All true but we had posts like United being total shambles of a club and run by idiots and the likes.
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Yeah, the ultra positive posters that never see anything wrong in any aspect of the club be it on or off the pitch are just as irritating but get more of a pass because somewhere along the line support became a translation for agreeing with everything.
If today has shown anything, it's that the papers haven't got a fecking clue
Well at the moment everything is goodWhy cry over Pedro?
Because we need to improve the right side of our attack, and frankly I don't see how everything is good at all, we were dire in attack in both PL games and LvG himself has said we need to add pace and creativity up top, we are only a 2 thirds finished team right now.
Promoting stories that have no basis in reality. Oh yeah, of course. Big bad LvG the giant at the top of the beanstalk..... honestly. I believe in freedom of the press, but come on. Just a modicum of research is required for these journalists to revise their sensationalist stories.
No it's people criticizing the wrong people for the wrong reasons going only by the hearsay of some hack
You mean criticizing Woodward for haggling over such a small fee? As that is what nearly every outlet is saying happened, the whole "LvG pulled the plug" is rightfully being treat by most as nothing but a limp attempt at PR spin because Chelsea did us. It doesn't make Woodward a failure this window but he did feck this one up by the looks of things.
You say somewhere along the line, it picked up massively with LvG. I'm not sure whether it's because they were big fans previously or because the Moyes tenure made them pour all hope into the next gug. Meh it may even be because he makes football sound complicated and its quite hipster to go along with it.
Anyhow, although it's the mirror that rumour seems to have been widespread recently. I'm not sure there's nothing to it
It's always been on the Caf in truth but I do think after the Moyes disaster that LvG has gotten a rather generous leeway with a lot of posters.
Pedro is a great player, but maybe not very keen to leave Barca at all. He will leave them, but he really dont want to.
For us, I think its only fair that we use some games to find form. The guys need to find each other.
I love that LvG play our young players. Januzaj, Memphis and Shaw looking damn good.
Also, the window is open to do more business. I think we will do.
I would be pissed as feck if we lost out to Bale or Ronaldo, but Pedro is okay and nothing to be very upset about IMO.
"feck off you penny-pinching bastard"? That makes no sense. He'd earn more here than if he moved to Real.
Fair enough but I don't think we will get anyone better than Pedro at this stage of the window and he is a big upgrade on Mata in the RWF position IMO.
How do you know? Either way Pedro is not what we want so good news imo and hope we're going for better.
When will people understand that Woodward will only sign a player if LVG really wants him and not if Woodward wants him. Whether we pay an extra million here or there is not the issue.
People on here think they are master negotiators because they've played FM or some other video game. In real life they would be eaten alive. Woodward is not an idiot and nor is LvG.
If De Gea listens or gets upset by those sort of comments by so called 'fans' then christ almighty, don't go to Real, you'll be in tears the way they'll treat you!
Most outlets are saying LVG pulled the plug not that Woodward haggled.
Those reports only came out after it was clear Chelsea had got him. It's the club trying to save face that they were beaten to a signing.
What about reports LVG wasnt sure about the deal for a while. That is club saving face too. It sounds like quite an operation by the club then.
Van Gaal spoke about Pedro literally last week and said he was what we needed and that the press could write it and he'd introduce Pedro to them when he signed.
We don't need tweets and rumours to know we wanted Pedro.
I don't know that he did.
I certainly never saw such reports and hes been name checking him in recent weeks for crying out loud. What about the reports Pedro was put off by LvG? Or he'd given us an ultimatum as we were messing around on the fee?
You seem to have confirmation bias on what reports you believe. If you can't see that us pulling out being reported within minutes of him signing for Chelsea isnt saving face then I despair. Perhaps he wanted a game time guarantee and we couldn't give it but in no way did we drop out
We wanted him but not enough. I refuse to believe we just let Chelsea take him. Remember Memphis, PSG was sniffing and we got the job done quickly.
KDB has decided to leave Wolfsburg
Also, it's reported we bid / expressed an interest in Mane last week. Why would we do that to "save face" on the Pedro deal if we hadn't even been scuppered by then?
You said it yourself. People believe what they want to believe.
You believe we haggled over few million? Fair enough, I don't.
Ah so basically you are happy because you didn't want him and thus have decided that it's true that LvG suddenly pulls the plug conveniently as Chelsea step in and beat us to the player. It's not FM or any of that other shit, it's happened plenty of times to clubs including ours, the attempt to spin it is weak. In this very window Kondogbia was all set for Milan and the day before his medical Inter stole hem from under their noses, to think this can't possibly have happened is as naive as the lame FM nonsense people trot out to try and justify their view.
Most are saying that we are claiming that, not that they actually believe it, most are treating as a poor attempt to save face.
From last week, widely reported so nothing made up here..
"You have to ask Pedro, not me," Van Gaal insisted when asked about the deal. "My answer is it’s a process - a club, a player and we are there also. I don’t mention anything to you until he has signed. Then I come to you and say ‘Pedro is here’. But it’s still not the case and we shall wait and see."
When asked if Pedro was the kind of fast, direct striker United are looking for, Van Gaal replied: "Pedro is a player like that, so write it!"
True that. Some posters don't seem to think very highly of United as a club and that can't be much fun. I'm not pretending all is rosy but you'd think being a supporter isn't just be about slating your on club.
To make it fit into the narrative that we gave up on Pedro as we were focusing on Mane anyway, rather than getting chubbed off and switching our affections?
Yesterday or the day before the press said Ed was haggling over the Pedro deal & LvG told him to just pay the money.
Today:
Some of the press are saying we aren't signing Pedro because Chelsea beat us to it because we spent too long haggling and wouldn't pay the extra ~€2mil.
Some of the press are saying LvG wasn't 100% convinced he was the right player for us and as a result, pulled out of the deal today after he made his mind up he wasn't.
Some of the press are saying Pedro chose to go to Chelsea because of the London life and United was never an option.
None of the above matters as the press know feck all as to why the deal isn't going ahead any more and we should really stop having a meltdown over this
. They are briefed with what the club want them to know... The bellends who are still upset that they aren't baby fed info like they were under the Moyes campaign are here trying to make it into a big a drama as possible, the bigger the drama the more money they'll make.Chill your beans.
I'm not making drama.Yesterday or the day before the press said Ed was haggling over the Pedro deal & LvG told him to just pay the money.
Today:
Some of the press are saying we aren't signing Pedro because Chelsea beat us to it because we spent too long haggling and wouldn't pay the extra ~€2mil.
Some of the press are saying LvG wasn't 100% convinced he was the right player for us and as a result, pulled out of the deal today after he made his mind up he wasn't.
Some of the press are saying Pedro chose to go to Chelsea because of the London life and United was never an option.
None of the above matters as the press know feck all as to why the deal isn't going ahead any more and we should really stop having a meltdown over this
Chill your beans.
we should hijack city's bid for kevin de bryune. He's lvg ideal no.10.
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Not youI'm not making drama.
Was quoting you for your initial point, the meltdown comments were for the other muppets on here.- Status