Because some of those players you mentioned are either shit or sicknotes.
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What? Do you think the prices are unrealistic? We've been strongly linked with all the incomings (maybe not Tielemans as much but I'm pretty sure there were some reports a few months ago). I don't see what's so ridiculous about it. Not like I'm saying we should buy Declan Rice and Mbappe.
We are not selling all of Lindelof , Maguire , Fred and McTominay it’s complete make believe.
Why are you listing Tielemans? He’s not been linked for ages and he’s been shite this year. Such an overrated player
Yeah exactly why we could do with one
He was linked a few months ago and I think he seems like a ETH player. I remember an interaction between the two when we played Leicester also which made me think ETH appreciates him. I don't personally agree with you about Tielemans' quality. I've always liked him even if his levels dropped off in the last couple years. Ultimately he's been stuck at a club he wanted to leave 2 years ago, most players' levels drop when this happens. He's still been better than most Leicester players when I've watched them this season (a low bar but nonetheless). I think he'd bring the ball progression Eriksen offers with more solidity defensively. We'd also have Rabiot who's a bit different who could come in if his performance levels were to drop.
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Rabiot is twice the player Tielemans is
Same goes for their mothers.
They're different types of players. Rabiot is a better presser for sure. I'd personally take Tielemans for actually progressing the ball and creating chances. Rabiot had a decent season at Juve but he also had a lot of poor performances for them before this season. Some of that is down to him being used in so many different midfield roles during that time, but he's not an elite midfielder. I think some might be being influenced by his good performances at the World Cup. I'd personally always take Tielemans of 2 years ago ahead of Rabiot. Tielemans is still only 26, so there's not any real reason to think he couldn't get back to that level in a team that's actually functioning well, which Leicester certainly haven't been this season. Getting both on frees seems like a logical decision. I didn't suggest Tielemans as an alternative, if you actually look at my post I included both.
You have some very good points. Tielemans is however not the player he was 2 years ago and it is a huge risk to take him in based on performance 2 years ago. Also, Rabiot could be inconsistent and maybe not the star we are all looking for but on free I don’t see many better backups to create competition on the midfield… if he performs as he has done this year he could start, if not he would provide a better competition as DM and CM than Fred and McTominay… if the wage is right it would be a no brainer not signing him
While I agree on a main point - Rabiot not elite - and admitting I didn't watch any Leicester games in full, I still wonder how low you aim.
There's a number of ifs in both cases, and even when met, they're Fred/McT replacements at best, aren't they? And one of them will make noise, that's almost a given.
You want to add a dickhead for being a dickhead, and a could-get-back because he's exactly that? I'd rather not; point being if incoming players aren't proven top tier guys, but fillers, you might as well go with promising talents that are Reds already. I'd rather spend big on few guys, one at a time, spend the salary money more acutely, and broadcast the message that you don't wear this jersey if you're tier b. Leicester is a place for such mediocrity.
Edit: @golden_blunder wait until I post a limerick for you!
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Get both and sell one of Fred/McTominay
Pay up or you can’t gave them! No more selling cheap!
Knew they wouldn't pay that because aren't scousers or City who can get that level of money
Harry, Scott + 30 M for Rice?
Thought April fools day had gone
Whether or not they're comparable, after what Newcastle paid for Gordon, PL clubs won't do business at cut-prices with them.
Our high wages don’t help but you’d think utd players would be reassuringly expensive. Instead we lose them all for free because of the past boards incompetence.
That seems to way overvalue Declan.
No idea what Newcastle would do with McTominay. And 40M isn´t going to happen anyway. 20M more likely.
Because they actually followed the advice you gave in your earlier post and stuck to stupid valuations rather than being reasonable .
Just because United get fleeced in the market doesn't mean they can do the same with other clubs .
There’s reasonable and theirs being taken for a ride or giving players away. We are guilty of the later.
40 m for Scott fecking Mctominay or 30 m for Lingard in last year of his contract is far from reasonable .
No wonder we find it hard to move players and end up letting them run out their contracts .
transfermarkt values Maguire and Mctominay at 25 million EURO each ..
The Geordies wanted 50m for Longstaff. I’d say Scott is a better player than him, they can’t have it all their own way.
Doesn't matter nobody payed that for him there is hardly a market for Mctominay , we should be thanking our stars that Newcastle are atleast interested rather than acting high and mighty because Newcastle didnt play ball in our earlier dealings .
Why do you think that? I believe there will be a couple clubs interested
Of course there will if he’s made available. He’s a full international, and is kind of versatile in that he can play anywhere in midfield, in either a defensive or offensive capacity. He will shine for a team outside the traditional top 6.
For 40 m clearly not , he is hardly a youngster has never proven that he is anything beyond average and to make matters worse he isn't even English so there is that .
Revenge for the Longstaff quote. What did they want 50m?
Exactly. 40m to Newcastle or sell for less elsewhere. Transfers are about relationships between clubs as well. If Newcastle hadn't been dicks then do them a deal but they were so scrw them back.
True. Plus we are technically rivals now and why would do a rival a favour?
So you would be ok to sell Mctominay for 20 m to some other club rather than 25 m to Newcastle , I hope Club is more professional than being petty .
Undervaluing assets and giving them away isn’t being professional.
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