Transfer Tweets - Summer 2015 | Stop Spamming - Discussion Should Relate to Tweets
- Thread starter Rado_N
- Start date
- Status
Was going to say the same.
Ramos' dad has a soft spot for United too.
Come on Ramos' dad tell him to come.
Come on Ramos' dad tell him to come.
So within minutes of each tweet, we have 30M pound bid and then it gets ramped up to 35M pound by Daily Mail..
At this rate, we will have to pay 150M for Ramos and give DDG..
But Clyne is somehow just 10.5M rising up to 12.5M!!
Why is it that when it comes to United, the papers just love to keep increasing the price with no clue of what exactly the club paid?!
What do they get?! Same happened with Shaw and Memphis recently!!
Maybe they have some analysis done where higher the price, easier for them to mock a signing if it doesn't work out?! Or maybe, the comments section of these rags get filled up by ABUs who quote these ridiculous fee valuations to troll United and they get more clicks?!
And they get paid for such lousy journalism..
Calm down, Herbert's article says "just over" £30m, and the fees will be somewhat speculative at this stage (especially with currency conversion coming into play).
You can tell people have been playing too much Football Manager! Treat turning thirty like suddenly his physical values are going to plummet! 
Fitness and stamina regression aren't spawned by a magical number, as if a video game. Ramos is a great athlete, and barring injury, may retain all his agility and speed for another three or more years.
Fitness and stamina regression aren't spawned by a magical number, as if a video game. Ramos is a great athlete, and barring injury, may retain all his agility and speed for another three or more years.
£46m , I would pay that for him in a heartbeat.
This place would be hillarious if he ends up doing Fabregas on us.
On a serious note though this doesn't seem like we're being led on. There have been enough rumours of the discontent from his camp to prove he wants to leave.
On a serious note though this doesn't seem like we're being led on. There have been enough rumours of the discontent from his camp to prove he wants to leave.
Actually I dont care about the fee.. It is more about the fact that journalist got no clue and just throw around figures or not even trying to do a semblance of a proper job..
If we pay 30M, 35M doesn't concern me as long as the player does a great job for united..
But hyping up numbers just for the sake of it also contributes to clubs expecting ridiculous fees these days..
It was more a rant about the lousy journalists, than what we might end up paying..
I don't think Ramos was better than Otamendi this year.
The entire idea of Ramos being the ultimate centreback is a bit overblown and build on the assumption that because he has done it for Madrid and Spain so naturally he'll do it for us aswell and not even that but also till the end of his career. I don't agree with that assumption at all. Many good examples of proven experience players suddenly not working out at another club.
Also the age thing, 3 years ago Casillias was rated as the best in the wolrd in what he did. Now he has lost it and is declining rapidly and no top club with top 4 ambitions would even consider him for their GK. Same example can be made about RVP, 3 years ago best in the world at what he did now his legs are gone and we are evening struggling to sell him to some turkish sides... My point is when a player reaches a sudden age it can suddenly go downhill real fast, real soon. Ramos is nearing that age and imagine us now paying almost €60m and after a settling in period he'll have a good 1 and a half season for us and than starts declining like Iker or Robin and turns a bit shit for the last 2 seasons on 12 million a year wages.
Anything on the Ron Vlaar front...?
That's all based on nothing but your opinion though. You nor I know when and if he will decline sharply...
Yes.. He won't be signing for United.. Thinks it is a step down to move a club who were FA cup finalist to a team which just finished 4th..
Puyol, Stam, Desailly, Costacurta, Blanc, Thuram, Nesta, Cannavaro, Maldini...any of these ring a bell?
Who are the people you would sign , please name only those players who will be sure shot good for the next 5 years and will have no gamble involved
Oh shit I've just realised that I'm 28. That means I've only got 2 more years until my arms and legs fall off and the dementia kicks in .
.One and a half year and you're going to decline rapidly.Oh shit I've just realised that I'm 28. That means I've only got 2 more years until my arms and legs fall off and the dementia kicks in
Firmino and Clyne been linked to us alot this summer and nobody that was against it in fact most had them down as starters for us.
Ings and Milner are solid players that would imrpove them and they got them both for free.
Been a great summer for them so far, if they add a good centreback they could be a handfull next season.
Isn't everything here based on opnions ?
It is just an explanation of why I'am not so keen on it as many other people are.
I think that we should all just take a moment and remember that David Luiz went for 50 million.
Oh shit I've just realised that I'm 28. That means I've only got 2 more years until my arms and legs fall off and the dementia kicks in
I know exactly what you fear.. I am 30 and I already forgot the password to login to the caf!! Luckily I auto saved the password when i was 29 years and 364 days and it just lets me in!!
Wait?! Where am I?! What is this place?!
Oh shit I've just realised that I'm 28. That means I've only got 2 more years until my arms and legs fall off and the dementia kicks in
Nurse!! He's out of bed again!
You're presenting them more as fact rather than opinion though.
You know 7 years ago Rio Ferdinand was 29. He was pretty good after that despite being crippled with a few major injuries...
The transition from good to bad in a players latter years is a real concern yes, its just not as black and white as you're making it out to be.
Who would you rather sign then?
He's snubbed us already. Joined Bournemouth.
Was just thinking about Rio.. Even discounting his last two or three years, he was still class for 4 or 5 years..
I'd be quite content with ADM leaving TBH.
Ain't those bastards transfer banned? Yet you see them linked with host of players every passing day.
Di Maria deserves more time here. Clearly has some quality.
I'd rather Memphis be given the starting spot personally. That guy is going to blossom into the best in the world!
I don't get the worry about Ramos' age. A player declining rapidly around age 30 is a risk. You could also buy a world class player in his mid 20s and he could totally flop for this team and in this league.
Every transfer is a risk. If top class quality is available, then go for it.
He has an impressive injury record, and plays 40+ games a season, every season. I'd guess he's got more years left in the tank than Schweinstiger, who has been plagued with injury.
Every transfer is a risk. If top class quality is available, then go for it.
He has an impressive injury record, and plays 40+ games a season, every season. I'd guess he's got more years left in the tank than Schweinstiger, who has been plagued with injury.
I'm 32, you can imagine how I look. I walk with the stick and feel my bones every time weather changes.I know exactly what you fear.. I am 30 and I already forgot the password to login to the caf!! Luckily I auto saved the password when i was 29 years and 364 days and it just lets me in!!
Wait?! Where am I?! What is this place?!
I agree. Despite his not so impressive first season he still made more assists than any other player in the league last year barring Fabregas if I remember rightly.
MEN should do a "Di Maria: Get Messi" frontpage.
Every player has a gamble involved.
But some on here seem to think that because it is Ramos and he is a Madrid player with alot of experience they are actually taking less of a gamble than with Otamendi and I think people could be wrong in that.
For starters Ramos would come here out of anger with Madrid and because we are offering him a shitload of money in wages. I don't think that is such a good motivation, ok it is good enough reasons to get him here, but when he is here will he give his 100% like he does when he plays for Madrid or Spain Idk ? He may suddenly become less interested and less involved, not saying that is what will happen but it is a possibility.
Whilst for a player like Otamendi United would be a step up in his career and he'll feel more the need to proof himself than a player like Ramos does.
Idk if and when Ramos will decline but I do know he is 2 years older than Otamendi.
Also comparring them this current season I actually think Otampendi been more impressive as a defender than Ramos.
So yea those are the reasons I feel Ramos is a far riskier signing that Otamendi and also more expensive in transfer fee and probably twice as expensive in wages.
The people I would sign if I had the choice:
-Cech (but that one is out the window), next best thing: Lloris
-Fabinho
-Otamendi
-Schneiderlin
-Lacazette
And if available Schweinsteiger because his contract is running out and he won't cost that much because of it so the risk with him is atleast coverred because there isn't a massive transfer fee involved.
I'd be very happy with those signings and I think they would immediatly improve the team and can lay a foundation on which we could be building for years to come.
- Status