Point is we made the mistake of losing him to Real when we went for Jones ahead of him. For me, Varane has a much higher ceiling than McNair who does not have Varane's calmness. McNair goes to bits as soon as he makes an error while Varane seems to have a very calm and mature head on his shoulders. If we have the chance to sign him, we should not let go of that chance just because we are worried about McNair's progress. You don't let go of the opportunity of signing such talents for someone like McNair.
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Otamendi = rock
Yeah, that's who I'm hoping for as well. I'm watching the space Woody!
tbf to McNair its his first season as part of the first team
Not denying that, but Varane is already a starter for someone like Madrid.
Like SATA said, Varane is just another name tossed out there, a muppet 'signing', that won't happen.
Varane should be further along the path, given the company & level (World Cup & Champions League) he's played in - I'm not sure he isn't approaching his ceiling to be honest. He can be so calm (the polar opposite of Jones), that he sleeps, rather like Valencia is guilty of. As I've said, not the player we need but if that 'Vidic' type buy is not forthcoming.... Who would you partner him with? It would have to be Smalling & that frightens the life out of me - both dozzy buggers at times.
I see Varane as a Rio type player. Sure he has some concentration issues at times but he is still an infant when you consider defenders. Not to mention that he has already played at the highest level for both club and country and has handled the pressure very well.
As for the Vidic comment, put it this way, would you give up the chance to sign a young Rio because you are unsure of finding a Vida to partner him in the future? I am not saying we are going to get Varane, but if the opportunity presents itself we should be all over it like rash and not worry about someone like McNair who I am not sure even has a long term future here as a first choice CB.
I've thought the same about Geis.
(Never actually seen him play. Just judging based off the opinions of those who have.)
We haven't bid €50m for Felipe Anderson, I just don't believe that. Such bid would have been accepted immediately and he'd have been signed by now, easily.
Another factor is from all reports both Otamendi and his agent stated that he is leaving Valencia, he really wants to play for us (he has a few mates here already)...Just like Rojo players that actually want to play for us will excel on the pitch.
I am not sure what is taking so long to wrap up such a straightfoward transfer unless LVG/Woodie really think that Hummels will come here and he has been quoted as saying he is staying at BVB....but I am sure LVG/Woodie are seasoned enough to know that we should not wait until the end of the window or else we end up with our Plan C...who is probably Stones.
Felipe Anderson is worth nowhere near that IMO and neither have we bid such an outrageous amount for him.
Ridiculous comparrison.. Like comparing Rooney to Barkley, ones far more experienced.. Isnt Varane a good few years older too?
Indeed. We'd have probably put half that amount as opening bid and could get him for €30m. €50m is silly talk.
Very little riskSchneiderlin is cheap as chips at £25M & no risk.
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I have no idea, whoever is our Bundesliga scout is obviously not doing the job properly.
Another question is do we actually need another winger?
We have Di maria, Young, Mata, Januzaj and Depay for the wings....unless Di Maria is off (who has stated he will be here next season)
2 years older.
I think if a young defender at another club had burst onto the scene out of nowhere and performed as well as McNair did in a lot of games last season then us as fans would certainly expect United to be looking at them - he definitely had a couple of poor games last season but overall I think it was a very exciting first season from McNair.
You seem well versed. How did Varanes first season go?or in fact any defender appearing for a top side at his age.. Cant imagine there are many, most migrate over mid 20s
fair pointSchneiderlin is cheap as chips at £25M & no risk.
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Schneiderlin is the least risky of our transfers and should have been wrapped up already IMO.
He is not expensive and is a proven EPL CDM/CM...and is exactly what we need.
Exactly, we should tie it up quickly regardless of Swine's tiger
How is it ridiculous? McNair is 20 and Varane is 22. Varane is a French international and the first choice CB for Madrid while McNair just got his breakthrough and is a bit part player. The only thing ridiculous was the initial question which asked if both are of similar levels!
The ridiculous comment was at the person making the comparison, sorry if that wasnt you, must have read too quickly.. One has over 100 first team appearances
Preferably i would partner Varane with Hummels, with his pace and Hummels composure and know how it would be a perfect combo.
In fairness Varane immediately impressed when he first got into the Lens side, and he did get his first team break a year earlier than McNair did career wise (he was 18, whereas McNair was 19). I seem to remember he was heavily linked with a move in the January of 2011 - United were one of the clubs in for him - which considering he only had 3 months of first team football behind him showed just how impressive he was.
It is worth mentioning however, that in his first 3 seasons at Real he made 9, 15 and 14 appearances in the league (although he did play most of their European matches in this time), whereas McNair made 16 appearances last season in the Premier League and if he does push on next season then we do have a centre half with a serious amount of potential in our own ranks.
Varane will go on to be a world class centre half, that much is obvious. But I think we definitely under-rate how quickly McNair has progressed this season and if we see similar next season then it wouldn't be unreasonable to compare their career paths.
That would be a very interesting combination, take us right up their in the league of best pairing but there's no way that's happening. If Varane comes in, he partners Smalling, which could be great, in 2 or three seasons.
This Gianluca Di Marzio guy might be worth putting on the banned tweet list for this thread. His tweet that we might be signing Jerome Boateng was about as clueless and ridiculous as it gets...At least make up something that sounds believable you lemon
He cannot play for more than two clubs during one season, he hasn't played even for one in 15-16 yet.
Fabinho would be a very clever signing. Him, Schneiderlin, Firmino and Depay would be clever business.
He's not better than Jones at this time and he is only one year younger. Smalling is clearly better than both.
Maybe when he'll be 25 Varane will be better than Smalling, but to suggest he already is... that's just laughable. It's ridiculous how much this kid is overrated here, probably has some high rating in FIFA or something, because it's clearly not based of his performances.
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