Transfer Tweets - Manchester United - 2024/25

Remember the geese said:
Performances still very underwhelming. Hasn't even made himself a starter over an underpar Garnacho.
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To me it looks like Amorim is rotating and giving every player a fair chance rather than making decisions on his starters this early. But that’s enough of off-topic stuff from me.
 
Tom Van Persie said:


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This reads like another ploy for United to cut some more costs. They see Berrada as being capable enough of focusing on the football matters alongside Wilcox (who focuses more on the youth side of things). This leads me to believe that the head coach will become more like a manager, so Amorim may have more responsibilities himself.
 
mazhar13 said:
This reads like another ploy for United to cut some more costs. They see Berrada as being capable enough of focusing on the football matters alongside Wilcox (who focuses more on the youth side of things). This leads me to believe that the head coach will become more like a manager, so Amorim may have more responsibilities himself.
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Not sure it's really about money. Maybe partly that Vivell came in during the summer and has stuck around so maybe too many cooks.
 
sparx99 said:
Not sure it's really about money. Maybe partly that Vivell came in during the summer and has stuck around so maybe too many cooks.
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That'd make sense if we were just focusing on the men's team. Ashworth's responsibilities also included the women's team, and with him gone, there's no one to really run that team at this time. On the men's side, with Wilcox managing the youth pipeline, Vivell involved in the recruitment side of things, and Berrada getting more involved in communicating and building up relations with other clubs and players, yeah, Ashworth may have been one too many a cook.
 
mazhar13 said:
That'd make sense if we were just focusing on the men's team. Ashworth's responsibilities also included the women's team, and with him gone, there's no one to really run that team at this time. On the men's side, with Wilcox managing the youth pipeline, Vivell involved in the recruitment side of things, and Berrada getting more involved in communicating and building up relations with other clubs and players, yeah, Ashworth may have been one too many a cook.
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We are just focusing on the Men’s team though right? Ratcliffe has repeatedly dismissed the Women’s team.
 
sparx99 said:
We are just focusing on the Men’s team though right? Ratcliffe has repeatedly dismissed the Women’s team.
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Ashworth was one person (probably the only one in the football leadership) who was also focused on the women's team. That played a part (albeit small) in Ashworth leaving the club.
 
mazhar13 said:
This reads like another ploy for United to cut some more costs. They see Berrada as being capable enough of focusing on the football matters alongside Wilcox (who focuses more on the youth side of things). This leads me to believe that the head coach will become more like a manager, so Amorim may have more responsibilities himself.
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So back to the same situation we've had post-Ferguson that everyone had agreed needed to change... great
 
Manchester United in very advanced negotiations to sign Diego León, a 17-year-old left back from Cerro Porteño.
The transfer figure is agreed at US$4M and several aspects are discussed, including what % of the economic rights the club will keep

 
mazhar13 said:
That'd make sense if we were just focusing on the men's team. Ashworth's responsibilities also included the women's team, and with him gone, there's no one to really run that team at this time. On the men's side, with Wilcox managing the youth pipeline, Vivell involved in the recruitment side of things, and Berrada getting more involved in communicating and building up relations with other clubs and players, yeah, Ashworth may have been one too many a cook.
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INEOS doesn’t care about the women’s team. If they results start to drop, he’ll close them down at the earliest opportunity.
 
aeh1991 said:
This is good news. The sales of players like Dalot, Martinez, Garnacho or Rashford need to be considered, regardless of their status and what they have cost.
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It's the same approach to the previous summer. A few untouchable players, a few we will actively shop then the rest we will listen to offers for. Doesn't mean they will all go though.

It will be interesting to see if we can move anyone on in January.
 
At least everyone seems to have come to terms with the fact that most of our players simply aren't good enough regardless of what system they're asked to play in.
 
Interesting to see how we have gone from "one of the best squads since SAF" to "we need a major rebuild and half the squad needs to be binned" in a matter of few months.

We will be stuck in a perpetual rebuild, I fear.
 
Highfather_24 said:
Interesting to see how we have gone from "one of the best squads since SAF" to "we need a major rebuild and half the squad needs to be binned" in a matter of few months.

We will be stuck in a perpetual rebuild, I fear.
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I don't think it's as bad as that. If we consider onana, mazraoui, de ligt, yoro, martinez, dalot, mainoo, Bruno, diallo, mount, garnacho, hojlund, ugarte all worthy of being part of a squad, then add some of the young guys coming through, next summer looking to let go of

Lindelof, Casemiro, shaw, rashford, Antony is pretty reasonable. 5 in 5 out isn't a massive rebuild and there's 13 plus 1 sub keeper above, so 5 in makes 19,plus likes of amass, kone, martin... You're close to a squad there. Its recruiting the next 5 that's key.
 
Highfather_24 said:
Interesting to see how we have gone from "one of the best squads since SAF" to "we need a major rebuild and half the squad needs to be binned" in a matter of few months.

We will be stuck in a perpetual rebuild, I fear.
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I think it's just a smarter approach that we are taking instead of hoarding players. Most of the squad can only be considered untouchable if you are winning league titles and even then if you look at City, they weren't afraid to move players on that they felt were getting too old or just thought were replaceable.

And player sales are arguably more important than ever especially in our current financial state.
 
Highfather_24 said:
Interesting to see how we have gone from "one of the best squads since SAF" to "we need a major rebuild and half the squad needs to be binned" in a matter of few months.

We will be stuck in a perpetual rebuild, I fear.
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To be clear, we do have the best squad since Ferguson.

It's just nowhere near good enough.
 
SER19 said:
I don't think it's as bad as that. If we consider onana, mazraoui, de ligt, yoro, martinez, dalot, mainoo, Bruno, diallo, mount, garnacho, hojlund, ugarte all worthy of being part of a squad, then add some of the young guys coming through, next summer looking to let go of

Lindelof, Casemiro, shaw, rashford, Antony is pretty reasonable. 5 in 5 out isn't a massive rebuild and there's 13 plus 1 sub keeper above, so 5 in makes 19,plus likes of amass, kone, martin... You're close to a squad there. Its recruiting the next 5 that's key.
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Mostly agree - Dalot has been crap for quite a while though!

Lindelof will walk in the summer, but then the problem is the others are all under contract until 2026-2028 and have insane wages - Casemiro (£340k), Shaw (£150k), Rashford (£325k), Antony (£200k) - that's over £1m a week on players we are trying to move on...
 
aeh1991 said:
This is good news. The sales of players like Dalot, Martinez, Garnacho or Rashford need to be considered, regardless of their status and what they have cost.
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Dalot or Garnacho aren't going anywhere, nor did they cost much.
 
Tom Van Persie said:
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Despite people constantly complaining about our scouts, the scouts have actually done a pretty decent job over the last few years identifying talents, the problem has just been our managers and those in charge not following through.

Players like Caicedo, Enzo and Alvarez were ones we had supposedly identified previously. I'm glad the decision was made to bring Amad in and it is good that we pushed to get Yoro in this summer, hopefully this is the start of us aggressively pursuing and signing the best young talents around.
 
Foolsgold21 said:
Mostly agree - Dalot has been crap for quite a while though!

Lindelof will walk in the summer, but then the problem is the others are all under contract until 2026-2028 and have insane wages - Casemiro (£340k), Shaw (£150k), Rashford (£325k), Antony (£200k) - that's over £1m a week on players we are trying to move on...
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I think people overreact. If 2 years ago we said 'lets rebuild the squad' then surely you'd allow at least 2-3 years to achieve it. Its going pretty well and in actual fact we were probably only a couple of missteps away from being much further along. Just look at what a high quality player like Palmer does to those around him. I was watching bayern last night and just imagining we had got Olise and having him as one of amorims 10s. Hes levels above what we have there, but 2-3 top players can improve so much. Despite soft goals lately our defence is much improved by mazraoui and de ligt and that's before yoro is up and running.

For arguments sake, imagine this team but with Olise and a top left full back. All of a sudden it doesn't look anywhere near as weak. To compete at the top, you can't have 1 passenger in starting line up. As it stands we have 2-3 per game. 2-3 top additions changes so much

We absolutely don't need a rebuild, we're in the middle of a rebuild and we have about 14 players plus youth that i think would make part of a successful squad. If we get next summer right, i think the squad will be in excellent shape
 
SER19 said:
I think people overreact. If 2 years ago we said 'lets rebuild the squad' then surely you'd allow at least 2-3 years to achieve it. Its going pretty well and in actual fact we were probably only a couple of missteps away from being much further along. Just look at what a high quality player like Palmer does to those around him. I was watching bayern last night and just imagining we had got Olise and having him as one of amorims 10s. Hes levels above what we have there, but 2-3 top players can improve so much. Despite soft goals lately our defence is much improved by mazraoui and de ligt and that's before yoro is up and running.

For arguments sake, imagine this team but with Olise and a top left full back. All of a sudden it doesn't look anywhere near as weak. To compete at the top, you can't have 1 passenger in starting line up. As it stands we have 2-3 per game. 2-3 top additions changes so much

We absolutely don't need a rebuild, we're in the middle of a rebuild and we have about 14 players plus youth that i think would make part of a successful squad. If we get next summer right, i think the squad will be in excellent shape
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I know the result was poor but our team had an average age of 24 at the weekend. It’s mostly a young team that can be built upon and supplemented.

In some ways it’s like we 12-18months behind Chelsea in that regard. Look how poor they were and how quickly things changed when one of the signings hit the ground running and they got the right coach in.
 
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