I don't believe in Jones tbh, however for the simple fact that he can't stay fit, I think not signing a CB is basically suicide. We all saw what happened last season (when all last summer their injury records were being scrutinised). If we end up in the same positions again having to pair McNair and Blind/Rojo at CB for a cruicial game, we're a bunch of pricks
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I don't believe in Jones tbh, however for the simple fact that he can't stay fit, I think not signing a CB is basically suicide. We all saw what happened last season (when all last summer their injury records were being scrutinised). If we end up in the same positions again having to pair McNair and Blind/Rojo at CB for a cruicial game, we're a bunch of pricks
I'd say he a better version of Jones. An all action defender, not a ball playing one. Not worth the money they are asking.
It would only be united fans that think united don't need a centre back when we clearly do.
I'm all for swerving Otamedi but the position still needs filling.
Some of the defending last year was shocking, it's very optimistic to believe the partnership of jones/smalling could reach a title winning level this season. Lets not even talk about inability to stay fit also.
I'm all for swerving Otamedi but the position still needs filling.
Some of the defending last year was shocking, it's very optimistic to believe the partnership of jones/smalling could reach a title winning level this season. Lets not even talk about inability to stay fit also.
We bought Rojo last summer predominantly as a CB. Now you don't wanna play him even in case of injury.
Not to mention even he became a crock last season after joining us along with Shaw.
TBH so is relying on Rooney to be our Aguero.
Sorry but where have I said that? I actually like Rojo. What I would dislike is a pairing of McNair Blind/Rojo in a crucial game as I said.
I don't think our defending was shocking when Jones and Smalling were fit at all. Infact it was pretty good generally considering the goings on in front of them.
It was shocking when injury struck and LVG went on experimenting with the formations, and also especially when Carrick was out and Rooney played as DM and what not.
I agree, but rooney just needs to hit 16-18 goals next season tbh, as we showed this year we have goals from midfield and hopefully our wide men.
The striker force needs tweaking but I still believe the defence is more important atm. Build from back.
Blasphemy!
That IMO wont win us the league, if we don't sure up at the back
In case of 3 injuries at CB together Mcnair and Rojo is probably a better partnership than most of the rest of the league can put up in that Scenario. With Evans also there and Blind capable of filling in we have enough depth in numbers.
What we lack is that one consistent defender who is first name on the sheet and also fits LVG's ball playing philosophy from the back. If we can get someone like that great, but if we can't situation isn't that desperate that we have to sign anyone for the sake of it for big money.
I would say Rooney is nearer Aguero than our central defenders are near the level they should be. If you know what i mean.
I don't care about the scenarios of 3 injuries compared to other teams.
We're not other teams and we are VERY likey to have more injuries at CB than the other teams as the pervious 2 seasons have shown.
Jones especially cannot be relied upon to stay fit.
So...
di Maria's 52m pound move to PSG almost done according to the sun.
di Maria's 52m pound move to PSG almost done according to the sun.
I agree tbh
I have my doubts as to whether it's enough but we'll have to ride it out.
Di maria staying would be a massive bonus to us, regardless of what the majority think. He has end product, whether it be assists or goals, something that can make up for not having the best strike force.
Would agree with this also.
There's no need of that is there? He's been a fine player for our club and if he leaves on a bad note that's on him but he still has 1 year left on his contract, why not get the best out of him?
What he actually said is not bad, and if its true that DDG head isn't in the game atm (as has been suggested) then it needed to be said.
Rooney has already told Louis van Gaal as a 9 he will score at minimum 25 goals, don't worry about goals, the biggest concern is him slowing our game down. Like against Barcelona he can be poor and get on the scoresheet, but if we play too many balls into him then by the time he's controlled it Memphis will be offside.
As it is Louis van Gaal likes his strikers to work hard without the ball keeping the defenders occupied and creating space for the midfielders, the striker might not get too many touches but he will get on the end of chances and he needs to take them, providing Rooney is disciplined and doesn't wander looking for the ball he can perform this function.
As it is Louis van Gaal likes his strikers to work hard without the ball keeping the defenders occupied and creating space for the midfielders, the striker might not get too many touches but he will get on the end of chances and he needs to take them, providing Rooney is disciplined and doesn't wander looking for the ball he can perform this function.
LVG was just trotting out his standard line of players always competing for places and that no one is safe.
That would be a fantastic price imo.
Stones would be my choice, I think his attributes would compliment Jones/Smalling. He's a confident, vocal defender in the mode of John Terry, he's versatile, excellent and brave on the ball, and it would prevent Chelsea signing a player that will be a key long term signing for them. I'd prefer Ramos, but even then, Stones has the advantage of speaking English, so I think he'd settle quicker and communicate better. Plus, of course, he's still very young.
Just know we'll end up with De Vrij or someone though
Okay yeah for 52m i would call it a day.
Not read read the article, but I imagine that the £52m figure has been plucked out the air by The Sun. Probably according to another source too.
Thing is they're not always injured, neither is of Hargreaves level.
And when we sign never injured defenders such as Shaw they become prone to injury overnight!
Ah yes let's trust The Sun, we still "closing in" on Benteke by the way?
It's this behind closed inter-squad game they are supposedly going to play when they get back that is worrying me. I can see us coming back from the US with no injuries and then picking up a load in that.
The question is where will that £52m go?
Personally I'd save it until the right player becomes available, sign Pedro for a very reasonable £22m and play either Young / Memphis / Pedro or Memphis / Mata / Pedro, give the youngsters a chance to show what they can do this season.
But I get what Louis van Gaal means, we lack that match winner, somebody could do a Kane although I doubt it, Rooney is our best bet he can pop up with a goal out of nowhere, there really aren't any other options.
What about De Bruyne, is he worth the reported fee? 10 goals and 20 assists last season, Memphis / De Bruyne / Pedro.
Personally I'd save it until the right player becomes available, sign Pedro for a very reasonable £22m and play either Young / Memphis / Pedro or Memphis / Mata / Pedro, give the youngsters a chance to show what they can do this season.
But I get what Louis van Gaal means, we lack that match winner, somebody could do a Kane although I doubt it, Rooney is our best bet he can pop up with a goal out of nowhere, there really aren't any other options.
What about De Bruyne, is he worth the reported fee? 10 goals and 20 assists last season, Memphis / De Bruyne / Pedro.
De Bruyne would cost alot and isn't the fastest. Don't think van Gaal wants another slow 10 who can play as winger, we've already got Mata to fit in and need more speed if Di Maria goes. He wouldn't really solve our striker issue either. Cracking player though.
We dont really need another nr. 10.
Sort of agree with this, although I do think the United hierarchy will face a bit of a backlash if our net spend is sub £50m. But there's no point in us spunking £50m on someone just for the Adidas kit launch when say Bale or Reus could be available in the next few years.
I think De Bruyne is seriously over-rated by the majority of people who comment on him on here.
He is suited to the Bundesliga. He requires an open style of play to get the best out of his abilities. He strives in a league which consists of a lot of end-to-end games.
Watch his performance in the Europa League QF 1st Leg, against a tight Napoli team, who basically had a rigid defence and disciplined midfielders - the way most teams in the PL set up against United. I think he would struggle to have the influence that his undoubtedly ridiculous transfer fee would assume.
He is suited to the Bundesliga. He requires an open style of play to get the best out of his abilities. He strives in a league which consists of a lot of end-to-end games.
Watch his performance in the Europa League QF 1st Leg, against a tight Napoli team, who basically had a rigid defence and disciplined midfielders - the way most teams in the PL set up against United. I think he would struggle to have the influence that his undoubtedly ridiculous transfer fee would assume.
If we sign De Bruyne and Pedro we are golden. Depay on the left, De Bruyne behind Rooney and Pedro on the right.
Where does that leave Mata and more importantly Pereira?
Fighting for their place, like everyone else.
We are going for the Champions league, the PL, the league cup, the FA cup, the Reserve PL and the U21 PL, just rotate the team.
Good post and most balanced analysis of De Bruyne i've heard.
That being said I could see him doing well at city because silva is there and on his day can unlock any defence, creating the space for KDB to work with.
Don't think de bryne would suit the compact style LVG has us playing, he suits end to end games quite a bit.
We are going for the Champions league, the PL, the league cup, the FA cup, the Reserve PL and the U21 PL, just rotate the team.
That's too much of nr. 10s imo.
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