Absolutely. Has to be minimum £40m each for them. These are both internationals who start regularly for their international teams.
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Lost me there when Brobbey is added to a list that describes as world class. It tells us more about the journalist than the club or plans for the summer.
The manager/club might want him for reasons specific to them but it then begs the question, how does it move from world class targets only to that.
Speculating displayed at its worst form.
Who would ye target? We don't have the money to spend on midfield unless talk about the £100m budget isn't true (which based on some FFP calculations I saw on here a few months ago, I expect is accurate). We've seen very consistent and strong links to all of Kane, Frimpong, Kim and Rabiot so they all seem likely. Who else are we going to be able to target while staying within the transfer budget? (I don't agree with your opinions on Tielemans' level btw)
He doesn't have the energy and tenacity of Fred so we would lose some of that fight, but he also wouldn't have the "bad Fred" days of entire matches going by where he can't control a simple pass or complete simple passes to teammates.
Considering the budget limitations and the desperate need for high-dollar players in other positions, it would make sense to go for Tielemans. And I think he would be better with Casemiro as his midfield partner instead of Boubakary Soumare or Wilfred Ndidi. Basically I would hope that a change in environment, and a big step up in terms of stature of the club and quality of the manager could lead to improved performances from him.
*Edit to add that I personally would take the gamble of promoting Hannibal Mejbri to that position as I think he is a huge talent that could thrive in that role with Casemiro there to provide some leadership. But I know the chances of that happening are close to zero so a quality, cheap option surely is on the cards.
Anything over 25M would be fleecing them and that 40M valuation is jokes.
Aslong as they pay it!!Broberry is there because we need 2 strikers
Thats not how you negotiate. Hes an important part of the current squad has UCL experience and has won trophies including Europa League. If they want him they should pay up, because we will want to replace him
I hear you. I’m just saying he is not world class for a supposed world class list.
You mean in the list of players where it said others were being considered due to costs…
Non-factual? The rationale I gave was fairly straightforward. If West Ham overpays for a 30-year-old, 4th-choice center back on the decline, that's on them and definitely not the norm.
Within reason I agree. But you have to take things player for player. If Harry Kane has 12 months left on his contract he costs more than the normal 30 year old with 12 months left on their contract. That’s all I was getting at.
Not buying into the budget proposal of a hundred for this summer, so...
...let's start with a killer move: I'd first go for a Frenkie trick play and then move in with a sudden bang for a steal of Gavi. Silly? Well... make it known to the player and see where it takes you, and signal what level you are after. After all, they are less than a club, and kick them when they're down. Registration problems? Have DeGea in return? At least try, you never know. You are never satisfied and seek true competition? Top DeGea dollars and in EPL? And who beat you, Gavi, who? Activate those psychlogical levers!
From there, it's either pretty much sorted, or it was all a Gavi trick play and you come back to Frenkie. But negotiate hard, no top dollar for them lots.
Last on my list of close-to-guaranteed successes/ well worth the investment is McAllister. Proven, available, and Scotts are lovely!
Either of these three should greatly improve midfield and budgetwise allow for a bargain/ promise buy for cheap, leaving some for a new striker (that's not Kane though).
A level below (perhaps), since his breakthrough really only came this season, is Le Fée, a very solid player with strengths in every department apart from arials, and rather inexpensive, a great squad filler with potential for more.
A bargain can be made at FSP-threatened Leipzig, with Olmo and/or Szoboszlai.
Last, and maybe not least, I'll also add Maddison, who may or may not find sixth gear and shine, but be a solid sub at the very least.
Say it's not Gavi and Szoboszlai, but McAllister and Maddison - you regret it's not Rabiot and Tielemans?
The Athletic talked about this on their podcast today.
They said that we have a credit line of £300m but have spent £200m of it, hence the £100m budget. However, assurances have apparently been made that not will be paid off by June so we will be back at £300m.
The truth is in there somewhere
I am saying the narrative he is shaping there is his opinion and not an exclusive to why the club or manager might have certain player in sight.
Any half decent manager will target a striker because they have qualities that qualify them. Brobbey might possess such and makes him appealing. Whilst a world class striker might not fit into what the manager needs. So to pigeon hole the club into world class targets or riff raffs is a narrative that is being shaped by these so called trusted journalist.
I don’t like it because if the club signs Brobbey instead of Kane now, fans will never let him be. We’d all be sat waiting for our moment to pounce on his inadequacies and how he falls short of the right signing(Kane/Osimhen), without considering why the manager will want him over them.
I don’t like Brobbey because he is not my type of striker. If we get to sign a guy like him, it won’t be because we lack the money to go for (insert name). That’s why that classing of players doesn’t sound true but mere opinions that have been allowed to make the rounds for too long.
We haven't given away anybody willingly but we were forced to because we overvalued so called assets rather than undervaluing them in past and got stuck with them till their contracts finished .
Which would happen again if Club continues with its stupidity like you want them to .
Yeah we should be getting at least £60 million for Maguire and McTominay combined, surely.
Bellingham and de Jong? He living under a rock or something?
Yes, they're all losers. Not fit to lick Tielemans and Rabiot's spit
Ok.
Vlahovic would be perfect in our system. Glad he’s had a bad season at Juve. Means he’d cost less
Kone for me. Solid defensively so won’t put all the protective duties on Casemiro and very good going forward whilst also being press resistant. He’s just like Camevinga but without the hype.
Where did it say £30m? I never doubt Maguire can be sold but not for £30m or more.
@Mainoldo is the type of guy that gets so excited early for something that is not even an actual thing. I remember he said Bruno won’t fit in ETH’s team before the season started and after we lost to brentford and Brighton, he tagged me in August to prove nothing of his point. Since then he’s been in silent mode because Bruno has been one of our best player in ETH’s system and the guy has been used week in week out by ten Hag.
Bit of a risk though. He only had 1 good season really. I'm wondering if he actually is an elite goalscorer with how this season's gone for him. Just not sure if we can afford to gamble on the striker position like we maybe could on some other positions. Whoever we get needs to be successful. What do you think he'd cost btw?
Not sure who you're trying to convince here. Fact is any club wanting McTominay will have other options in mind, we'll be more desperate to sell than they are to buy. We can spout some bullshit as you suggest but they'll just move on. He's only an option because he's in the discount bin.
@Mainoldo is the type of guy that gets so excited early for something that is not even an actual thing. I remember he said Bruno won’t fit in ETH’s team before the season started and after we lost to brentford and Brighton, he tagged me in August to prove nothing of his point. Since then he’s been in silent mode because Bruno has been one of our best player in ETH’s system and the guy has been used week in week out by ten Hag.
I told you he would be shifted out to the wing and guess what!! Exactly what happened..
Hes been an option for the last 2 windows when we told them he wasn’t for sale. Keep making shit up though
Guess what. What exactly happened this season is he played 40 games as no 10. Played 7 games as RW. He even played the same amount in double pivot (7) as he played RW.
Did you think he was shifted 40 games as winger? You didn’t know he was used the same amount in double pivot as when he played RW, did you?
And guess what? You have Bruno as your top 3 player of the year. 40 games as no 10.
2 good season at Fiorentina. Things just don’t seem to click at Juve. Still got 12 this year I think which is better than all of our strikers excluding Rashford. He’d be available for 60mil I’d think. Given the shit show this takeover is turning out to be we won’t have 100mil+ for a striker and we also need a centre back and a midfielder. Vlahovic is a good all rounder and if he’s given the chances and support he’ll bag like prime Ruud I reckon.
You're right he did it over 2 seasons with Fiorentina (well 1 and a half at Fiorentina and half at Juve). For some reason I merged those 2 seasons together in my mind. That encourages me a bit more. £60m is still quite a lot though. I'd take him over nothing but would still be firmly 3rd choice for me behind Kane and Osimhen.
if we end up with Tammy Abraham I’ll actually shit blood
He’s our only number 10 though.. So he was only going to play there the majority of the time as who do you bench him for? However he’s found use for him on the wings where I said he’ll be less destructive. I have to admit though he’s had a very good season and definitely top 3. I wouldn’t replace him next year either.. but the conversation will come soon.
He's in your top 3 player of the year playing as No 10 means in your view he has been performing very well as No 10 in ten Hag system. You just can't admit it you were wrong, hence why you didn't tag me since August.
Tielemans has been a disaster all season - and I just don't see what he offers that should make anyone believe he is what is gonna take us closer to City. He is not defensively great, he doesn't score a lot of goals (4-5 on average) - so he certainly wont improve us. McAllister and Caicedo would improve us - especially Caicedo as he offers that mobilty and power we lack. The ability to drive forward past players with the ball. I mean even a limited player like Mario Lemina occationally has that quality which he showed a few times against us - none of our midfielders can do that. So if the money is there - I would go for him, Kim from Napoli and one quality striker. Osimhen is the dream but he is too expensive, but someone like Jonatan David might be affordable and would improve us. But if there is money around - I would prefer Kane or Osimhen
Another 1 who got away
I was wrong about Bruno. He can play 10 for ETH
.Let’s hope he improves with a proper striker though. Otherwise it will be back to the drawing board as for now people are letting him off with his poor goal return.
This might be due to no striker of the level of Martial and above to play with all season though.
I get this feeling that it will be a very underwhelming transfer window for us.
It took you three replies to admit it so I'm glad this doesn't go to 10 replies.I was wrong about Bruno. He can play 10 for ETH
Let’s hope he improves with a proper striker though. Otherwise it will be back to the drawing board as for now people are letting him off with his poor goal return.
This might be due to no striker of the level of Martial and above to play with all season though.
"Showed super interest" is a nice euphemism for massively overpaid.
Abraham plus Kane or Osimhen though?
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