This makes no sense... They can't even use him until Jan so where's the desperation coming from?
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This makes no sense... They can't even use him until Jan so where's the desperation coming from?
More like Chelsea are desperate to offload him.
Read it as Qui Ca instead of Oui Ca in French my bad, Oui Ca means Yes this.
I'm curious to know with what players we could have done better than Carrick? Because I'm incredulous at what you've said.
However, if you really meant that we could have done better in surrounding Michael with better midfielders to protect him and complement his game better, that I can agree with. He's the best English CM of the last decade and if we stretch back further outside Scholes and maybe Gerrard.
Bakayoko is trash and youre hardly going to feel overwhelmed by a CB and a CDM signing.
Lukaku was good for me though
Lukaku was good for me though
I'm in favour of this signing. Was on the fence about it, but he's a natural wide player with a good mentality and will provide the sort of service we lacked last season. Not just a workhorse, but will defend from the front. I guess the fee is the only point of contention, if our interest is legit.
Carrick was always impressive with his reading of the game and passing off either foot when he was with Spurs. Can't see the same with Dier. I rather play TFM or Axel.
Lukaku & Perisic are still okay by me but Dier? Come on - what exactly does Dier offer to our midfield?
He's a much better tackler than anyone we have in our midfield.
No, I meant exactly what you read. I don't know what i've said that's so unfathomable, Carrick ended up being a good player but its not like he's an all time great, there's been some revisioning regarding carrick's quality, especially on this forum and in the past few years. Dude went from under appreciated in his early years to being grossly overrated, somehow his legend just took an amazing uptake to levels that just aren't true, its a curious case really. @Balu articulated some of my thoughts in a different thread:
Guy sounds like a moron. His backpassing to rivals is also moronic. Does he have any redeeming qualities?
I appreciate the opinion that both of you have, but of course disagree. I have an admitted United bias especially considering nostalgia of some of United's (recent-ish) best football coming with Carrick at the core. I think the difference in our expectation in him and reality is defined by the kind of midfielder you're comparing him to. I never expected him to be a Keane or Robson. A more similar contemporary to gage against might be Xabi Alonso, Kroos or in effect some hybrid of Xavi and Busquets rolled into one. And yet even in his Spurs days he did take games 'by the scruff' including good teams like an Arsenal with Vieira marshaling it.
The swing from under rating to perhaps excessive praise here and elsewhere probably occurred around the time fans stopped viewing Carrick in the shadow of Keane. Helped by winning title after title and Chsmpions League. If anything, not being able to come on top against arguably one of the most successful CM trios in Xavi, Busq and Iniesta is used too heavy handidly as a black mark on Carricks whole career. And that's one of those instances where it was the team and tactics as a whole. I mean, we had Park single handedly take out Pirlo...doesn't make him any less of a player.
Anyway Too long a reply and too much thoughtful discussion between us for the Transfer Tweet thread. Don't want to enrage the muppets!
Axel is made for the holding midfielder role. So composed, good vision, pace to burn. He could quickly grow into that role, if given the chance.
A solid, mobile stopper so Pogba can focus on attacking.
We're looking to close out the Perisic deal but still around 10m short of valuation of Inter. How does that work out then?
Someone will budge probably and it'll end up getting done.
Ideally? Ideally, we suddenly brief the press that we've agreed a fee with Arsenal for Sanchez and are no longer interested in Perisic. Realistically, we agree a midway point with Inter with some stuff linked of performances etc. and close this out.
It says in the article that Inter are really pissed of with us due to the fact that we kept on lowballing them with offers in hope that they've to accept it due to FFP restrictions. It's funny how alternative options for every other position we're pursuing have been leaked in media for eg Keane for Lindelof, Matic/Bakayoko/Dier for DM, Lukaku/Morata for ST but with LW, apart from Perisic the media doesn't have any clue.
Hoping for Woody magic on this one.
Be a good signing but for an insanely high price.
Not quite 100M but maybe the Gareth Bale windfall...?
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Big difference between Giggs and Januzaj was that the former was managed by Sir Alex at a relatively settled time for both manager and club. Giggsy himself encouraged Januzaj to take up the number. Talent-wise, it was not that big a difference.
Agree about Memphis though.
These prices are just getting ridiculous. If we are chasing a player there is 100% inflation on the transfer fee.
Just paper talk, let's see what actually happens. I suspect nothing will happen.
Talent wise was a huge difference.
Giggs the most exciting youth we have ever had, and Januzaj .....well.
Luckhurst knows about as much as me = nothing. He's just been guessing for weeks, twisting his words every couple of weeks to fit his current narrative. He really is one of the worst journalists out there at the moment, alongside Delaney who has really been shown up during this transfer period as someone who knows feck all, despite acting the "know it all guy" on Twitter all the fecking time.
I wish people would stop moaning about who we are signing. Just because they want a name for the back of their shirts. If Jose thinks these are the right players then so be it. Stop trying to do his job for him.
Just sounds like more gossip. Like the turd journalists who said Morata left his honeymoon early etc.
Lol not bieng funny but the big difference is talent not who they were managed by. Giggs was electric when he first come on the scene. Januzaj had 2 good performances and that's it. Giggs would of been great whoever he was managed by.
Sounds like Aubameyang has been offered to everyone at some point and no one wants him.
If there's any truth in that, Chelsea would be mad to turn it down. He's a guaranteed goal machine and adds an extra dimension to their attack with his pace and runs which Costa didn't have.
So we're gonna spend more or less a combined 100m on Dire and Perisic? For that amount we could get most players in the world. They're not better than what we've got. If we do sign them it'll probably kill all my enthusiasm for the upcoming season and not even our shiny new striker would keep us from finishing 6th again.
How likely do we reckon Dier is? Should I start brainwashing myself into liking him yet?
The poster above you has brainwashed himself, you might as well do it yourself.