Transfer Tweets - Summer 2015 | Stop Spamming - Discussion Should Relate to Tweets
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So he was too slow or too fast for the philosophy then? I dont' mind interest being dropped, but for pace, really?
I think Ian Ladyman is speaking bollocks.
We must be looking for someone electric then.
He's quick but he's not exactly Bale or Walcott quick.I thought he was rapid.
Haven't got a clue who he'd want then, Lennon still knocking a ball around?
We must be looking for someone electric then.
He's quick but he's not exactly Bale or Walcott quick.
Has reservations over his pace yet plays the slowest player on earth in the same position? That's ridiculous scrambling for reasons.
In the beginning of August our needs was obvious. One CB and one forward. Pedro was one candidate.
Like everybody else I thought Pedro was in the bag and we where just waiting for confirmation. But after yesterday's game I wasn't so sure.
First. Mike Smalling has gone from a raw talent to the real deal. His progress has changed our needs and right now it looks like we are searching for a quality left footed LCB. The obvious candidate is Laporte but maybe it's one year to soon for him. Hard to know. Right now he would be my first choice. His age and connection with Herrera probably helps. As we saw with ADM it's also important to know a little about character and personality. Basque players seems to have this never die attitude. Could be a factor.
Second. Yesterday Memphis stepped up and delivered. Maybe LvG was afraid that he needed a season to get used playing for a bigger club, that's why he was interested in Pedro. Hard to tell.
My pick on this is that the forward we need is a Hazard/Sanchez/Sterling type of player. Pace and good dribbling skills. Pedro isn't this type of player. Maybe we are waiting for Bale, or somebody similar. If we buy Pedro we get experience and probably goals, but at the same time we have to drop one of Mata or Memphis. So far Young has been a very good back player, counted whenever needed. Yesterday also Januzaj looked promising and maybe his contribution persuaded our managers thoughts.
I'm quite sure this isn't about money and I have faith in Woody and LvG. Wait until the 1 of September, then we know more.
Exactly.
Maybe there is hope for Valencia and his 90mph crosses to play there again, because I'd say of all our attacking players only Val would be faster than Pedro.
Come again?
LVG had reservations about Fellain - in particular his height - all summer.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33917566
Nah, I think LvG was speaking in pretty broad terms. His comments could be interpreted in any way depending on the context. FWIW, I think LvG decided not to buy him. This saga has been rumbling on for too long for it to be anything else.
Like some of the journo's are saying, i doubt we missed out on him because we didnt want to pay an extra €2 million.
Either we have someone else lined up or one of the younger players ( Januzaj, Pereiera or Lingard) must have convinced him in training that we have the winger position well covered.
The story that LvG thinks Pedro isnt quick enough is BS, ladyman is trying to make shit up
Either we have someone else lined up or one of the younger players ( Januzaj, Pereiera or Lingard) must have convinced him in training that we have the winger position well covered.
The story that LvG thinks Pedro isnt quick enough is BS, ladyman is trying to make shit up
Good post.
But then why was Woody flying over to Barcelona 2 days ago?
Bruges would finish about 15th in the Premier League. I hope LvG didn't read too much into the game last night, because it was in no way representative of what United are going to face this season.
I'm not too fussed about missing out on Pedro. He would never have been the sole solution to our issues which centre on a distinct lack of creativity when we face bunker defences. Pedro wouldn't have been able to help in that regard at all, as his game is much like Mata's only with more pace. If we give Januzaj a real chance this season, I think it will be worth it cos he is that dribbling creator that we need and he has it in him to thrive in a central or wide position. Reus would be my preference if we were to buy also, as he would be an upgrade on what we lost when we sold ADM...
The papers have been making up shit one way or the other. The fact that the transfer seems to have fallen apart tells us that the Woodward reports are more likely to be bullshit than not.
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luckhurst couldn't wait.
tearing the sh*t out of our transfer window already.
tearing the sh*t out of our transfer window already.
As someone else said, questioning Pedro's pace would be like pondering whether Fellaini is tall enough.
Brugge might not even be good enough to be a PL team.
Exactly. Whether or not we buy Pedro, we'd still be the third best team in England. Buying Pedro would have only made our squad bigger, without making actually making that much better. In fact, it would have made it that much harder to buy a top class player next season because neither Memphis nor Pedro would be happy to drop to the bench. Let's keep a space open in the squad for someone who can help us close the gap on Europe's elite. If we can't do that yet, we have good enough wingers to keep us challenging.
Give over. 'Another' fiasco?! We have been excellent in our dealings for many months now. Sometimes these things happen. Lots of parties with lots of money changing hands. It can't always go as you would like and we will never know what happened behind the scenes.
His sprint speed on fifa is only 80. Van Gaal has clearly done his research.
I can only assume that he had planned to play pedro on the right and move mata to the No. 10 position. He's clearly changed his mind with Januzaj's performance in the 10 role last night. Let's just hope it's the correct decision!
Hard to argue with what he said really. We didn't get the defender we wanted, we haven't brought in replacements for RVP and ADM and our best player is sitting in the stands and wants to leave.
It's a huge risk, especially when the player is going to go to a direct rival.
if it doesn't work out imo it's something he has to be held responsible for.
all true but the window is still open. i will only cast my final judgement once it is closed.
Because Bilbao were in Barcelona
Because Bilbao were in Barcelona
No, I read an interview with him the other day where he said that he wouldn't use Mata at no.10 because he looks for a second striker at that position rather than another midfielder.
I doubt Van Gaal is a manager to make such decisions based solely on a game against an injury depleted side.
I agree with what was said about Smalling, seems like Jones started pre-season as our No. 1 RCB but Smalling's excellent performances and Jones' not so excellent games plus his injury gave Smalling the chance to step up and he's really started the season well. Could be the reason we weren't really in for Otamendi.
Also I don't think Van Gaal has overnight misgivings over a player, has to be one of the following things:
- LvG didn't like Barca delaying the deal initially ( for the 3 cup games) and just got pissed off and pulled out.
- Scouts noticed something that worried them about Pedro during the matches this season.
- Another player, probably one who LvG thinks is more suited to his style of play, became avilable.
- One or more of the younger players has been showing enough in training to convince Van Gaal that we dont need anymore winger/forwards and rather a proper striker(?)
Building on the last point, could just be that seeing how poor Rooney has been playing the lone striker role made Van Gaal realize we dont need a player to play in the #10 position rather we need a proper striker to lead the line and play off the last player because it looks Rooney isn't the kind of player who can play upfront alone anymore
Well today is 20th anniversary of 'You cant win anything with kids'. Maybe LVG wants to go all young this year.
So was di Maria.
Is Van Gaal drunk? The guy he plays on the right flank is the definition of someone who seriously lacks pace, no disrespect.
Why do so many people assume that LvG was involved in the negotiations? It's all Woody. LvG's only input is to say 'yes, I want him' or 'no, feck off he's shit'.
We didn't get the defender we wanted - he is madrid's club captain, was always going to be a tall order. hardly a failing on LVG or Woodwards part.
We haven't brought in replacements for RVP and ADM - RVP was constantly injured for the last season, we will probably bring in someone before the window closes. For AdM, we have memphis as a left winger and 2 central midfielders brought in if you want to argue his best position was cmf.
our best player is sitting in the stands and wants to leave - Not sure how LVG or Woodward can be blamed for that. He's clearly had a long term game plan to leave United (as instructed by Mendes) and if he doesn;t want to be part of United then why risk him in goals. Just because madrid really want him doesn;t mean we should sell him on the cheap either.
Some of these arguements might have validity come the second of September but so far we've adressed the midfield and right back problem pretty well. We've brought in an exciting winger and got rid of some dead wood. I am relatively sure we will bring in the right people in the right positions by the close of the window.
all young not Young.Yeah who needs Pedro when we have Young signed up for another 3 seasons!
Yeh and.. It's an equally daft statement: "has reservations over Di Maria’s pace".
I'm delighted with the signings so far but it doesn't mean the window has been a roaring success as the points above prove. There's still time left but I don't think we'll get anybody else in.
Maybe he meant pace as in power as well. Maybe he felt Pedro would get shrugged off the ball easily, unlike Depay. I dunno, Im trying to justify it too.
I think it's Ladyman bullshitting to be honest, LVG made these reservation clear on tour yet it's the first time during this saga he reports them? Nah.
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