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So you would be ok to sell Mctominay for 20 m to some other club rather than 25 m to Newcastle , I hope Club is more professional than being petty .

I'm saying there is a higher price for Newcastle just like every team applies the Man Utd tax.
 
The Geordies wanted 50m for Longstaff. I’d say Scott is a better player than him, they can’t have it all their own way.

Buying offloads/defunct goods is not the same as buying potential. Trying to compare and equate the two markets is idiotic.

It's rare we sell to cash in on someone it's nearly always selling from a position of wishing a player gone. We'll always receive less under those conditions unless there's competition for the player.
 
Tier 2:

  • Striker is the #1 priority
    • Money's been set aside for a club-record signing
  • A younger midfielder is the 2nd priority
    • Sales will be required to fund a major purchase here
    • More attainable options in the shortlist alongside names such as Frenkie de Jong and Jude Bellingham
 
Tier 2:

  • Striker is the #1 priority
    • Money's been set aside for a club-record signing
  • A younger midfielder is the 2nd priority
    • Sales will be required to fund a major purchase here
    • More attainable options in the shortlist alongside names such as Frenkie de Jong and Jude Bellingham

That’s a great picture. Well played Luckhurst!
 
Jesus Brobbey has to be miles down list,out of the others it would be Kolo-Muani but suspect Bayern will take him after we have been priced out for Kane. Then it's about hoping Abraham/Vlahovic could step up which is possible I suppose

Goncalo Ramos and Rasmus Hojlund would surely be ahead of Brobbey.
 
Sorry forgot about Hojlund and just can't shake this underwhelming feel over Ramos despite that hattrick in World Cup

Honestly, the list of players who would improve our front is incredibly long! I think Brobbey would be massively underwhelming though. Kind of reminds me of Breel Embolo but even less talented.
 
Goncalo Ramos and Rasmus Hojlund would surely be ahead of Brobbey.
If we can’t get a Osimhen or a Kane
I’d be much more open to a young prospect like Hojlund or Ferguson than someone like Brobbey.

Is Sesko still an option? Would we look at Mane? Would he look at us?!! I think we have options if we are quick.
 
Honestly, the list of players who would improve our front is incredibly long! I think Brobbey would be massively underwhelming though. Kind of reminds me of Breel Embolo but even less talented.

Yeah very apt comparison
 
While I agree on a main point - Rabiot not elite - and admitting I didn't watch any Leicester games in full, I still wonder how low you aim.

There's a number of ifs in both cases, and even when met, they're Fred/McT replacements at best, aren't they? And one of them will make noise, that's almost a given.

You want to add a dickhead for being a dickhead, and a could-get-back because he's exactly that? I'd rather not; point being if incoming players aren't proven top tier guys, but fillers, you might as well go with promising talents that are Reds already. I'd rather spend big on few guys, one at a time, spend the salary money more acutely, and broadcast the message that you don't wear this jersey if you're tier b. Leicester is a place for such mediocrity.

Edit: @golden_blunder wait until I post a limerick for you! ;)
We need some midfielder though and it doesn't look like our budget is going to stretch enough. Rabiot and Tielemans are both upgrades on McTominay and Fred, and they have more legs than Eriksen who really can't maintain a good level for more than 45 mins now. Don't get me wrong there are plenty players I'd want before either of them, but that doesn't seem realistic right now. In terms of promising talents, unfortunately most talented players can't make the step up from academy to PL. It would be nice if Kobie Mainoo could, but we certainly can't go into the season assuming he will.
 
If we can’t get a Osimhen or a Kane
I’d be much more open to a young prospect like Hojlund or Ferguson than someone like Brobbey.

Is Sesko still an option? Would we look at Mane? Would he look at us?!! I think we have options if we are quick.

No chance in a million years that Mane would sign for us after playing for scousers much as it would rile them right up. I don't know the situation regarding Sesko but would definitely be open to a Hojlund/Ferguson if we can't get our top two.
 
We need some midfielder though and it doesn't look like our budget is going to stretch enough. Rabiot and Tielemans are both upgrades on McTominay and Fred, and they have more legs than Eriksen who really can't maintain a good level for more than 45 mins now. Don't get me wrong there are plenty players I'd want before either of them, but that doesn't seem realistic right now. In terms of promising talents, unfortunately most talented players can't make the step up from academy to PL. It would be nice if Kobie Mainoo could, but we certainly can't go into the season assuming he will.

What's Tielemans passing quality like,in other words could he rotate with Eriksen and provide that tempo controlling CM for now with Rabiot partnering Casa in the big games
 
I don't like that list of alternatives. Even Kolo Muani, who I do like as a player, wouldn't be particularly likely to score the goals we'd need imo. Vlahovic and Abraham have had really poor seasons. Never been convinced by Brobbey when I've watched him.

Still think Hojlund/Sesko are on there too
 
What's Tielemans passing quality like
Really good, it's what he's best at really. The question marks around him are moreso to do with his workrate and pressing, though I personally think his positioning is good enough to get around that in a good team that has more of the ball. He'd do a lot of the good things Eriksen does for us but without the 2nd half drop off and he'd be less of a burden defensively. Tielemans for 60 mins and Eriksen for the final 30 mins would work well imo. Rabiot is a different type of midfielder but his energy would also be very useful.
 


Source (Tier 3): Correio da Manhã
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Tier 2:

  • Striker is the #1 priority
    • Money's been set aside for a club-record signing
  • A younger midfielder is the 2nd priority
    • Sales will be required to fund a major purchase here
    • More attainable options in the shortlist alongside names such as Frenkie de Jong and Jude Bellingham

Fully agreed with our top two priority areas.

Think other positions (RB, CB and GK) will be dependent on sales. I think Maguire will definitely be sold, so expect another CB to come in and maybe we will sell one of AWB or Dalot but it's not as pressing an issue.

I'd love a GK too but reports of DDG getting a new contract and Henderson's injury probably make that less likely at the moment.

Suppose the interesting business will be what we can do on the cheap to plug other gaps.
 
Really good, it's what he's best at really. The question marks around him are moreso to do with his workrate and pressing, though I personally think his positioning is good enough to get around that in a good team that has more of the ball. He'd do a lot of the good things Eriksen does for us but without the 2nd half drop off and he'd be less of a burden defensively. Tielemans for 60 mins and Eriksen for the final 30 mins would work well imo. Rabiot is a different type of midfielder but his energy would also be very useful.

Yeah I feel like in a game against say Burnley at home a midfield of Casa, Tielemans & Bruno could work well.

However if we are playing the scousers away then we go with more of a solid two of Casa & Rabiot with Bruno up ahead.
 
Fully agreed with our top two priority areas.

Think other positions (RB, CB and GK) will be dependent on sales. I think Maguire will definitely be sold, so expect another CB to come in and maybe we will sell one of AWB or Dalot but it's not as pressing an issue.

I'd love a GK too but reports of DDG getting a new contract and Henderson's injury probably make that less likely at the moment.

Suppose the interesting business will be what we can do on the cheap to plug other gaps.

Wonder who else is on the midfield shortlist
 
Still think Hojlund/Sesko are on there too
I haven't gotten to see much of Hojlund tbh. I keep meaning to. His goal record doesn't look that great tbh and any time I watch highlights of Atalanta, Lookman appears levels above the other attackers. That being said I've seen him mentioned a lot so he must be doing some impressive things. Was he just not getting mins earlier in the season?

Don't think Sesko is ready and he's already moving to Leipzig anyway. Best to just give him a season there to see how he does. Not going to score the goals we need at this stage imo. We'll need a new striker next season to replace Martial anyway so these 2 might be ideal to look at for that season.
 
At least for once we are all aligned on what positions are #1 (CF) and #2 (Playmaking CM in Eriksen's spot) priorities.

I really hope Murtough and execute and not end up overpaying at the death. But knowing us it will be a big name signing saga that will run until the end of the summer and even in the best case, they won't have had enough pre-season time with us and will be November before they're fully integrated in the squad.
 
At least for once we are all aligned on what positions are #1 (CF) and #2 (Playmaking CM in Eriksen's spot) priorities.

I really hope Murtough and execute and not end up overpaying at the death. But knowing us it will be a big name signing saga that will run until the end of the summer and even in the best case, they won't have had enough pre-season time with us and will be November before they're fully integrated in the squad.

Yeah totally agree on those positions,however coming up with names for playmaking CM is proving tricky. I get the impression until McTominay/Donny leave ideally both we won't get any concrete links by the usual tier 1's.
 
Wonder who else is on the midfield shortlist
I imagine Rabiot is on there, perhaps with a caveat that we can sign someone else. There's talk of Rice but I'd guess he wouldn't be high on the list given price and the profile we are looking for.
 
I imagine Rabiot is on there, perhaps with a caveat that we can sign someone else. There's talk of Rice but I'd guess he wouldn't be high on the list given price and the profile we are looking for.

Yeah him and a different profile of technical midfielder would be ideal for this summer
 
Based on what I've seen so far, I think our window is probably going to look something like this:

In:
Harry Kane (£70-100m)
Kim Min-jae (£45-50m)
Jeremie Frimpong (£40-45m)
Adrien Rabiot (free)
Youri Tielemans (free)
backup gk (because it wouldn't be Man Utd without signing a random backup gk that never plays) (free/loan)

Approx Total: £155-195m on total incomings

Out:
Henderson (£15-20m)
Heaton (free)
Butland (free)
Jones (free)
Tuanzebe (free)
Bailly (£5m)
Maguire (£15-20m)
Lindelof (£15-25m)
Telles (£5m)
Williams (£5m)
McTominay (£25-35m)
Fred (£10m)
Sabitzer (free)
Weghorst (free)
Greenwood (free)
Elanga (loan)
Pellistri (loan)

Approx Total: £95-125m from sales (though I think the likes of Telles, Bailly and Williams would actually get less than £5m).

EDIT: I added some likely transfer fee ranges which gives a rough idea of how much we would need to actually sell to get just these players with the reported £100m budget in mind. In a case where we spend the max range for incomings but take in the lowest realistic price for outgoings we'd actually be spending £100m without factoring in wages. If we sell well, we could maybe get one more player but hard to see how we could realistically get another big signing like a Rice or a Caicedo. Maybe we could get some less well known player cheap using our scout network like Andre from Fluminense for example.

so offload McTominay and Fred, and replace him with a worse player ? Tielemans isn't good enough - forget about him
 
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