Transfer Tweets - Manchester United - 2023/24

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Why should Sociedad behave any different to every other club we deal with...£2m fee offer with half his wages covered, incoming....

Thing is, look at the transfer fees for any club not in the Premier League that isn't one of the major players in Europe. They're miniscule.
 
Real sociedad bidding as one of their top targets for donny per Fabrizio Romano. 16 mins ago. (I don’t know how to insert media)
 
Guardian article changed to £30m for Amrabat.

Reasonable if we get £15m or so for Fred.
 
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I'm posting this to show that West Ham are the only club to have submitted an offer for Sofyan Amrabat.
 
Which is why, unless the regulars, Stones/Ornstein, post it I am usually skeptical of our interests in players. Even more so if it is coming from just journalist in a source country.
 
Don't really understand why people think we shouldn't sell him at that price. West Ham might not raise it and we'll be stuck with him. He adds absolutely nothing to this team. Take your loss. Plus at 20mil we might not even have to buy him out, so what's the point? We'll never get 40 in a million years.

Because a replacement will cost even more?
We may as well keep him at that price.
He's on a 6 year contract, with 26.6 m left of book-value so it will be a loss (which it seems like you've said).
With 19.3m of wages saved over two years if they are willing to give him the same contract.
So at best we will have 12.7 m (19.3m - 6.6 m loss) to fund a new CB, assuming we don't have any extra money lying around of course.

If they were offering 40 m then we would have roughly 33 m to play around with, factoring in saved wages plus the 13.3m in money gained for a new CB, which still might not be enough to fund for a new purchase.
 
I think you're looking at it from a top club fan and I'm looking at it from a smaller club fan so we have different perspectives. I agree with you that Hojlund will end up leaving Atalanta this summer or the next one at the latest but as you said he's only been there, in a top league, for a year. Haaland with a bigger hype stayed 2 years at Dortmund.
Atalanta are in no rush to sell him this summer for €60M, because they know the market for top strikers is around 100-120M (Osimhen, Kane, Kolo Muani) and if he has a good second season they could get that kind of fee next summer, while keeping his services for this season since they also are pretty ambitious and well ran. Also you need to account for the striker market, there arent that many targets outside of him, the 3 I mentioned and Vlahovic and many top clubs are looking for one and a few of those clubs will end the summer empty handed or with some second hand scraps. Atalanta are in a strong position to negotiate.

Actually, I’m looking from the players perspective specifically but also from both clubs. I do agree totally that Atlanta does not need to make any decision in a hurry as they’re aware Hojlund is targeted by some clubs and can keep him for another year, however, every transfer shall also be in a certain realistic way handled. If they put an insane price tag of 80-100 Mio., there will be almost no clubs to pay this, apart from the players decision to move to a club where he doesn’t want to be.

We did once the mistake with Martial paying over the odds and gave him an ultimate contract and now we’re having difficulties to get rid off him, just like with Harry and other companions. So at least in this aspect, I think we have learned and will give Hojlund a lower contract and with time we’ll see how he develops so we can renew.

I’d even expand the striker market apart from the ones mentioned with Ramos, Martinez and Toney, so there’s some decent players on the market. Haaland and Hojlund have some similarities at least from their professional career, both played in Austria, then went to Germany and Italy respectively and, the latter is at the point to make his next big move just like Haaland did. I really hope this deal is wrapped and we can move on.
 
£20m was always what I thought we were likely to get for Maguire considering his wages. I think a lot of people don't realise how much higher the wages we pay our players are than most clubs, especially when it comes to what we pay our average players. The clubs that would be interested in Maguire can't afford £190k per week.
This, especially when you consider his wages just went up 25% as well.
 
Because a replacement will cost even more?
We may as well keep him at that price.
He's on a 6 year contract, with 26.6 m left of book-value so it will be a loss (which it seems like you've said).
With 19.3m of wages saved over two years if they are willing to give him the same contract.
So at best we will have 12.7 m (19.3m - 6.6 m loss) to fund a new CB, assuming we don't have any extra money lying around of course.

If they were offering 40 m then we would have roughly 33 m to play around with, factoring in saved wages plus the 13.3m in money gained for a new CB, which still might not be enough to fund for a new purchase.

Dont work like that. If we get rid of Maguire to book value we get rid of a player with a year cost of £13 mill (80/6) and wages of £200k. It would likely put us in a position to bring in a new player with a similar cost. That would imply bringing in a new £80 mill player at a similar contract. If we bring in a cheaper option as a backup that is money saved.
 
Dont work like that. If we get rid of Maguire to book value we get rid of a player with a year cost of £13 mill (80/6) and wages of £200k. It would likely put us in a position to bring in a new player with a similar cost. That would imply bringing in a new £80 mill player at a similar contract. If we bring in a cheaper option as a backup that is money saved.

So you're saying that even at book value we will have 19 m left (his saved wages) on his saved wages to fund a player. And if you amortise that over a longer contract, then it seems like it's enough to fund a decent (but cheaper) replacement?
 
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Would rather let Maguire run down his contract as 5th choice than sell for anything less than £40m.
So get nothing for him and continue to pay millions more in wages. Exactly what we've been doing for years with players we don't want instead of selling them.
 
So get nothing for him and continue to pay millions more in wages. Exactly what we've been doing for years with players we don't want instead of selling them.
Yes. Youth goalkeepers who have never played PL matches are going for £20m.
 
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I'm posting this to show that West Ham are the only club to have submitted an offer for Sofyan Amrabat.

Only 6m per year but that’s on top of our existing spending from recent seasons and what we’ve already bought this season. £150 mil net was touted and we’ve Mount, Onana and probably Hojlund before we move for a midfielder.

Also the lack of an offer isn’t anything new. We’ve agreed personal terms on Mount and Onana before submitting an official bid and we still have to move on at least one midfielder as well.
 
Selling Maguire for about 35 million could make sense, not twenty. If he goes, we need a replacement and they are not cheap.
 
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