Angelinho
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Mourinho is taking a leaf out of Moyes's book in signing his old players. At least he has better ones to chose from.
Yeah, that's exactly why they're pining for Fabinho, an equally limited holding midfielder.
I think Conte would gladly keep Matic here as a squad player. It seems though that Matic himself wouldn't be happy with that role and the rumored £40m is too much for the club to refuse.It doesn't matter how good you are positionally when you move like your legs are made of glue covered led, he's already past his best and not good enough on the ball either, he's a desperate buy from a manager afraid to try something new and looking for the crutches of the past, it's quite obvious Conte knows he's not good enough as he's fine with binning him.
no he isn't. Fabinho is a more all action and progressive player then Matic.
Matic is disciplined, fairly risk averse, strong aerially and reads the game well while Fabinho is a tackler and tries to play a pass/final ball more often.
We will not win CL again before we get some world class game changers. And we will not even win PL before we upgrade team a lot. Matic is just slight upgrage and is past of his peak already. Soon he will be average, if he's not already.
We should aim to same where we were 2008. And gap between us and toptop teams is not going get smaller with players like Matic. We should do better. Where are this years "Pogbas" and "Zlatans"? Most of fans will be really dissapointed to summer if Matic, Perisic and Morata are our new signings. It's not even near what we need to compete with Real and Bayern, other huge clubs like United.
I think Conte would gladly keep Matic here as a squad player. It seems though that Matic himself wouldn't be happy with that role and the rumored £40m is too much for the club to refuse.
If a manager like Mou wants him (again!) he obviously feels like he'll be great for you guys. That's why I as a Chelsea fan would be pissed if it happens.
We used to have Fergie now we have Mou.You do realise we used to compete on all fronts with fletcher, anderson, nani, cleverley and park ji sung you guys need to get off the galatico signings.
I think Conte would gladly keep Matic here as a squad player. It seems though that Matic himself wouldn't be happy with that role and the rumored £40m is too much for the club to refuse.
If a manager like Mou wants him (again!) he obviously feels like he'll be great for you guys. That's why I as a Chelsea fan would be pissed if it happens.
Valencia is not the best RB in the league. No chance he is better then Walker. I'd say Bellerin is better as well.
Defensively he's far, far better than both
Valencia has to improve his crossing to become the best RB in the league IMO.
He's one of the top players in the league when it comes to crossing accuracy. It's the numpties on the other end of them that don't put them away enough. Guess that is why you have this perception.
His crossing is rubbish. He mostly just smashes it in to the shins of a defender.
He was a below average cog in a great machine last season and a crucial aspect in their 10th place finish the season before.
Don't we have Herrera and Pogba for further forward.
A lot of last season we were screaming out for a guy to unlock those 2. One who wasn't 35!
He's there or there abouts. Had a much better season than Bellerin and is superior to Walker defensively. I posted this in response to one numpty saying he was just a failed winger.
Yep.
The stats would disagree with that. One of those fan perceptions that won't die.
Credit where it's due. Your posts are very consistent in this thread. Consistently terrible.
It doesn't matter how good you are positionally when you move like your legs are made of glue covered led, he's already past his best and not good enough on the ball either, he's a desperate buy from a manager afraid to try something new and looking for the crutches of the past, it's quite obvious Conte knows he's not good enough as he's fine with binning him.
The obsession with Fabinho is quite striking. I doubt many posters have even seen more than 2/3 games in the Champions Leagues with him involved. I would rather trust Jose's eye.
The obsession with Fabinho is quite striking. I doubt many posters have even seen more than 2/3 games in the Champions Leagues with him involved. I would rather trust Jose's eye.
Yeah, one that doesn't move like he's 35 as well, which Matic does. When someone is sitting in the single pivot their ground coverage laterally needs to be excellent, Matic has the mobility of an oil tanker.
Good description tbh.Agreed. I can't pretend I've even seen him once, yet if you read this place, he's like a mix of Makele and Vieira
Don't we have Herrera and Pogba for further forward.
A lot of last season we were screaming out for a guy to unlock those 2. One who wasn't 35!
Oh really? Then Carrick is also way past his best for 6 years now.
Positional sense is more important as ever in a def mid, it's a philosophical demand.
If pep would be buying him every one would be going Gaga over his analytical thinking. Matic just one the title ,he is no way past his best.
Ive seen enough of Fabinho to know that he is comfortably better than Matic
Carrick always moved way better than Matic and is also massively superior on the ball, there is zero comparison.
No, if Pep was buying him we'd all be happy that he was making another arrogant blunder like he did with Bravo, and Matic was so vital to the PL win that Conte is ready to get rid of him first chance he gets, yeah.
Have you seen Fabinho play?Yeah, that's exactly why they're pining for Fabinho, an equally limited holding midfielder.
That's total horse shit. Matic is deceptively mobile.
Think Conte just wants a different type of midfielder. He clearly rates him because he started him the vast majority of the time in a title winning season ahead of Fabregas.It says everything that Chelsea would sell him to us and that he's not deemed good enough to be a regular for you by Conte, it's why we'll be trailing behind again next year while funding your summer.
Not sure about key - he was one of Chelsea's worst players last season and ended up losing his place to Fabregas towards the end.has matic deteriorated that badly? been a key part in two title winning sides.
And the Chelsea supporters here do not seem worried about losing him at all.
Think Conte just wants a different type of midfielder. He clearly rates him because he started him the vast majority of the time in a title winning season ahead of Fabregas.
Bakayoko is much more athletic and mobile and perhaps more suited to playing in a midfield 2 than Matic is currently.
Have you seen Fabinho play?
No he isn't.
He also knows how Jose operates, so he will not need loads of coaching. He will do as he is told.The under rating of Matic is getting a bit silly now. Even if he isn't the signing the mouth frothing muppets want, he'd still be a valuable addition to a squad lacking a DM.
He really isn't. he's morphed into a lorry over the past 2 seasons.Yeah he is. He's mobility is perfectly adequate for a midfielder.
Yeah he is. He's mobility is perfectly adequate for a midfielder.
He really isn't. he's morphed into a lorry over the past 2 seasons.
It isn't, he's slow and sluggish to shift across the pitch, it was only protected last season due to how much ground Kante covers.
Peak Matic is great but I don't think he'll dovetail as well with Pogba since they both prefer to play on the left side of midfield. Fabinho is more naturally suited to the right.I can't believe some of you are unhappy with potentially signing Matic. Strong and tall, hammer of a shot. Positional sense is great. I think he will free up Pogba to play further forward also.