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The people who think De Gea will keep up the Liverpool level of performance (misplacing every single pass without any particular cock-ups) are fooling themselves.

We need a proper goalkeeper, should’ve already signed Maignan from Lille last summer. And now we should probably get Navas as a short term option, instead of signing more Tom Heatons for the bench.
 
Welbeckham said:
The people who think De Gea will keep up the Liverpool level of performance (misplacing every single pass without any particular cock-ups) are fooling themselves.

We need a proper goalkeeper, should’ve already signed Maignan from Lille last summer. And now we should probably get Navas as a short term option, instead of signing more Tom Heatons for the bench.
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We undoubtedly need a modern / passing keeper.
 
I don’t see why everyone is bothered with a loan for a keeper. Clearly this could have been handled far better previously, but the position we’re in now, no top keeper is going to come in to a team out of the Champions League and risk sitting behind De Gea before a World Cup.

De Gea will be off at the end of the season with Henderson and it gives us time to decide on who we go for.
 
The GK situation is a complete give your head a wobble. Loan a good GK who is much more suited to the managers philosophy out, realise that DDG isn't really up to the task scratch our heads when we realise we don't have a budget for a new GK scrape around in the bargain basement for GK that can challenge De gea all while saying we don't want to sign a first choice GK because we are expecting Henderson back from loan next season?

So we are left with a first choice who isn't at alll suited to our manager and shouldn't be first choice, a second choice who should be third choice, the one who should be first choice on loan at another PL club and possibly a bargain basement no2 who won't ever actually be good enough to challenge the first choice who is nowhere near good enough anyway.

But its OK because the GK we decided wasn't good enough so we loaned him out is coming back next season after speaking pretty ill of the club and upsetting some of the fanbase.

Thats some genius forward planning that.
 
P-Nut said:
He just can't catch a break can he, its like the football world just collectively moved on from him in 1 year.
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Imagine how much better it would have looked if he had chosen to help pass the baton to the younger kids instead, or moved home to Lisbon on charity wages and gave them his last decent years.
 
mazhar13 said:
That's the state of the European market, even with the big clubs. No team will ever be willing to spend big on a player that has relatively bigger wages with their current club. Even a team like Juventus, with all of their Agnelli money, is unwilling to pay much to bring in players like Paredes and Milik (who they only started pursuing because Memphis's wages were too high for them). Notice how much both Arsenal and Chelsea are also struggling to offload their unwanted players (see Pépé and Batshuayi).
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Fair enough. It's just a sign of how badly run we are. Hopefully moving forward we won't be running into these messes.
 
Welbeckham said:
The people who think De Gea will keep up the Liverpool level of performance (misplacing every single pass without any particular cock-ups) are fooling themselves.

We need a proper goalkeeper, should’ve already signed Maignan from Lille last summer. And now we should probably get Navas as a short term option, instead of signing more Tom Heatons for the bench.
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We are loaning Dubravka. Not signing him. I’m sure a keeper will come next season.
 
imo dodged another bullet here considering the leaked wages we were willing to give him. We can still go after a proper GK next winter.
 
justsomebloke said:
I ask again - is he really so good that he warrants a Pogba-level transfer fee? More than we paid for Sancho?
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Neither Pogba nor Sancho delivered (so far in Sancho's case.) There's also an increasing list of players at that price range or higher who have come with big hype and have flopped immensely. That suggests two things:
1. Those players were not worth those price tags in the first place.
2. As the list keeps growing, those price tags are now the going rate for players of that level or close to it who look like they have big potential.

If we refuse to do the actual scouting and take the risk and sign (and play regularly) players with potential while they're still young and undiscovered, we will continue to pay these prices when it turns out some of them are pretty good.

We need the player as we don't have his profile in the team. If that is the cost to get him in, then it needs to be done.
 
I don’t care what we pay for Antony. He’s proving he wants to really play for us and that’s what’s good to see.
Would be good to see Antony, a centre mid and a backup keeper come in.
 
Dannn411 said:
Neither Pogba nor Sancho delivered (so far in Sancho's case.) There's also an increasing list of players at that price range or higher who have come with big hype and have flopped immensely. That suggests two things:
1. Those players were not worth those price tags in the first place.
2. As the list keeps growing, those price tags are now the going rate for players of that level or close to it who look like they have big potential.

If we refuse to do the actual scouting and take the risk and sign (and play regularly) players with potential while they're still young and undiscovered, we will continue to pay these prices when it turns out some of them are pretty good.

We need the player as we don't have his profile in the team. If that is the cost to get him in, then it needs to be done.
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OK, I see your point. Obviously the question is does he bring something commensurate with that price tag? The fact that Pogba and Sancho (so far) didn't is neither here nor there. The point is more that there are other, cheaper options available. Which seems to be a better fit if you expect Rashford and Sancho to be the main starters on the flanks, so that a really premier wide forward is not really what we should be looking for? If you're going to stretch so far beyond your own valuation as United seems to be doing here, then he must really bring something unique that we need so urgently that we can't do without it. And I just struggle to see that. Although the explanation absolutely could be my own lack of knowledge.
 
Dannn411 said:
Neither Pogba nor Sancho delivered (so far in Sancho's case.) There's also an increasing list of players at that price range or higher who have come with big hype and have flopped immensely. That suggests two things:
1. Those players were not worth those price tags in the first place.
2. As the list keeps growing, those price tags are now the going rate for players of that level or close to it who look like they have big potential.

If we refuse to do the actual scouting and take the risk and sign (and play regularly) players with potential while they're still young and undiscovered, we will continue to pay these prices when it turns out some of them are pretty good.

We need the player as we don't have his profile in the team. If that is the cost to get him in, then it needs to be done.
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What we really, really need is a better way for our youth to develop. Barca B etc. are able to play in actual genuine leagues, while clubs in smaller leagues can afford to give youth a chance. English clubs are generally less willing to take the risk of putting in youth and in my opinion it's the bigger problem we experience. I'm glad we're allegedly not going for Gakpo because Garnacho looks like he can do the business for us on the left, for example. Iqbal and Garnacho are the two exciting talents I hope to see more of this year, but it's hard to say if they'll get opportunities often. Fingers crossed they're at least reserved starting rights in the Carling Cup, but with us facing Villa, I wonder...
 
I will never understand the timeline of deals. This guy was clearly the attacker we wanted regardless of whether Ronaldo left. It’s the same “blink first” tactics that saw us sit watching Maguire for a whole summer and paying €80million anyway. I understand why Martinez took longer…we wanted Timber…but there does not seem to be a good reason to wait here….

I don’t care about the price tag but it is a fact that had we been more decisive and looked to do the deal at the start of the summer or even at the same time as Martinez we would be in a better and more stable position both financially (as per Dutch reports Ajax were more willing to negotiate on a lower price earlier in the window) and with regard to our options on the pitch for the start of the season.

the price tag doesn’t bother me as much as the ineptitude.
 
justsomebloke said:
OK, I see your point. Obviously the question is does he bring something commensurate with that price tag? The fact that Pogba and Sancho (so far) didn't is neither here nor there. The point is more that there are other, cheaper options available. Which seems to be a better fit if you expect Rashford and Sancho to be the main starters on the flanks, so that a really premier wide forward is not really what we should be looking for? If you're going to stretch so far beyond your own valuation as United seems to be doing here, then he must really bring something unique that we need so urgently that we can't do without it. And I just struggle to see that. Although the explanation absolutely could be my own lack of knowledge.
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My understanding is that Rashford and Sancho won't be assured starters every game. There will be heavy rotation to allow for players to keep up with the high energy-per-game demand that the new play style requires. I'd anticipate that Antony will be our primary starter on the right, with Sancho on the left, and Rashford will rotate with the two of them. Whenever he comes in, he'll be on the left regardless of who he is partnered with. Garnacho, Elanga etc. will play as backup to them.
 
Dubravka on loan is OK. He is better than Heaton.

From the 1st of September we should be scouting for a new gk though.
 
captaincantona said:
I will never understand the timeline of deals. This guy was clearly the attacker we wanted regardless of whether Ronaldo left. It’s the same “blink first” tactics that saw us sit watching Maguire for a whole summer and paying €80million anyway. I understand why Martinez took longer…we wanted Timber…but there does not seem to be a good reason to wait here….

I don’t care about the price tag but it is a fact that had we been more decisive and looked to do the deal at the start of the summer or even at the same time as Martinez we would be in a better and more stable position both financially (as per Dutch reports Ajax were more willing to negotiate on a lower price earlier in the window) and with regard to our options on the pitch for the start of the season.

the price tag doesn’t bother me as much as the ineptitude.
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He was injured until a few weeks back. I believe I've read it was always planned to be a late window move. Unsure why, but that's what I read last month.
 
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