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You also have to consider the wages they will be offering not just to the new players but to the existing ones as well. How will they break even with those sort of expenses?

They will, they generate an incredibly disproportionate amount of money for their comparative lack of global support. They're riding the crest of a TV money wave, similar to us 25 years ago.
 
Ah so basically you are happy because you didn't want him and thus have decided that it's true that LvG suddenly pulls the plug conveniently as Chelsea step in and beat us to the player. It's not FM or any of that other shit, it's happened plenty of times to clubs including ours, the attempt to spin it is weak. In this very window Kondogbia was all set for Milan and the day before his medical Inter stole hem from under their noses, to think this can't possibly have happened is as naive as the lame FM nonsense people trot out to try and justify their view.

Looking at your posts it's obvious you rate Pedro (over Mata:eek:) Maybe we were interested , maybe we are no longer interested - does anybody really know - my point is people criticizing people without knowing any of the facts.
But for me personally if we're not signing Pedro and not signing Ramos and not signing Otamendi then I am very happy. I will also be very happy if DDG stays and also will be very happy we sign a top player rather than an average player - I will be ecstatic if we could sign Müller, if not I will be very happy if we sign Kane.. If not I will not wet my knickers and start accusing Woodward or LvG of incompetence, and I will fully support the club as I always have
 
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I doubt it. We have more number 10's than a novel written in binary code.
We really don't. We have Januzaj. That's pretty much it. We have another natural no. 10 in Mata but all we've seen suggests LVG won't play him there. Rooney is a striker, Depay is a winger and Herrera is a no. 8. Don't know where this notion that we have so many no. 10s stems from.
 
True that. Some posters don't seem to think very highly of United as a club and that can't be much fun. I'm not pretending all is rosy but you'd think being a supporter isn't just be about slating your on club.

There are 2 types of "supporters" - ones who will support the club through good and bad times - and others that once they have decided to support this club they have the right to demand success, these "supporters" make me sick
 
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I'm not buying LVG just dropping interest in Pedro, just like that. We need a pacey right winger, he can interlink with other attacking players and Pedro imo fits the bill and he was going quite cheaply. Fair play to Chelsea, they're further strengthening their squad, as are City if they buy De Bruyne.
 
I don't think the media have a clue about what United do and do not want.
 
They're are 2 types of "supporters" - ones who will support the club through good and bad times - and others that once they have decided to support this club they have the right to demand success, these "supporters" make me sick
Tbh I want success and I'm all for spending to get us back to the top. What irks me is people being constantly embarrassed and stating we're run by idiots.
 
Is it possible that Valdes and De Gea had some words with Pedro and put him off signing for us?
Plenty of media are saying so. According to most people on here it's utter nonsense. Not sure why. To me, it doesn't seem unthinkable that a player would consult his friends at the club he's considering joining. And Valdes probably didn't have many nice things to say. Seems as plausible an explanation as any.
 
Is it possible that Valdes and De Gea had some words with Pedro and put him off signing for us?
Possibly, but Pedro is old enough at 28 to make his own decision. Mata and Herrera may have given him a different view on van Gaal and United, Mata more so. It may have nothing to do with how Valdes and De Gea have been treated, he may have decided that Chelsea are a better bet for success. Don't know about the London factor. Fabregas's bird spoke to Pedro's partner about London according to Matt Law in the telegraph.
 
Plenty of media are saying so. According to most people on here it's utter nonsense. Not sure why. To me, it doesn't seem unthinkable that a player would consult his friends at the club he's considering joining. And Valdes probably didn't have many nice things to say. Seems as plausible an explanation as any.

Valdes situation has been known long before we were even linked with Pedro.

And Van Gaal is a saint compared to Mourinho. He didn't poke Valdes in the eye or tell his previous teams to go out there and kick the shit out of Barca.

So I highly doubt that has anything to do with it. Just the media with the usual theories. Wouldn't put it past a few Madrid papers saying De Gea told Pedro not to join, so he gets more hate from our fans.
 
Is it possible that Valdes and De Gea had some words with Pedro and put him off signing for us?

They're professionals, why would they?

De Gea is only out of the squad because he wants to leave.

And Valdes hasn't shown the right commitment when he has been here even though we were the only club that helped rehabilitate him after his injury.

To think that sports professionals would make huge life changing decisions based on conjecture is just silly.
 
You also have to consider the wages they will be offering not just to the new players but to the existing ones as well. How will they break even with those sort of expenses?

Players costs are amortized over the length of their contracts. The entire 150m (If that is how much they spend this season) won't go into the accounts, only a part of it, based on how they amortize the costs.

I haven't seen City's financial statements in a while, so don't know if they are still spending more than they are earning. Though, even if we consider the wages spend of around 200m, plus the amortized costs and other operating expenses: they should be fine, imo.

@BobbyManc or @Manchester Dan are may be more in tune with their current financial situation and explain it better.
 
Could the Pedro thing have something to do with Mendez?
Barca wouldn't touch mendez with a pole. I've also seen people try and hint at the glazers

IMO it's quite simple, either LVG pulled out last minute for whatever reason or we fecked it up by waiting too long and chelsea caught us by surprise. I'm kinda over it now I just hope we aren't done in the market.
 
De Bruyne over Navas is a tremendous upgrade.

Why would you be more concerned if they got Griezmann...they seem of similar abilities

I don't think so.

Navas is generally very underrated on here. He has excellent directness and is also very good at keeping the ball. He has a high footballing IQ, knows when to take on his man and when to keep possession. Also delivers some excellent crosses, particularly drilled crosses along the ground. He maybe starting to lose a bit of his explosive pace but is still a far better asset than say, Ashley Young.

Griezmann and De Bruyne, whilst playing in very similar positions, are not similar players at all.

De Bruyne is all about exploiting open spaces in front of him, and using his explosiveness and power to capitalise on gaps in the final third. Also has a pretty good shot on him, however, his ball control, overall technique - passing, first touch, dribbling - are not on the same level as Griezmann.

Griezmann, in my opinion, is the player that is far more suited to the English league, more of a David Silva type player, who is, unlike De Bruyne, excellent in tight spaces, knowing when to keep possession, or try the killer pass.

Griezmann would fit seamlessly into the United or City set up in my opinion, being used to hard drillings under Simeone, he certainly would put in his fair share of running and tracking back when need be - He's used to that positional Discipline. He's also had successful stints playing as a lone striker for Atletí.

This is all, of course, my take on things, having watched a lot of Wolfsburg last season, and a decent amount of Atletíco Madrid in both European and Domestic competitions
 
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Barca wouldn't touch mendez with a pole. I've also seen people try and hint at the glazers

IMO it's quite simple, either LVG pulled out last minute for whatever reason or we fecked it up by waiting too long and chelsea caught us by surprise. I'm kinda over it now I just hope we aren't done in the market.

Not that it bothers me, as the idea of getting Pedro never excited me, but it's clear as a day that we got beaten to his signing.
 
We should definitely go for greizmann if there is a chance.

come on woody. Panic, be irrational and spend a sh*t ton of cash on a greizmann this late in the window.
 
Not that it bothers me, as the idea of getting Pedro never excited me, but it's clear as a day that we got beaten to his signing.

There is nothing clear since you don't know what was happening before yesterday. We might have lost the battle for his signature but that's far from clear.
 
If we lose de Gea this late in the window, to compound the Pedro fiasco, I will be seething. Woodward can't allow that to happen, as it'll reflect so poorly on him and effect his reputation that he's done so well to build up this window. We've remained defiant that DDG cannot leave, unless we get Ramos and now he's staying, our keeper has to stay too.
 


Missing out on Pedro yesterday to then end up selling DDG this late in the summer, well it would have to go down as a failure of a summer. It started so promisingly but that was before we sold AdM, RVP and Falcao who we haven't replaced.
 
There is nothing clear since you don't know what was happening before yesterday. We might have lost the battle for his signature but that's far from clear.

It is for me.

The manager name checked him, we were linked with him forever, he had agreed terms as per Ballague and few other sources (or are they back to being shit again?), Woodie was in Barcelona to make things happen as per multiple sources, this is not the first time that the club have come out with "we never wanted him in the first place" shit, happened with Fabregas and Kroos last year.

Enough information for me. I don't need everything on the official website to believe it.
 
Tbh I want success and I'm all for spending to get us back to the top. What irks me is people being constantly embarrassed and stating we're run by idiots.

So do I.
Of course the club is not run by idiots , it's the idiots who are accusing the club because they themselves have no idea how to run a business, how to conduct negotiations and more importantly have no idea of what actually goes on behind the scenes and they then believe the journalists who deliberately stir up the emotions of the supporters with nonsense and hysterical headlines, just naivety
 
It is for me.

The manager name checked him, we were linked with him forever, he had agreed terms as per Ballague and few other sources (or are they back to being shit again?), Woodie was in Barcelona to make things happen as per multiple sources, this is not the first time that the club have come out with "we never wanted him in the first place" shit, happened with Fabregas and Kroos last year.

Enough information for me. I don't need everything on the official website to believe it.
Well LVG ruled out Fabregas and Kroos or is it to save face too? We didnt make anything concrete to get those 2 players.
 
It is for me.

The manager name checked him, we were linked with him forever, he had agreed terms as per Ballague and few other sources (or are they back to being shit again?), Woodie was in Barcelona to make things happen as per multiple sources, this is not the first time that the club have come out with "we never wanted him in the first place" shit, happened with Fabregas and Kroos last year.

Enough information for me. I don't need everything on the official website to believe it.

The manager didn't, a journalist asked specifically about Pedro and the manager played along. Maybe he was a target at the time, but unlike Di Maria for example, Pedro name came from the journo not Van gaal.
And once again the press spent a month repeating the exact same info, which tells me that they had something early July and then nothing, a lot could have happen in Van gaal's or Pedro's mind in a month.
 
The manager didn't, a journalist asked specifically about Pedro and the manager played along. Maybe he was target at the time, but unlike Di Maria for example, Pedro name came from the journo not Van gaal.
And once again the press spent a month repeating the exact same info, which tells me that they had something early July and then nothing, a lot could have happen in Van gaal's or Pedro's mind in a month.

Why was Woody in Barcelona?
 
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