be boring, and, despite not having a plot, it still managed to be hard to follow, and pretty much a big mess.
 
Just watched it. Wasn't very good. No plot. Action was was pretty good when it did not involve multiple robots fighting in which case it just became really confusing. Megan fox was great though(even though she can't act).
 
Someone once described Megan Fox as having the looks of a porn star as well as the acting talent. I'd say that's fairly accurate.
 
Special effects excellent, lots and lots of bangs and explosions, couple of panty shots, poor acting, one fecking loud film. I can see why people love it and hate it at the same time, it was awful and it was great. Sometimes there is too much going on and sometimes too little going on.
 
Pros:
Plenty of cool action
Lots of welcome comic relief
Megan Fox -- very easy on the eyes

Cons:
Too long -- 2.5 hours, crikey
Robot fight sequences (and many action sequences for that matter) -- it's hard to tell what's going on because it's looks like a pile of junkyard metal being whirled around in a cyclone.
Acting and plot -- on the one hand, it's not what I was looking for. On the other hand, against the backdrop of other blockbusters like The Dark Knight, this movie falls woefully short.

A generous 7/10 simply because it's a popcorn flick in which I had very low expectations.
 
Way way way to long. Like over an hour to long (probably because half the scenes were in slow motion), I thought it wouldn't end.

To many human characters too, the Autobots are there basically to shoot things in action scenes and do nothing else while everything centers around shitty Sam and the others, Optimus wasn't even in half the film.

Boring film, 4/10
 
Pros:
Plenty of cool action
Lots of welcome comic relief
Megan Fox -- very easy on the eyes

Cons:
Too long -- 2.5 hours, crikey
Robot fight sequences (and many action sequences for that matter) -- it's hard to tell what's going on because it's looks like a pile of junkyard metal being whirled around in a cyclone.
Acting and plot -- on the one hand, it's not what I was looking for. On the other hand, against the backdrop of other blockbusters like The Dark Knight, this movie falls woefully short.

A generous 7/10 simply because it's a popcorn flick in which I had very low expectations.
Way too much comedy for my liking.
 
Not really understanding people saying that there wasn't a plot... albeit for the first hour and a half nothing much happened, then it took one ancient robot to explain the story and then they acted it out. There was a definite storyline, it was just a bit shabby.

The robot fight sequences weren't that great, sometimes it was hard to tell who was fighting whom.

Way too many cheesy lines as well.

However, I really enjoyed it :nervous:
 
Was it just me or was everything Optimus Prime said, a dramatic one liner?
 
Saw it earlier tonight, and I thought it was tremendous.

Firstly I'd just like to say only an idiot wouldn't have been able to follow the story.

And for those who are complaining about a lack of a plot, did you realise it's a movie about HUGE FARQING ROBOTS FIGHTING EACH OTHER? I mean did anyone else notice those huge things blowing shit up? Because I'm pretty sure you don't need some deep seeded plot with political undercurrents when BIG FARQING ROBOTS ARE KICKING THE SHIT OUT OF EACH OTHER WITH SHIT GETTING BLOWN UP.

An really, what more plot do you need than - 'bad guy wants something the good guy has, needs said thing to commit extra bad deeds. Fighting ensues' - when coupling it with the above?

The effects were amazing, and the sound was simply incredible. I'm excited for the future of movies simply because of the quality animation and sound. Though the one thing I didn't like out of it was the parents being at the final battle, it was pointless and didn't make sense. I mean if the Decepticons were going to use them as bait then fair enough, but they didn't, and all of a sudden they were just there too. Rubbish decision on the directors part there.
 
Went to see this earlier and enjoyed it. Terrible movie, but I've always been a bit of a Transformers nerd, and really liked it. It could have been 30 minutes shorter though!
 
And for the people stressing about differences from the animated original - IT WAS A 30 MINUTE TOY ADVERT FFS.

I saw a review of the film that put forward that even though the source material is a glorified toy advertisement the Transformers film still cost 200 million dollars and with that kind of money you should be able to produce a good, if not neccasarily amazing film. It also argued that the kid's show and comic books may have just existed to sell toys but they still had enough quality in them to be decent kid's shows and comic books. I think that's a fairly good point.

Look at the Dark Knight, whatever it's qualities it remains a summer blockbuster based on a comic book about a millionaire in a bat costume. Yet because the right people were attatched to the project and because those people put in any effort it was a huge critical success.
 
Saw this the other day and I thought it was terrible.

I don't know why it's so popular. What's so interesting about robots fighting anyway? The novelty wears out after the second fight scene.

the only saving grace was Megan Fox.
 
Saw it earlier tonight, and I thought it was tremendous.

Firstly I'd just like to say only an idiot wouldn't have been able to follow the story.

And for those who are complaining about a lack of a plot, did you realise it's a movie about HUGE FARQING ROBOTS FIGHTING EACH OTHER? I mean did anyone else notice those huge things blowing shit up? Because I'm pretty sure you don't need some deep seeded plot with political undercurrents when BIG FARQING ROBOTS ARE KICKING THE SHIT OUT OF EACH OTHER WITH SHIT GETTING BLOWN UP.

An really, what more plot do you need than - 'bad guy wants something the good guy has, needs said thing to commit extra bad deeds. Fighting ensues' - when coupling it with the above?

The effects were amazing, and the sound was simply incredible. I'm excited for the future of movies simply because of the quality animation and sound. Though the one thing I didn't like out of it was the parents being at the final battle, it was pointless and didn't make sense. I mean if the Decepticons were going to use them as bait then fair enough, but they didn't, and all of a sudden they were just there too. Rubbish decision on the directors part there.

Have to agree.

Finally took the nephew to see it this evening and quite enjoyed it.Great special effects and brilliant action scenes.

Also a lot of complaints i've heard on the film just really we're not that bad to be honest.

I was also disappointed at how little we saw of Optimus fighting or kicking any ass from the first film, hell he does not disappoint in this.

Don't care about a good plot, nor a particulary fluid storyline(I knew there wouldn't be much there before i even bought my ticket) cheesey lines or some good and bad bits of humour. Its a popcorn flick, there to dazzle you with special effects and make you feel like your 7 years old again and that it did well. It does what it says on the tin
 
:lol: I've been reading all his posts thinking they were yours. Thought your tone had changed, just figured it was a mid-life crisis.
 
Have to agree.

Finally took the nephew to see it this evening and quite enjoyed it.Great special effects and brilliant action scenes.

Also a lot of complaints i've heard on the film just really we're not that bad to be honest.

I was also disappointed at how little we saw of Optimus fighting or kicking any ass from the first film, hell he does not disappoint in this.

Don't care about a good plot, nor a particulary fluid storyline(I knew there wouldn't be much there before i even bought my ticket) cheesey lines or some good and bad bits of humour. Its a popcorn flick, there to dazzle you with special effects and make you feel like your 7 years old again and that it did well. It does what it says on the tin

Pretty much sums up my review, replace nephew with girlfriend and this evening with last night.

The 2 "ghetto" robots were great, alot of uproar about them because of the "racial" influence, but it confuses me because, for feck sakes, they're ROBOTS... since when were there black or white Robots... as far as i'm concerned, Optimus Prime is James Earl Jones in robot form :lol:.

Megan Fox is fine as hell, but sweet fecking shit she is annoying as hell in this film... visually obviously she makes my girlfriend roll her eyes when i'm paying attention, but she's a shit actress.

I will agree with the assessment that it was too long though, kind of dragged along the dirt with useless plots and silly humor, I know the target audience is trying to KO all demographics while toying on the thin line between PG and an "mature-themed" film, I must say though they failed with this one as opposed to the first.

6/10, in contrast to an 8/10 i'd give the first.
 
I'm looking for the key word in that sentance folks.

I know more white folks that talk and act like that then black folks, it's comedy how the media are blowing it up.

is it 'are'?

Do you know what a white person acting like that is called... a wigga... do you know why?
 
is it 'are'?

Do you know what a white person acting like that is called... a wigga... do you know why?

Because apparently all black folks are "Niggas" but white people can't be "Niggas" because their skin isn't dark enough.

Wigga, chav, wannabe, poser, etc... yes, i'm not an idiot.

But not all black folks act like ignorant, un-educated fecks... ignorance has no color, which is why these robots were hilarious comedy relief.

I just wish folks would look at these dumbass robots as dumbasses, not "Black" robots... like I said, Optimus Prime is James Earl Jones :lol:
 
Because apparently all black folks are "Niggas" but white people can't be "Niggas" because their skin isn't dark enough.

Wigga, chav, wannabe, poser, etc... yes, i'm not an idiot.

But not all black folks act like ignorant, un-educated fecks... ignorance has no color, which is why these robots were hilarious comedy relief.

I just wish folks would look at these dumbass robots as dumbasses, not "Black" robots... like I said, Optimus Prime is James Earl Jones :lol:

Like i said they are a stereotype... do you know what a stereotype is?

hint: not sony or casio ;)

Nigga is slang for Negro, which means black... so yes white people can't be 'niggas' in this sense.
 
Everyone, this has the potential to turn into a fifty page race thread. Stand by to evacuate the internet.
 
Had all the ingredients to be a great movie but Michael Bay just doesn't seem to know how to meld stuff together. He just likes to blow shit up. Didn't realise he was responsible for Pearl Harbour, The Island and Bad Boys as well. Surprised Hollywood still comes a-knocking, to be honest.

That said, I still really enjoyed it. Preferred the comedy/love story to the action in the end.
 
Had all the ingredients to be a great movie but Michael Bay just doesn't seem to know how to meld stuff together. He just likes to blow shit up. Didn't realise he was responsible for Pearl Harbour, The Island and Bad Boys as well. Surprised Hollywood still comes a-knocking, to be honest.

That said, I still really enjoyed it. Preferred the comedy/love story to the action in the end.
No matter how bad his movies are, they always make the studio that makes them boat loads of money.
 
Absolutely appallingly, mind-rottingly bad movie. Someone needs to put Michael Bay out of his (and our) misery and for God's sake somebody stop him from making such shit movies.
The imdb summary (now sadly removed) pretty much sums up everything that is so very wrong about this movie. For those who didn't read that summary before it was deleted, here it is:

(Stolen from imdb):
Are there honestly 46 new Transformers in the movie?

I have no fecking clue. It's impossible to tell most of them apart except for Optimus and the Racist Twins (there's another yellow Autobot who I constantly thought was Bumblebee). There could be 46, or there could be 12. I honestly would believe 12 if someone had said that.

What is the status of the Transformers at the beginning of the film?

The Autobots have joined the military to hunt down the Decepticons. We're told the Decepticons are "doing things," but they appear to be hiding peacefully when the Autobots show up and brutally murder them.

What?

Yeah. The Decepticons aren't apparently doing anything, then the Autobots show up, the Decepticons run for their goddamn lives, and the Autobots hunt them down and brutally murder them. It's kind of weird.

Why is the U.S. military helping them?

Supposedly to help keep the Transformers a secret from the public. Although since the climax of the last film was a massive firefight involving 50-foot robots and took place over five miles of downtown Los Angeles and the beginning of this film wrecks several miles of Shanghai, China, they seem to be incredibly shitty at their job.

How does the U.S. military help them?

Well, not at all, actually. They just kind of come along with guns and stuff, and act like they're going to help, but the Autobots do all the work.

Why is the U.S. military in this movie at all, then?

Because Michael Bay has a huge erection for jets and tanks and aircraft carriers and considers giant robots only a necessary evil for the film. At least 15 full minutes of the film's 150-minute run time is nothing but footage of jets and tanks and planes without any robots or actual action whatsoever.

How is Sam Witwicky dragged back into the fight?

Well, he finds a fragment of the Allspark shard. You know, the Allspark that he spent all last movie being told he shouldn't give to Megatron, but when he gave it to Megatron, it killed Megatron. That one. Anyways, the shard makes the Beef see symbols and act like more of an spaz than usual.

So the Decepticons want the shard? Why?

Uh... to bring Megatron back to life?

What?

That's what they said.

But the Allspark killed Megatron in the first movie.

Yes.

...and now it can also bring him back to life.

It's very powerful, this Allspark.

Uh-huh. So what's their plan to get it?

They send a small R/C car who talks like Joe Pesci in Casino to get it.

Shouldn't they have sent Starscream or somebody?

Look, there's another Allspark shard and get that one anyways, so it doesn't matter.

Well, then why do they give a feck about Sam?

The symbols. In his head. That the shard of the Allspark gave him.

They weren't in the other shard?

Apparently not.

So how do the Decepticons plan to get the symbols, I guess?

Well, the Decepticons have very cunningly created a hot chick robot who they enrolled in the same college and put in the same astronomy class as Sam. And they made her a huge slut.

Wait.

Waiting.

There's a slutty Decepticon?

Yeah, she's a real ho. The Decepticons apparently have an incredibly powerful slut-making program, because she has it down, man. Anyways--

Didn't Sam touch the shard and get the symbols stuck in his head on his first day of college?

Yes.

So the Decepticons made a slutty robot to attend his college and enrolled her in classes and put her in on-campus housing just in case Sam ended up being important at some point in the future?

Apparently. It was an elaborate plan, but it sure paid off.

How so?

Well, not at all. The slut-bot made out with him for a little bit then immediately tried to kill him, neither for any apparent motive or gain.

It sounds preposterous.

Doesn't matter, because the Decepticons use the shard piece they do have to resurrect Megatron! He's back! Ooo! Scary!

Why is this scary? All he wanted was the Allspark, and now it's gone.

...because he has a boss! He's called the Fallen, because he's so evil! He has an evil plan to use a machine on Earth to blow up the sun and make energon! Or something! It's not very clear.

Now you're just making shit up as you go along, aren't you?

Best not to think too much about it. Anyways, the symbols in the Beef's head are a map to where this machine exists, so the hunt is on and Sam shortly is captured by other, less slutty Decepticons in one of the many instances where Bumblebee inexplicably abandons the Beef so he can conveniently be in trouble.
Then a robot called the Doctor who speaks gibberish with a German accent shoves things up Shia's nose and gets the symbols.

That's that, then, right? The Decepticons win?

No! Because Optimus Prime saves Sam before they cut off his head, which has another treasure inside!

Really? What is that?

No one really bothers to explain this, actually. Suffice to say, the Decepticons continue to want Sam. Oh, then Optimus Prime fights three Decepticons at once and dies.

Where the hell were the other Autobots during this fight?

I don't know. They were with him before the fight, but then they disappear and show up right after he dies. But they appear sad about Optimus dying. Marginally. I mean, they don't get any screen time or dialogue to convey any feelings or anything, but there's some sad music playing for a little bit afterwards. I assume this means the robots that are off-screen are grieving.

Well, if one shard brought Megatron back to life, can't Sam just use his shard piece to resurrect Optimus?

Yes. He could.

...

...

Well?

He doesn't.

Why not?

I'm not sure exactly.

Then what the hell does he do?

He decides get those symbols that were in his head translated to figure out what the Fallen's up to.

Which Autobot does the translating?

Err... none of them. Actually, it's John Turturro.

What. The feck?

Yeah, since he was laid off from his super-secret government agent job, he now works in a NY deli and runs a super-popular Transformers conspiracy theory website. Like ya do.

And why couldn't an Autobot translate these symbols?

Because Bumblebee is mute and the Racist Twins are poor black robots from the slums of Cybertron who never learned how to read. It's a sad commentary on Cybertronian society. Like The Wire, actually.

Where the hell are the other Autobots?

I don't know. Away. They seem to be unable to be reached. They're probably grieving about Optimnus still. Clearly, John Turturro is the reasonable solution here.

So Turturro translates the symbols.

No, that would be silly. He does, in an incredibly bizarre series of connect-the-dots, lead them to Jetfire, an elderly and deceased Transformers whose corpse is hanging out in the Air & Space Museum.

What good is he dead?!

Ah! Remember the shard? Sam uses it to bring Jetfire back to life!

Not Optimus?

No! This way, Sam can get the symbols translated... so he can, er... find the ancient machine... that can, uh... possibly bring Optimus back to life.

You have to fecking be kidding me.
 
continued...
Moving on! Jetfire teleports everyone to Egypt, including some of the missing Autobots --

Wait, what? Teleports?

Yes, teleports.

Transformers don't teleport.

Jetfire does.

But -- wait a second, he's a fecking jet. He could fly everybody to Egypt, right? And that would make perfect sense for both the character and the franchise!

Well, I guess so. But he chooses not to. The point is Jetfire teleports them all to Egypt where he explains that there used to be 7 or 8 Primes, and they traveled around the galaxy blowing up suns for energon. But they never did it on planets with life. Well, they had set the machine up on Earth and not noticed all the life running around, and one of the Primes just said feck it, let's do it anyways. This was evil, so they called that Prime the Fallen and beat the shit out of him although he escaped.

Okay...

So that other mysterious reason that the Decepticons wanted Sam's brain? It's because it contains some very vague clues about the Matrix of Leadership, which is the device that turns on the sun-exploding machine. The Fallen needs the Matrix to blow up the sun and get his Energon.

Hold on. That's what the Matrix of Leadership does in the movie?

Yes. Works the sun-exploding machine.

I'm fuzzy on how "Leadership" covers that.

I didn't name it. But it does sound a little nicer than "Matrix of Blowing Up the Goddamn Sun." If I may continue, in order to protect the Earth, the 6-7 other Prime hid the Matrix on Earth and made a tomb with their own bodies. Isn't that cool?

...

...

No. No it is not. If they wanted to protect Earth, why did they leave the Matrix on the planet? They're a space-faring race, they could have hid it anywhere in galaxy! Second of all, what the hell does making a tomb of their own bodies do? Shouldn't they have stayed alive to protect the Matrix? Or finish off the Fallen? Or just not die and leave Earth and the entire Transformer race in jeopardy?

Uh...

And why hide the Matrix at all? Don't they need Energon to survive? Didn't they say they go to other lifeless planets? These idiot Primes just doomed their whole species for no fecking reason whatsoever! No wonder the Decepticons are so pissed.

...ahem. Eventually, Sam and crew find the Matrix, which instantly crumbles into dust. Sam puts the dust in a sock because he thinks it will bring Optimus back to life.

Grr.

What follows is the most spectacular part of the movie, as Sam and Mikaela try to run the several miles back to the military camp during a massive Decepticon attack where the military has dropped Optimus Prime's corpse.

Why is that awesome? They could drive back in one of the Autobots and be there in a minute or two.

They don't do that.

What?

They walk.

Of course they do. And I assume the Autobots just mysteriously disappear again until a second before a Decepticon is about to kill Sam.

Yes. Exactly.

I am already incredibly sick of this movie, and I'm just typing questions about it. Sam resurrects Optimus, Optimus kills the Fallen, end of story, right?

Pretty close. Sam dies, though.

Really?

Yeah, for a little while. But then the Transformers in heaven send him back because he still has work to do.

feck you.

I'm serious.

feck you. There's no way.

It's true. The 6-7 Primes are there in the clouds like Mufasa's head in The Lion King, and tell Sam he's awesome and he needs to live again so he can bring Optimus back to life.

I may be ill.

Then Jetfire appears out of nowhere and rips out his own heart right in front of Optimus to give him his elderly old robot powers. This makes Optimus into a flying badass who defeats the Megatron and Starscream and the Fallen in a little less than two minutes. After the last 30 minutes of the movie have been nothing but explosions -- not all of which have any obvious causes -- it's a bit disappointing.


Anything else you want to add?

Well, only that although Sam jams the Matrix of Leadership into Optimus Prime's chest to resurrect him, a Decepticon takes it out like 10 seconds later and Optimus is fine. Just a little weird, is all.

Can you give me any reason I would want to see this film in theaters?

I can't answer every question, man.

BONUS ROUND!

So it's not as bad as shitting your pants?

Marginally. I honestly had to make a pro and con list to figure it out.

Why on earth would anyone make a film about giant robots but have myriad scenes of some random douchebag's first day of college?

I don't have the faintest clue.

Could there have been more trite, less inspired song for Bumblebee to play when Sam says he's going to college than The Pointer Sisters' "I'm So Excited"?

No. No there couldn't.

Why can't Bumblebee talk, but the other Autobots can?

Because Bumblebee is retarded, but in a Sling Blade kind of a way. This explains how he kills the living feck out of a Decepticon later.

Why does Sam's mom buy and consume a pot brownie?

Well, Sam's mom was in a coma for the last 30+ years, which explains how she had never heard of marijuana, and why she didn't understand the consequences of eating it even after her husband specifically told her it was a pot brownie (Sam was unfortunately conceived and born during this period). A better question is why any college student in America would be selling pot brownies at an on-campus bake sale, let alone to a middle-aged woman.

A lot was made of how Shia the Beef's hand injury was written into the film. How was this done?


Well, sometimes Shia had a huge bandage on his hand, and sometimes he didn't.

That doesn't sound "written in" at all.

Well, no actual words are used to explain it. It might be more accurate to say it "shows up sometimes."

Why would a robot need to fart, pee, or vomit? And why would it need testicles?

Michael Bay does not understand what a robot is.

What is the point of the character of Sam's college roommate, and why the feck does he stay for the entirety of the movie?

I have no clue. He's not comedy relief, because that's covered by 90% of the Transformers themselves. He technically leads the Beef to John Turturro, but surely there could have been another way to do that. Besides, Turturro just leads them to Jetfire anyways. It's all extraneous.

Why can only a Prime kill the Fallen? Why can Jetfire teleport? Why can the Fallen wave a staff and make shit fly around? Why do actual cars and Autobots get sucked into Devastator's maw, but John Turturro and that other kid can run around?

Because... because feck YOU, that's why.

Can you explain Megan Fox's appeal?

Yes. She looks like a porn star and has the same acting talent as one, yet for some reason she makes mainstream movies. This tonal disconnect is what's so appealing about her.

If you had to pick a single scene that exemplifies Michael Bay's utter disdain for story and continuity, what would it be?

When five Decepticons sink to the bottom of the ocean to retrieve Megatron's corpse. A submarine tracks five "subjects" going down, and when they get there, one of the Decepticons is killed to give parts to Megatron. 5 -1 *** = 5, right? No, because the sub somehow tracks "six" subjects coming up. Not only is this very basic math, this is the simplest of script errors. It could not possibly have been more than one page apart in the script. And yet Michael Bay either didn't care to notice or didn't give a feck. "Math? Math is for pussies. My movies are about shit blowing up, man."

Could you sum up the film in one line of its dialogue?

"I am standing directly beneath the enemy's scrotum."
 
And why couldn't an Autobot translate these symbols?

Because Bumblebee is mute

Didnt he get his voice back in the first one or something? But lol at that summary it was very fitting for the movie!

Overall i thought for acting/storyline it was somewhat lacking but in terms of CGI it was awesome. TBH i quite enjoyed it for what it was, a action movie with lots of slow motion explosions and Megan Fox as a actor...
 
:lol: At the Q&A for the movie but I really liked it even if I noticed all of these things. It is a fun movie with giant robots fighting that look real, with massive guns, explosions and of course with state of the art sound effects. I didn't care about the plot and even when certain things started bothering me, Megan Fox would come up and they wouldn't matter any more! Ain't she amazing? :drool: