Even if it seems unlikely at the moment, those goals could come from the players we already have. I'm more concerned for our success through someone like Smalling getting injured and not having adequate cover than anything else.
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Even if it seems unlikely at the moment, those goals could come from the players we already have. I'm more concerned for our success through someone like Smalling getting injured and not having adequate cover than anything else.
That's about the most obvious "let's cash in on the delirious United fans who want more fuel to vent and everyone else to laugh at United" clickbait article you are likely to see this window.
i didn't see it. my bad.
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Their defense has looked solid, Skrtel is experienced and Lovren looked a good CB until he ended up with Moreno outside him, so far this season he's looked more like the CB that shone at Southampton. Up front I don't highly rate Benteke but I think Rooney is past his best and isn't guaranteed to offer much more. Their other attacking options are easily on par with ours and they haven't got Sturridge back yet who'll be a big boost for them in the 2nd half of the season. Our midfield is better but also older and more injury prone.
Their defense has looked solid, Skrtel is experienced and Lovren looked a good CB until he ended up with Moreno outside him, so far this season he's looked more like the CB that shone at Southampton. Up front I don't highly rate Benteke but I think Rooney is past his best and isn't guaranteed to offer much more. Their other attacking options are easily on par with ours and they haven't got Sturridge back yet who'll be a big boost for them in the 2nd half of the season. Our midfield is better but also older and more injury prone.
I think we're probably done too. Given the lack of available quality players, I felt that Pedro was our last piece of business
I always suspected that bizzare negotiations had nothing to with money.
But i also though LVG wanted the player.
Our transfer policy is farcical and appears to have no direction at all.
Months trying to sign a player the manager apparently doesn't fancy, with Woodward in Spain 2 days ago to close the deal, as if signing him for a few a million less would remedy the issues. There has to be more to it. Bizarre.
Add in the constant pursuit of players who we're told are unavailable - rather than move on to other targets we seem to continually go back with the hope that things change, with no back-up plan.
If our plan was Bale, Ramos an Mueller or nothing than that should be it. If not, why are we perusing players the manager doesn't want. Seems obvious that there should have been an agreed list, with Woodward brokering the deals for players the manager wants. When one isn't available you move on or wait with what you've got...I'm not sure there's a plan.
Maybe they'll surprise us but it doesn't look like it.
Months trying to sign a player the manager apparently doesn't fancy, with Woodward in Spain 2 days ago to close the deal, as if signing him for a few a million less would remedy the issues. There has to be more to it. Bizarre.
Add in the constant pursuit of players who we're told are unavailable - rather than move on to other targets we seem to continually go back with the hope that things change, with no back-up plan.
If our plan was Bale, Ramos an Mueller or nothing than that should be it. If not, why are we perusing players the manager doesn't want. Seems obvious that there should have been an agreed list, with Woodward brokering the deals for players the manager wants. When one isn't available you move on or wait with what you've got...I'm not sure there's a plan.
Maybe they'll surprise us but it doesn't look like it.
Halilovic on loan at Sporting Gijon.
Why would LvG have Pedro on his shortlist if he pulls out at the last minute over lack of pace? Surely he knew this already.
He also allegedly pulled out of signing Kroos.
Philosophy?
He also allegedly pulled out of signing Kroos.
Philosophy?
Labrune has confirmed that Michel will be Marseille's new manager.
The Laydman tweet must be the biggest shit i have read all summer. Dont know where to start.
I don't see Januzaj and Mata weighing in with nearly enough and people have to remember how young Memphis is, LvG keeps stressing this. I share the concern over Smalling as I think we need another CB as well, but at least as a starting 11 we have a back 4 that looks strong and compliments each other, even Blind has looked fine with the cover of Smalling and Schneiderlin to mask his weakness and aid his strengths. Up top our starting front 4 doesn't look nearly good enough without any injuries IMO.
Really? Did you watch the Bournemouth game, he nearly caused them to concede 2 goals.
OK so, Rooney and Benteke are arguably similar level.
Coutinho maybe on par with Mata.
Memphis is far better than any of Liverpool's wide options, granted I haven't seen much of Firminio.
Ibe is so raw, and his decision making is shite. He may come good, but I certainly would have him no where near United's starting 11.
The same goes for Lallana, he would be sitting comfortably on United's bench. Seems like he doesn't have the cajones to make the step up.
Kurzawa replacement probably.
Maybe they weren't nice to Woody when he got to Barcelona. Did he somehow feck things up with a cultural faux pas? Did he overdo the kissing? Did he projectile vomit on Luis Enrique? Did he get mixed up with the old pounds/euros sums?
I think Kroos was a no from beginning as LVG didn't want him, while it is possible that he wasn't sure about Pedro, or better say about us and wanted more time to decide if it's worth bringing him, or not.... We probably had to make a quick decision after Chelsea stepped in an that's when LVG said no. I thing if Chelsea didn't step in, we would be still waiting as LVG needs more time, obviously.
Yes I watched the Bouremouth game and I also watched the analysis of both our defense and theirs, it seems to me that both are not coughing many up chances and are operating as good units, we could have conceded against Spurs when Kane fooled Smalling and played Eriksen in, that doesn't make the overall performance from Smalling bad, same with Lovren.
Memphis has no more proven it in the PL than Firmino has at this point, it's way too soon to even contemplate who will have the bigger affect on their attack this season, and I'd say Coutinho is the kind of sparky player our attack needs to replace Mata's slowness.
Overall there's very little between either side in attack and Pedro would have given us an edge IMO.
Never about money this. Might seem strange but Pedro didn't really impress in the the game against Bilbao and we are not sure how much he wanted to play for us. After Di Snake transfer, we seem to be more into players who want a future here, rather than just a paycheck. The more i look at it, we might just buy less from Spain and focus on the rest of Europe.
Am I worried? Well yeah, we still need a striker and a CB, not to mention the GK position but i try to stay positive and hope that the "failed" transfers are due to us learning from recent past mistakes. As for Pedro to Chelsea, i don't think he is Alexis 2 and won't carry them.
Am I worried? Well yeah, we still need a striker and a CB, not to mention the GK position but i try to stay positive and hope that the "failed" transfers are due to us learning from recent past mistakes. As for Pedro to Chelsea, i don't think he is Alexis 2 and won't carry them.
Why?! Get rid of pointless player like Muntari after years, only to overspend on a physical player with the football brain of a gnat. That's why Milan always end up where they do. Physical players with no quality or end product
I'm doubting Woodward was even in Barca to conclude the deal. The same sources claimed Pedro gave us a 3 day deadline to complete the deal and unless Spain's timezone is two days ahead of us we can safely call bullshit on that one.
It's my opinion LVG wanted Pedro to play with Rooney since he thought Wayne would do well up on his own.
Maybe Wayne's form has forced his hand elsewhere, suddenly Pedro doesn't make sense. Mata is a direct goal threat in scoring and assisting, why take that out of the team?
So we would have to sign Pedro and another striker, doesn't really make sense to me
He's just one of their options. The others are Soriano (Sampdoria) or Rafinha (Barcelona).
oh come on man, I'm upset about about pedro as well but he wasn't needed to get top 4.
Liverpool are shite and rodgers is clueless unless he has saurez level players, we'll get 4th easily but even then that wouldn't be good enough
Liverpool are shite and rodgers is clueless unless he has saurez level players, we'll get 4th easily but even then that wouldn't be good enough
OK you just compared a newly promoted Bournemouth side, to a side that finished 5th in the PL last season, and mentioned their 2 best attacking players, of whom are probably valued close to £80m between them.
Well the fact that Memphis is starting for United must mean something. So you would swap Firminio with Memphis? How would you value both players in the current market? Memphis is just after scoring 2 fantastic solo goals for us in a European competition, and supplied an excellent cross for a crucial 3rd goal. When Firminio has a performance like Memphis did last night, or even begin to start for his team. I may begin to rate Liverpool's attack a bit more.
But as it stands, as I've said before, Coutinho is the only top player in their squad.
I think there is a pretty huge difference in quality. You still didn't address the gulf in quality between both central midfields, arguably the most important part of the pitch. (among top teams, it is in my opinion)
They've also lost their most important player in Sterling, with whom they still only finished 6th. No matter how good Firimio will turn out to be, he won't replace the pace and urgency Sterling brought to the team.
I think LVG last night saw that we don't really need Pedro and that we need a #9 more so pulled out of the deal, that's what I'm hoping anyway...
One can dream.
That'd be the only way I'd be okay with this.
Given the reports about Chelsea being in pole position came shortly after the game no I would of thought our interest ended earlier in the week. Maybe that's what Woody went to Spain for (if he did go at all) to tell Barca that the deal was off?
No, I didn't compare them I simply pointed out that all defenders get done on occasions, it doesn't make there enitreity of their two performances in the PL so far this season, bad.
Firmino has had very little pre season and is getting up to speed with his fitness, I thought Memphis did well last night but we need to be relaisitc about the poor quality of the opponents, when he does that to a few PL teams then we can start to get really excited. I didn't say I'd swap them, I said at this point there's no compairson to be made as Firmino has barely played and in fairness he has a good record ina much better league than Memphis came from. Time will tell but there is no clear advantage to either team in attack IMO.
I did address it, I said ours is better but is also older and injury prone with Bastian still not even fully fit and Carrick now 34.
I would to.
if there was a good enough no.9 in the market available, who is out there ?
Lovren is a constant brain fart waiting to happen, just ask Liverpool fans here. In midfield we have Herrera and Morgan too, not just Schweini and Carrick.
So, genuinely you just believe absolutely everything you read in the media then yeah?
Anyone can let me know why does transfer window only close on 1st Sept even though the games had started? Is there a reason for this?
I would rather go off what I saw of him at Southampton, I know he was bad last season but I think having the useless Moreno next to him was a big part of that. He's looked more like he did at Saint Mary's in the two games this season, not a world beater for sure but neither are our 2 CB's, the bigger point is the back 4 unit in totality. Is Herrera actually considered a CM by LvG in this system? So far he seems to be counting him mainly as a player to come in for the #10 and not one he'd trust in the double pivot.
Exactly
It's weird that people critizing our transfer strategy over effin' Pedro, despite us signing four excellent players that we really needed before we went on tour. It's not like it's Hazard or, dare I say it, Thiago ffs. Sometimes I wish we hadn't signed Memphis so early. Maybe we would still drool over the Memphis signing if he only joined mid-July.
People here are so doom and gloom 
Pedro is a great player, but I think it would be better to sign some who is world class. Maybe a striker would be better?
Pedro is a great player, but I think it would be better to sign some who is world class. Maybe a striker would be better? Not saying I'm Nostradamus, but I predicted this on Monday. Woody did a Lucius Fox and flew to Barcelona to call the deal off; Well played Woody, well played...
Quite funny to see so many numpties in here losing their shit over the Pedro deal. Nothing like a muppet scorned.
If LVG didn't want him, I'm fine with that. He knows a lot more about it than any of us.
Some of you need to grow up and get a grip. Or transfer to RAWK.
If LVG didn't want him, I'm fine with that. He knows a lot more about it than any of us.
Some of you need to grow up and get a grip. Or transfer to RAWK.
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