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scorgasm said:
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If I were Woody, I would turn off the fax, keep my phone off the hook and not listen to my voice mails if Madrid are actually planning that insulting bid. Let that fecker Perez come crawling on his knees with a blank cheque if he wants DDG so bad this summer.
 

Jonas Giæver‏@CheGiaevara
Plaza Deportiva reporting that the official instructions for Nicolas Otamendi's possible transfer are coming directly from Peter Lim himself
Valencia are very aware of Manchester United's interest in him, and they know Otamendi's intention is to go there. They will DEMAND €50m.
 
Otamendi seems bound to end up here, wouldn't say no to him, probably one of the most in-form defenders at the moment.
 
Suggs said:

Jonas Giæver‏@CheGiaevara
Plaza Deportiva reporting that the official instructions for Nicolas Otamendi's possible transfer are coming directly from Peter Lim himself
Valencia are very aware of Manchester United's interest in him, and they know Otamendi's intention is to go there. They will DEMAND €50m.
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FFS. Well, I don't think we have any other choice.
 
Suggs said:

Jonas Giæver‏@CheGiaevara
Plaza Deportiva reporting that the official instructions for Nicolas Otamendi's possible transfer are coming directly from Peter Lim himself
Valencia are very aware of Manchester United's interest in him, and they know Otamendi's intention is to go there. They will DEMAND €50m.
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if I was Woodie I'd submit a £30M (€42M) bid for Otamendi to get the ball rolling.
 
LennonNL said:
That's ridiculous. A player should have a vague price regardless of who's buying him. Obviously, should he spark a bidding war then his price will increase but it's plain stupid from Lim to want €20m more just because it's United bidding.

I hope we don't pay it.
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It isn't more is it? I thought it has always been 50m euros.
 
Señor said:
You're not being serious, are you? We are the kings at overspending and getting our trousers pulled down with every other transfer.

You've mentioned release clauses for Gotze and Martinez, who were wanted by all the top clubs in Europe and Bayern got them for below or on pair for their value. Rakitic's release clause was pish. And Suarez and Neymar were worth every penny.

You've also missed the point entirely. It's not about not paying the release clause, it's about not paying over the odds due to clubs knowing we have a lot of money.
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All top clubs pay over the odds. Barcelona paid €30m for that Shakhtar defender who wasn't worth a quarter of that, Real Madrid constantly pay over the odds to land players they want (James, Bale) and so do Barcelona. You might have a case for Bayern being considerate with their spending but nearly all top clubs pay high fees to land their targets. If Otamendi costs €50m and there's no way to bring that value down by negotiating with Valencia then we should at least consider this and evaluate Otamendi's possible influence on our team, which could be huge, and assess whether he's worth that sort of outlay or not - not base our decision on 'we don't want to pay release clause' notion.
 
SmashedHombre said:
Real are known for paying ridiculously OTT prices for the latest flavour of the month players, so how do we always so consistently get ripped off them for proven quality?
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In the case of Ruud and Beckham, Fergie wanted them out so we were not in a strong bargaining position. Ronaldo's fee was world record so I am not sure it can be considered a rip off. As for De Gea, people really need to accept that defensive players do not command the highest fees. Some like to make it as though goalkeepers and defenders are just as important but they're not. There is a reason most Ballon d'Or winners and the players viewed as the best ever do not come from those positions. Add that to the fact that it's the last year of his contract and that they have no competition for his signature and I am not sure why do people expect us to get good money for him. Kroos was sold for 20 millions just last year and he was in a similar situation, he was not even desperate to leave like De Gea is. So this idea that it's a major crazy rip off is really not based on any strong argument IMO.
 
50m euros is roughly £36.5m. That is still quite a lot for a 27 year old centre-back. If that is true then Peter Lim is trying to fleece us because it's 'Man United'.
We should go in with a €40m bid and see what happens.
 
Sarni said:
All top clubs pay over the odds. Barcelona paid €30m for that Shakhtar defender who wasn't worth a quarter of that, Real Madrid constantly pay over the odds to land players they want (James, Bale) and so do Barcelona. You might have a case for Bayern being considerate with their spending but nearly all top clubs pay high fees to land their targets. If Otamendi costs €50m and there's no way to bring that value down by negotiating with Valencia then we should at least consider this and evaluate Otamendi's possible influence on our team, which could be huge, and assess whether he's worth that sort of outlay or not - not base our decision on 'we don't want to pay release clause' notion.
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I agree with everything on here. The narrative changes very quickly around here. Just last year, all we heard is how the major clubs don't mess around and pay the going rate and how we should follow their example and stop trying to negotiate the best deal. Now that we've done that and we're not doing so well, suddenly it's the other way around and the other big clubs have become the shining example of how we should conduct our business. This barren trophy less two years has seriously messed up with people's heads. All you hear is complaints about how everything our club is doing is wrong and we should follow the example of "insert current successful team".
 


Drive that price up for City, please.
 
Theonas said:
I agree with everything on here. The narrative changes very quickly around here. Just last year, all we heard is how the major clubs don't mess around and pay the going rate and how we should follow their example and stop trying to negotiate the best deal. Now that we've done that and we're not doing so well, suddenly it's the other way around and the other big clubs have become the shining example of how we should conduct our business. This barren trophy less two years has seriously messed up with people's heads. All you hear is complaints about how everything our club is doing is wrong and we should follow the example of "insert current successful team".
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Exactly. We shouldn't pay over the odds deliberately just to show off how much money we have (like I think we did with Di Maria last year unfortunately) but there can be instances where we might need to overpay to land a player that strengthens us. Remember we're a top club and players who fit the bill when it comes to what's needed here are hard to come by, I wouldn't like to miss out on a potential world class star only because the intention is to keep the cost lower. There are very, very few good center halves that are available (in fact there are very few top class center halves in football right now period), if Otamendi is really as good as they say then he might actually be worth the sort of money Valencia are asking for.
 
Sarni said:
Exactly. We shouldn't pay over the odds deliberately just to show off how much money we have (like I think we did with Di Maria last year unfortunately) but there can be instances where we might need to overpay to land a player that strengthens us. Remember we're a top club and players who fit the bill when it comes to what's needed here are hard to come by, I wouldn't like to miss out on a potential world class star only because the intention is to keep the cost lower. There are very, very few good center halves that are available (in fact there are very few top class center halves in football right now period), if Otamendi is really as good as they say then he might actually be worth the sort of money Valencia are asking for.
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I do agree with the principle of paying what it takes if it meant the player improves us even if it's over the odds. However, I really think that the only players who can make that big of a difference are the attacking minded ones. I think that especially in modern football, defending is no longer about the individuals. This can be clearly seen when you look at the top teams in Europe. People have been harping on about Barcelona needing to invest in their defence but they ignored all those calls and instead invested in making their attack even more potent and look where they are now. Bayern also invested in an ageing unknown (Dante) and a Man City reject and it didn't work out too badly for them. In short, I think the lack of top class defenders like you put it has a very a good reason behind it so whereas I would be all for splashing a world record fee on a Reus, Bale or even someone like Pogba. I just don't think it's worth doing the same for a defender as I just view their individual contribution in terms of old fashioned pure defensive skills less relevant in the modern game relatively of course.
 
James Parkin said:
i'd rather we gave de


I'd rather we gave him to Atletico for free, than take that insult.
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Same here. Everyone knows RM has the stronger position but they don't have to dicks about it. Pay what would the going rate for a world-class GK, not for someone who might compete to the #1. Heck they paid 10 mil for Navas just last year.

If they continue in this manner, we should just let him run down the contract, hopefully winning a title or two. Once we've put the title in the bank & he's signed a pre- contract agreement w/ RM, I wouldn't mind seeing a few crosses where some teammates aren't so zealous in creating space for him. Serve RM right to see him crocked (this diatribe all based on RM's current negotiating tactics).
 
scorgasm said:
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How long before Sepp Blatter comes out with one of his classic comments, something along the lines of:

"Manchester United are treating De Gea as a slave, they are a football club who treats all their players as slaves. They have shackled him with an iron ball around his ankle and only Real Madrid has the key to unlock it"

This whole saga is boring now, but Real are taking the piss there. Ed needs to get back on the phone and make a smartarse bid for one of their players.
 
ManUSarge said:
What worries me about this one is that we are in for him because he is Dutch and not because he is good. Now that DDG is seemingly off and Cech and Lloris don't seem to be very likely to me, we may be looking for what we can get. I don't know but I would almost rather give Valdes a chance than the see Cillessen here just because he's Dutch and LVG can get him.
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According to that Telegraph article, last season his stats were better than DDG in almost all areas. Maybe the manager rates him.
 
I can't ever recall a decent tweet from Keegan. Still hasn't bathed and shaved by the looks of his Twitter pic either.
 
Zoo said:
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That's awful cheap but good business from Barcelona if he somehow hits his potential they'll be able to buy-back for a cut price within the first two years.
 
If it's negative news, it's a given that people will believe it. No one knows what United and Real Madrid are talking about, nevermind Dailymail.
 
Zoo said:
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Great deal for Everton, tricky part is about Barcelona having buy back clause inserted - £5m next year and £7m in two years I think but in all honesty I cannot see them triggering that.
 
Sarni said:
Great deal for Everton, tricky part is about Barcelona having buy back clause inserted - £5m next year and £7m in two years I think but in all honesty I cannot see them triggering that.
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Why not, he does reasonably well, they trigger the clause and sell him to a bigger PL club for double.
 
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