Transfer Tweets - Summer 2017 | Keep it on topic

Odd that nobody ever brings up age when talking about this deal. Its supposedly a big issue with Matic and Perisic
Because he has the name and the profile. People seem to fall in love with the idea of players. Matic and Perisic don’t seem as exotic, therefore are criticised more. Nainggolan is older than both and has won less than both yet is held in higher regard.
 
it's odd that no major team is in for Auba, a striker who is pretty much at the top of his game, and has been salivated over time and again on Redcafe over the last few years. What is it? it's not his performances, because they're very good; is it something personal like an off-pitch attitude? have scouts caught wind of something troubling about his character?

For the price he's rumoured available at, coupled with the fact that he's at his peak, it seems odd that he's seemingly not going anywhere.
 
Oh Chelsea beat us to him after we pushed hard late on, look how great Chelsea are again. This will be the narrative.
 
it's odd that no major team is in for Auba, a striker who is pretty much at the top of his game, and has been salivated over time and again on Redcafe over the last few years. What is it? it's not his performances, because they're very good; is it something personal like an off-pitch attitude? have scouts caught wind of something troubling about his character?

For the price he's rumoured available at, coupled with the fact that he's at his peak, it seems odd that he's seemingly not going anywhere.
He doesn’t suit any of the top clubs. He’s the perfect player to take advantage of Dortmund’s play. Put him in any other team and he will struggle to replicate his form. He’s not a very well rounded player but he has an eye for a goal.
think he'd thrive in epl imo. Rattle them in
I don’t see anything about his game to suggest that. He’s the complete opposite of what Chelsea play with upfront. No other team need a striker for the money Dortmund want and the wages he would demand.
 
We'll probably sign Matic by next weekend.
Wouldn't surprise me. Matt Law says he desperately wants out, but Chelsea would prefer to see him outside the league. Inter were linked, I believe.
 
Just waiting for Matt Law to tell us how Chelsea beat us to his signature and what a massive coup it is.
 
I've read that Chelsea will "refuse" selling him to us because of Lukaku. Would be petty if true but who knows.
More london media mafia bias...

Lukaku confirmed he was signing for united months ago, there was no real gazumping, he never actually prefered to go to chelsea only his agent chose united for the dosh that was made up, they were wrong and trying to save face. Thus they are not actually angry at anything more than we narrowed down their options in who is available.
 
I've read that Chelsea will "refuse" selling him to us because of Lukaku. Would be petty if true but who knows.
Probably goes deeper than the Lukaku signing. I think Jose is trolling Chelsea with the Matic interest.
 
it's odd that no major team is in for Auba, a striker who is pretty much at the top of his game, and has been salivated over time and again on Redcafe over the last few years. What is it? it's not his performances, because they're very good; is it something personal like an off-pitch attitude? have scouts caught wind of something troubling about his character?

For the price he's rumoured available at, coupled with the fact that he's at his peak, it seems odd that he's seemingly not going anywhere.

Auba is a weird one for me. Granted he scored plenty of goals over the past few years but he's a bit like Cavani/Higuain in that whenever you see him play (unless you're a regular watcher of Dortmund/PSG/Juve) he never performs and misses a hatful of chances.

I wouldn't want him for £60m or whatever the reported price is. Lop £20m off it and maybe.
 
Auba is a weird one for me. Granted he scored plenty of goals over the past few years but he's a bit like Cavani/Higuain in that whenever you see him play (unless you're a regular watcher of Dortmund/PSG/Juve) he never performs and misses a hatful of chances.

I wouldn't want him for £60m or whatever the reported price is. Lop £20m off it and maybe.
Im pretty sure hes scored 44 out of 49 chances. (Fairly close to those stats).
 
I wish people will stop suggesting Herrera as a DM. Yes he can play the role but it is so limiting for such a guy who is actually very good going forward. He was not a DM in Spain and has not primarily played as a DM for United. His best moments for us have been when he has been allowed to move box to box or man mark a dangerous opponent. In the former (and even latter like in the Chelsea game) he produced match winning assists. Jose has used him brilliantly so far. Herrera has been the guy defending for Pogba and attacking for Carrick while serving as a back up DM when needed. Tying him down permanently to a DM role will seriously limit him if you ask me. Also, when you observe Herrera carefully, you will notice that compared to the attacking side of his game, his defending is average. He is a very good tackler no doubt but defending is a whole lot more than tackling.

Where we have no choice, sure, I will play Herrera in a DM role and he will do a decent job. But if I can get a specialist DM, that will be my first option.
Well, don't wanna be a party pooper, but Herrera started like 25 games as #6 and 16 as #8, so… you're wrong.
 
Well, don't wanna be a party pooper, but Herrera started like 25 games as #6 and 16 as #8, so… you're wrong.

Where did you get these stats from? They don't seem right at all
 
Where did you get these stats from? They don't seem right at all
New counting, 23 as #6, 18 as #8 or other (like chasing Hazard all over the pitch). (I had misplaced some Carrick's, sorry). Same shit, Herrera definitely played more games as #6. Personal records, collected week after week. But, if you find worth the trouble, check, for instance, these.
 
New counting, 23 as #6, 18 as #8 or other (like chasing Hazard all over the pitch). (I had misplaced some Carrick's, sorry). Same shit, Herrera definitely played more games as #6. Personal records, collected week after week. But, if you find worth the trouble, check, for instance, these.

Not going to check through all those I prefer to use what I saw when watching.

Herrera mostly played in a midfield 2 with Pogba. When paired with Fellani the formation became lopsided and Herrera played deepest however, that's the only time I'd say he played as a 6.

When paired with just Pogba or on a 3 with Pogba and Carrick he played as an 8.
 
Not going to check through all those I prefer to use what I saw when watching.

Herrera mostly played in a midfield 2 with Pogba. When paired with Fellani the formation became lopsided and Herrera played deepest however, that's the only time I'd say he played as a 6.

When paired with just Pogba or on a 3 with Pogba and Carrick he played as an 8.
That's a good qualitative description of what I quantitatively stated, in numbers. Yeah.

No, sorry, when played in a midfield two with Pogba, you have to admit he was #6.
 
That's a good qualitative description of what I quantitatively stated, in numbers. Yeah.

No, sorry, when played in a midfield two with Pogba, you have to admit he was #6.

Not really as more often than not he was paired solely with Pogba or with Pogba and Carrick.

It was less often that he was paired with Pogba and Fellani
 
Not really as more often than not he was paired solely with Pogba or with Pogba and Carrick.

It was less often that he was paired with Pogba and Fellani
The only midfield player who played deepest than Herrera is Carrick, point (if you except freak situations like Fellaini almost third centerback against Burnley away). That means Herrera played the deepest midfielder than not, quantitatively, in numbers… against what you intuitively stated.
 
The only midfield player who played deepest than Herrera is Carrick, point (if you except freak situations like Fellaini almost third centerback against Burnley away). That means Herrera played the deepest midfielder than not, quantitatively, in numbers… against what you intuitively stated.

Not really. You can play with two 8s in a 4231. Anyways let's leave this thread now anyway. Tag me in Herreras thread if you want to carry this on.
 
Disagree, it's good. One year left on his contract, hasn't done anything noteworthy in the past three years (1 league goal against the worst team in the league). Good talent but not amazing IMO. I wish him luck.

Easy decision for JM.