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If I was United, I too would release to friendly journos that we are no longer going for De Jong......so Barca panic realising they can't get Silva.
 
Can someone far more clever than me - explain something please.

1 - If we massively decrease the wage bill by offloading high paid players (Ronaldo, Linguard, Bailey, Matic, Pogba, De Gea (nxt season), Telles, Mata, AWB, Williams, Tuanzebe = 1,810 per week).
Then we splash out high fees but keep wages lower than previous regimes - are we better off?

All the players in line 1 would save the club something like 90mil per year in wages. I know new players have to come and be paid - but is there an economic arguement for paying these stupid fees but then offering reasonable salaries.
Maguire is also on 275k per week and Sancho rumoured 300k, Rashford and Martial £250k each. Are the days of insane weekly wages coming to an end?
Having lower salaries makes it easier to move them on when the time so I'd say it's better to go that way. In our position we might need to pay high transfer fees to complete the squad. Once you're at that position desperation decreases and you can negotiate or look at different options to ensure transfer fees aren't as high and there's more clamour to come to compete / win trophies

If that makes sense
 
Having lower salaries makes it easier to move them on when the time so I'd say it's better to go that way. In our position we might need to pay high transfer fees to complete the squad. Once you're at that position desperation decreases and you can negotiate or look at different options to ensure transfer fees aren't as high and there's more clamour to come to compete / win trophies

If that makes sense

I think its always going to be hard to reverse now our ceiling weekly wage as FDJ for sure can ask to match Casemiro as he’s not really wanting a move. He’s younger as well so might even want a lot more he has nothing to lose. 350k a week seems to be the norm now for the best players and that is just an insane position for the club which isn’t doing great on the field and doesn’t have owners with pockets any deeper than ourselves in reality…as in they don’t give the club anything. We have massive pressure to sustain our income streams basically and right now….on the football side…we could be heading for very dangerous times financially. We have a cash bank balance of 50m according to Neville. I assume this summers spending spree (say if we get in another 3 players as often suggested) is being funded on the back of the minority sale of ownership? If so that’s a very Leeds like move under Ridsdale is it not.
 
There was no way we was going to sign FDJ and Casemiro in the same window.
If he wanted to come then surely we could have gotten him - we are about to spend almost €100m on Antony, so the money would have been there.
Casemiro, De Jong AND Antony, perhaps not.
 
There was no way we was going to sign FDJ and Casemiro in the same window.

Depends what the strategy is. If we genuinely believe that FdJ will be the difference between CL and no CL then the money is worth it. He would have paid for himself with that alone, ignoring the increased attractiveness of United having CL football again.

We will still have to spend a lot next summer regardless to replace the likes of DDG, new RB, striker and a new winger but I would be surprised if our business is done for the summer.

I would much rather get FdJ than another winger or striker. The middle of the pitch is where we struggle the most. If we can control more games and play much higher up the pitch then we have the quality up there to score plenty of goals. The issue last season was that we weren't creating much. City and Liverpool have played without an out and out striker for years just fine. As long as you are creating chances and you have good forwards then you will score plenty.
 
Totally agree with the 2 posts above. We should be signing FDJ also. It feels like we’ve won one game and there is backtracking about signing 4-5 players. I’d personally prefer us to sign Antony and FDJ and forget Gakpo if we can’t afford all 3.
Trapp would be a good choice for a keeper if we can’t get Sommer. Really not sure on the right back. I thought we would go after Aarons at the start of the window.
 
So why did we spend all summer focused on him and him only? Is the only obstruction that stands in our way the €17m Barca owes him?


Yeah pretty much. (That and FDJs apparent reluctance to join). If it wasnt for the wages issue he would have been with us in the second week of August.

I guess we spent so much time on it because we expected Barca and FDJ to come to an agreement long before now and werent expecting it to be the fiasco it turned in to.
 

If Antony is on strike that puts us in a better bargaining position surely? Why up our bid? Stay at 80. Its ridiculous already. Ajax can force an unhappy player to stay if they want to which would be stupid or take the ridiculous 80 mill
 
I noticed this too, he was very effective in that role. Shouldn't be too surprised by that I guess as he's a very dynamic player and often would fall deeper into that role when he was at Spurs
Eriksen is actually one of the least dynamic player in our squad, in the same basket as Maguire and Ronaldo. Also I do not think he is effective in that deep midfield role. Whatever he was at Spurs was a loong time ago.
 
If Antony is on strike that puts us in a better bargaining position surely? Why up our bid? Stay at 80. Its ridiculous already. Ajax can force an unhappy player to stay if they want to which would be stupid or take the ridiculous 80 mill
I think that is what we are doing. If we were willing to up the bid, we would've done it already.
 
If Antony is on strike that puts us in a better bargaining position surely? Why up our bid? Stay at 80. Its ridiculous already. Ajax can force an unhappy player to stay if they want to which would be stupid or take the ridiculous 80 mill

I would imagine this is all being held up by Ajax trying to get Ziyech in anyway. This close to the end of the window I'm sure Ajax want their replacement in place before agreeing the sale.
 
Surely the plan is Casemiro and Eriksen. Casemiro just comes in for McTominay. We saw in the first half the other night that Eriksen can do the passing role we need from the middle of the park.
Still need a ball carrier in the midfield
 
Theres nothing within the law to have a friendly chat over dinner with his agent
Ajax could also have given us permission, no need for them to accept a bid to do so.
Interesting.

IMO Antony deal is done. Ajax will be trying to drag it and make it look like they've done all in their power to keep Antony, and skinned us from money at the same time, but this will get done.

Expect Antony deal on the last day of transfer window.
 
I really don't think we should go a lot higher for Antony. As a player he is someone I'd be excited to have at the club but the fee we offered is already ridiculous considering the risk associated and he has already made it clear he wants to leave.

I could see us maybe offering 85 million euros and changing the structure of payments to offer more upfront. If the fee also includes a lot of performance related payments I think it's a good deal for all involved.

If Ajax are really pushing for 100 million euros I'd prefer one more huge push for FDJ and Gakpo
 
If Antony is on strike that puts us in a better bargaining position surely? Why up our bid? Stay at 80. Its ridiculous already. Ajax can force an unhappy player to stay if they want to which would be stupid or take the ridiculous 80 mill

Probably because we don't want to ruin our relationship with the club. Ajax has one of the best youths in European football.

Having a good relationship with Ajax is worth more than a couple of million quid imo.
 
Probably because we don't want to ruin our relationship with the club. Ajax has one of the best youths in European football.

Having a good relationship with Ajax is worth more than a couple of million quid imo.
I couldn't agree with this anymore
 
Having lower salaries makes it easier to move them on when the time so I'd say it's better to go that way. In our position we might need to pay high transfer fees to complete the squad. Once you're at that position desperation decreases and you can negotiate or look at different options to ensure transfer fees aren't as high and there's more clamour to come to compete / win trophies

If that makes sense
Or, why not front load the wages. Higher at beginning of contract and decreased for latter years making it easier when we want to move on
 
How is it possible to have personal terms agreed without the bid being accepted. Are we allowed to speak to him at this point?

As someone else wrote - we may be so close in the negotiation with Ajax that they have allowed us - and even if not....

It's the kind of thing that everyone knows is happening - even if it's not allowed.

But if Ajax feel that they eventually will accept Uniteds bid - they probably want as much as time as possible to find a replacement - so it's in their interest that the agreement with the player is done asap.
 
This is getting serious now. Antony's agents have now set themselves up in London in order to work out and resolve the transfer. It looks like they'll be working on United's behalf to convince Ajax to leave. Tier 3:


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This is getting serious now. Antony's agents have not set themselves up in London in order to work out and resolve the transfer. It looks like they'll be working on United's behalf to convince Ajax to leave.


Hopefully helps force this through. That’s what we need here, quality players that our desperate to play for the club and not just here to pick up a wage.
 
Replace Elanga with Antony in that game on Monday and we tonk them. Hopefully it gets sorted.
 
Elanga played well though. Got an assist too.
He did, but he has been terrible in front of goal for us really. The game was so open in the first half, having some more quality in the attack would have gotten us a few more goals, in my opinion.
 
This is getting serious now. Antony's agents have now set themselves up in London in order to work out and resolve the transfer. It looks like they'll be working on United's behalf to convince Ajax to leave. Tier 3:


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Ducker/Telegraph are tier 3?
 
Ducker/Telegraph are tier 3?
This isn't coming from Ducker. This is coming from Mike McGrath, who tends to be more speculative in general than most Telegraph journalists (with the exception of Jason Burt), though in that sense, he's been better than Jason Burt has this season. I might bump McGrath up to Tier 2 depending on what happens, but for now, I'm keeping him at Tier 3.
 
Luckhurst is now reporting that United will bid for Antony again (Tier 2):


That's all, really. The article itself contains no new info.
 
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