Well it appears we have tried for a couple of their players, so perhaps we should wait and see what happens. It's not really silly money either, you're over reacting.
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Well it appears we have tried for a couple of their players, so perhaps we should wait and see what happens. It's not really silly money either, you're over reacting.
£46.5m for a 29 year old defender is silly money noting overreacting about that !
We have no possibility of keeping ddg, stop deluding yourself
If someone had said a few months ago that we have a possibility if signing Ramos, we'd have snapped their hand off
If someone had said a few months ago that we have a possibility if signing Ramos, we'd have snapped their hand off
Euros not pounds
Not for £46.5m and there is a possibility of keeping DDG that is fact whether we will do that is another thing entirely.
Good move for Nordfeldt, he impressed at Heerenveen. Wonder if he'll be the new #1 though?
The amounts thrown around in the media is £46.5m pounds or €65m euro !
For €46.5m I'd not be making such a fuzz
But that doesn't fit the offer we supposedly made unless we value DDG at 16.5m euro (which is like £11.8m) which would be crazy to say the least !
Ddg is gone, give it up and move on. Have a cry or whatever you need to do to process it and you can move on with a nice summer
Come on, De Gea has made up his mind months ago, crystal clear. He has had 2 offers, do you think those offers came the last few weeks? He's gone.
Wouldn't mind Ramos, although I don't like him as a person. One of the most experienced and skillful defenders out there though.
Wouldn't mind Ramos, although I don't like him as a person. One of the most experienced and skillful defenders out there though.
All the reports I've seen have been In euros
I just wish they would get on with selling DDG and stop trying to be clever, great if it comes off. If it doesn't we will look stupid and it might just disrail all our transfer business.
How many times have you seen a player on his last year, refusing to sign a new contract, go for much more than that?
It's in the ball park of where I'd expect. We ain't getting much more than that
One day soon Woodwoodwood will hit us with a whammy, BANG BANG BANG how's that for a summer transfer window!
Who gives a feck about the cost, he is a top class CB who has won everything there is to win. IT'S NOT OUR MONEY.
My thoughts exactly. Not rating him is fair enough but moaning about transfer fee is just silly!
Kroos last year to Real Madrid he moved for €30m
I consider De Gea more valuable than Kroos.
Dortmund refused €25m for Lewandowski from Bayern because they thought he was more worth more than that even with only 1 more year on his contract
Heck we even paid more than that for Kagawa (€20m+) whose contract only had 1 more year left
We paid €30m+ for RVP with only 1 year on his contract
Just on from top of my head here, certain I can find alot more if I'd dig a bit deeper.
You'll find that while we work in GBP, Madrid work in Euros, which has taken a comparative hit recently.
That shouldn't negatively affect us, it should work in our favour, you should see higher € figures...
Jezus obviously it is hyphotetical, if you'd bother to read it than you clearly see the phrase if it goes through...
Which I think is quite implicit in a thread where we are discussing rumours.
I have read the entire post. Massive overreaction for something you rightly put as hypothetical. Let it happen first and then go on a rampage.
I personally don't think we will come out looking worse from this De Gea transfer. It quite clear we are not playing ball and hence it is held up till now.
Still the question was how many players do you know who were in the last year of their contract that moved for more than €16.5m (because apparently that was a fair valuation for DDG from the poster). My answer many whom I consider to be less valuable than DDG.
It works in our favor when we are buying, i.e we have to pay lesser to meet the Euro valuation of selling clubs, especially if the amount is fixed with release clauses. It works against us while selling though.
Just an FYI - I see the same thing on Chrome and Firefox on all my android devices plus Win 7 and 8 computers. I didn't alert you guys because I figured it was a notice you'd get rid of after a few weeks.
edit: I know it has been said by others, but thanks to all involved in setting up the two threads. Great addition to the site.
Dortmund made a huge mistake, they should have sold Lewandowski and use the money to replace him.
And all the players you mentioned were subject to several offers which obviously raised the prices up.
Finally, De Gea who is a goalkeeper at no point worth more than Toni Kroos.
we dont have much choice, do we.
Top 3 GK in the world and mich more valuable to us than Kroos was to Bayern. A player is worth what we think he is worth and DDG is nearly invaluable to us. So all these bs about €20m for him or lower is ridiculously low as far as I'am concerned.
How about we use pounds instead of euros to make the fee look bigger.
Rvp was 21m. Kagawa was 16-18. Kroos was 20m and is a better midfielder than ddg is a keeper.
They ALL had other teams bidding for them, even if kagawa only had liverpool and supposedly madrid.
Ddg does not there is only one team in the frame.
By precedent (as it seems this is what we go by on here for some reason) anything over 20m for ddg would be 'a good deal'
I doubt it unless fabianski is moving. Both swanseas 2nd and 3rd choice gk have left this summer so most likely replacements for them.
Have some camomile tea and take a nice walk. Unless of course you are raving as a result of some emotional transference from an actual problem, in which case feel free to vent.
Our keeper is going next year for nowt or this year for about 20 million euros, if we can use it as leverage to obtain an otherwise unobtainable player then so be it. I'm not a huge fan of Ramos but he might do a good job here, one of the main criticisms I have of this United side is how passive they are when things are not going our way. He'd sort that issue in second gear.
He is invaluable to you, for me he is very valuable only if he stays more than a year.
I think it is rather amusing that on one side you are fighting like crazy over the fees for Ramos and then suggesting that it won't be a bad idea if we kept DDG. I have no issues in us making DDG play out his contract but if you are genuinely so obsessed with the financial side then surely that makes much lesser sense.
Madrid allegedly made a low ball 13 million pound offer. So if that is how they rate DDG, I don't think we should rate Ramos any higher than 20 million pounds considering he will be on much higher wages and won't have any resale value.
I don't think it is just the fee he is getting mad at. He seems to be pissed off at the fact that Madrid will get a top notch GK who is yet to enter his prime along with a lot of cash for a defender they will replace with that cash. So basically we will be shafted by losing DDG for far less than Madrid will be getting for Ramos. It's the "getting shafted" part which is irking many fans, including me, because the whole situation seems to be engineered.
We will only have a limited transfer budget, even if that limit might be up to £150M, if we spunk it all on overpriced players, it won't leave enough left to strengthen the squad overall.
I'm sure management know what they're doing.
Good luck trying to sign probably the best defender in the world for 20m.
Also Ramos doesn't have only one year left in his contract, nor has he indicated he'll only move to United. The comparison is pointless.
I am sure they do, but the post was in response to "IT'S NOT OUR MONEY". It doesn't matter whose money it is, they still have to work to a budget, otherwise lets just pay Messi & Ronaldo's buyout clauses and off we go!
Thiago Silva is better. Based on this season alone, I'd argue Pique is too.
That's one way to look at it.
Another way to look at it is that we are going to lose ddg one way or the other. I see no point forcing someone to stay when he clearly wants to leave.
Lastly we desperately need a top notch CB. We have a chance to obtain an otherwise unobtainable top defender. What's not to like?
Good luck trying to sign probably the best defender in the world for 20m.
Also Ramos doesn't have only one year left in his contract, nor has he indicated he'll only move to United. The comparison is pointless.
A. He is NOT the best defender in the world.
B. Madrid are valuing DDG at 18 million euros. You think, taking that into account, Ramos (at 29) should be valued at 50 million euros by us? Plus he has two years on his contract. If Madrid are not willing to play ball, they can DDG for free next summer while we shop for a replacement next season and hopefully have our backline sorted out by that time. It is not like too many top GKs are looking for a move this season anyway.
Yeah and I'm sure they are working within the budget regardless of what we offer.
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