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You don't spend 40m or thereabouts on depth when you're broke. Next?
This whole no money this jan is rubbish and just glazers penny pinching of not wanting to part way with money with their hopes of selling before summer.
There is no reason why we can't get a good forward in this January and just spend less next summer and make do with just one signing in the summer along with maybe 1 or 2 shrewd free agent signings. If we are looking to sign a striker in the summer just bring it forward 6 months which makes more sense financially as it could be the difference to getting ucl tv and sponsor money along with being in a stronger position in persuading any other players to join and re-sign this summer because if we fail to get ucl football again will some of our players with just 1 year left on contract start looking else where
There is no reason why we can't get a good forward in this January and just spend less next summer and make do with just one signing in the summer along with maybe 1 or 2 shrewd free agent signings. If we are looking to sign a striker in the summer just bring it forward 6 months which makes more sense financially as it could be the difference to getting ucl tv and sponsor money along with being in a stronger position in persuading any other players to join and re-sign this summer because if we fail to get ucl football again will some of our players with just 1 year left on contract start looking else where
It's quite standard practice if you're selling a business, not to put more debt on to the books before as sale is completed, I'm not sure you can call it penny pinching. What's more likely is clubs who are willing to sell, will insist on a lot of the fee upfront - which we can't do with low cash reserves.
This "Glazers are penny pinching" rhetoric is getting old. We spent a record-breaking €227m net in the summer, following on a substantial outlay in 2021, we had the highest wage bill in the league last season, and we are struggling to offload players. We don't have infinite money, and the amount of money spent has never been the problem.
Easiest job in the world, football 'journalism'. ETH isn't going to come out and confirm nor deny it, their sources will never get named and it just becomes one of those things that is now fact, whilst based on absolutely feck all.Click bait
To be fair, after reading the article, it seems that ten Hag is understanding of the club's current situation, so he's not going to have too much of a problem with missing out on Gakpo. ESPN's headline is much ado about nothing (as usual with them).
Blame ESPN for their sensationalism. They love to do that no matter the region.
He's not the first one to mention Morata. I believe one of Whitwell/Ornstein also mentioned that United are keeping tabs on Alvaro Morata for a potential loan move. That's all, though; United aren't interested enough to purchase him outright.
Source (Tier 3): Correio da Manhã
Of course, Jorge Mendes is involved in this, so don't be surprised if Enzo does get transferred in January. Mendes is gathering up the proposals from various clubs, and by the looks of things, United and Chelsea will have the best offers with both teams willing to propose an offer above the €120m release clause amount.
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Source (Tier 3): Correio da Manhã
Of course, Jorge Mendes is involved in this, so don't be surprised if Enzo does get transferred in January. Mendes is gathering up the proposals from various clubs, and by the looks of things, United and Chelsea will have the best offers with both teams willing to propose an offer above the €120m release clause amount.
And why would any club do that ?
Absolutely no chance whatsoever that United are going to drop €120M on Enzo Fernandez, particularly not in January.
We can't afford Gakpo and somehow will bid 120m for Fernandez
The release clause needs to be paid in full immediately; no club can structure the payments over time. If they go in with a higher offer, then they can structure the deal such that they don't pay too much money up front at the start. That's what Chelsea did to acquire Nkunku.And why would any club do that ?
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Makes sense.
And why would any club do that ?
Chelsea has to offer 120m to be paid now to get him in January.
Only way for us to get him is to offer 120m in January, for a deal to be executed in the summer, and of course, we would have to pay the purchase price in the summer.
Simply, if you are Benfica, do you rather take 120m on 10 January and lose Enzo for good or do you agree to sell him in January but to not get paid 120m before July 1 if it means you get to keep him for the rest of the year? We already know that we were willing to pay for Gakpo if we could defer the payment.
Is EF worth 120m? That can certainly be discussed…
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It's frustrating that our hands are tied when we have so many 'assets' still on the books. If we could have sell or arrange deals for any of the below then we could afford to strengthen the areas we need to. Obviously, some of those are out on loan but even so none of them would really be missed.
Dean Henderson
Brandon Williams
Axel Tuanzebe
Eric Bailly
Phil Jones
Alex Telles
Antony Elanga
Donny Van de Beek
We could still keep a squad of the following and maybe use the funds brought in to bring a striker.
De Gea
Heaton
Dubravka
AWB
Dalot
Varane
Maguire
Lindelof
Martinez
Shaw
Malacia
Casemiro
McTominay
Fred
Eriksen
Antony
Pellistri
Bruno (Eriksen)
Rashford
Sancho
Garnacho
Martial (Rashford)
Dean Henderson
Brandon Williams
Axel Tuanzebe
Eric Bailly
Phil Jones
Alex Telles
Antony Elanga
Donny Van de Beek
We could still keep a squad of the following and maybe use the funds brought in to bring a striker.
De Gea
Heaton
Dubravka
AWB
Dalot
Varane
Maguire
Lindelof
Martinez
Shaw
Malacia
Casemiro
McTominay
Fred
Eriksen
Antony
Pellistri
Bruno (Eriksen)
Rashford
Sancho
Garnacho
Martial (Rashford)
You're ignoring that we lost a double-digit number of first-team players last summer. We weren't gonna be able to get rid of so many players and adequately recruit replacements.
That's why some players stayed and got given a chance.
Forgive me if I don't take Glazers' word on us being broken, but even if we were broken - we overpaid 40 mil just on Antony and Malacia purchases just this Summer, only because club had no plan and waited until the very end. So at the very least CEO and Football Director had to be fired for that. They were not.
Also, if we don't buy Ronaldo replacement we have no chance making top 4, that means 50mil in UCL payments and reduced payments from sponsors.
This club is run into the ground either by incompetence or by negligence or both
If for some unfortunately inexplicable reason , both Martial and Rashford sustain long term injuries, thats’s another season gone without CL qualification. We really need a dependable front man with a buy-out clause and not an Ighalo type of stop-gap.
Chances are any funds spent by the Glazers won't be increasing the sale price of the club. And I doubt the new owners want them to make signing while they're on the way out.
But you can sell and replace them? It’s not as if Ten Hag uses the squad, he plays the same players week in, week out and runs them into the ground as if we have already sold them anyway
Malacia was bought early and wasnt overpaid. Antony was overpaid but that's cause Ajax wouldn't budge till late in the transfer window.
I don't quite think this is the problem - if you look at these players, they are almost entirely on fairly low wages by our standard. My guess would be that these guys make £500-600.000 a week combined. Multiply that by 52 and you are at £25-30 million a year. Ronaldo, Cavani and Pogba alone combined were probably on more than twice as much.
Our hands are tied because we spent £200 million + in the summer - and in retrospect, dishing out £80 million on Antony certainly hasn't been a good investment yet.
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I still maintain there wasn’t a better available option for us to have bought.
We just don't have any cash at the moment. So to buy we'd need to take out a loan - which we have a facility to do which is hopefully not impacted by recent interest rate rises - but would still increase debt that a new owner would have to take on.
Let's face it, the Glazers could care less about us finishing 4th or 14th this season. They want out before Q1 ends.
We spent well (lots) in the summer, we have a good coach, I think that's all we're going to manage this season.
Let's face it, the Glazers could care less about us finishing 4th or 14th this season. They want out before Q1 ends.
We spent well (lots) in the summer, we have a good coach, I think that's all we're going to manage this season.
Our revolvers have a variable interest rate, so they are impacted by the increased by increase going up quiets a lot. Saw that LIBOR was close to 5% now…
Glazers looking for 6/7 Billion for this club, and the penny pinchers won't allow us bring in a couple of players in January. Fecking disgraceful.
It's not even the summer spend that's the issue. We could basically swap a washed-up Ronaldo for Joao Felix for the rest of the season, with zero additional net cost - and we're not being allowed to even do that. The absolute rats.
Important to remember that the Glazers didn't take out their winter dividends so that's how you know they're skint. I think they'll be desperate to sell and we'll end up going for £4b in the end.
We’re down to our last £24m and people would complain if they take on more debt.
How many people need to tell you this…These squad players are on comparatively huge wages. Who are buying the likes of Maguire, Williams, Telles, Bailly, Jones, Tuanzebe. They’ve all either been injured or shit for years.
This isn’t football manager where you can just sell Telles for 15 million and buy Malacia. No top clubs want him, and the Europa clubs can’t afford to pay 15 million and match his wages, hence the loan.
Also, who has ETH refused to use as a squad player, thus running a first team player into the ground?
Damn, good research! Shows what kind of geniuses we had. I wonder what big Ed is doing with his retirement.Our revolvers have a variable interest rate, so they are impacted by the increased by increase going up quiets a lot. Saw that LIBOR was close to 5% now…
What is the source of this "we just don't have any cash" narrative? You looked into United books? You saw our financials? Please stop spreading the bullshit, unless you are paid by Glazers to do so. Don't do their work for free
Not enough transfer tweets.
I thought it was fairly well publicised that we have no money? We have circa £20m cash in the bank down from over £300m. The last set of financials published before Christmas were pretty worrying.
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