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He won't be a fantastic signing for anyone. There is nothing special about him at all. His application will always let him down, and he'll never have that.
But application is also linked to motivation. And I think playing for the (champions) league title for City under a top tier coach like Pep could potentially unlock a level of motivation that people haven't seen in a while from Pogba.
He’s too old now and it’s difficult to see how he’d work in a midfield with De Bruyne. Ability wise they are equal but there’s no question who the superior player is and who works harder. Then you also have Bernardo and Gundogan.
I def do not want to see Pogba at City. All the people saying he won't work etc, have you guys seen him play for France? He's been a massive disappointment for us no doubt and a lot if not most of it is his own fault due to having a weak mentality but under Pep he could potentially absolutely smash it. Hope he goes to PSG.
I read that Bernardo wants to leave, so I assume he'd be his replacement. He's just turned 29, so he should have like 3 good years left in him at least. People may not like it, but I can understand why he didn't really give a damn playing for top four at United, I think he could potentially be an entirely different player when competing for trophies under a coach he admires.
I was gutted when we let Tevez go to City. I won't be arsed if Pogba goes there. Shows what a disappointment he's been.
They would be stupid not to.
The Pogba link while probably legitimate sounds weak. No discussions just he's on a list of their midfield targets.
I didn't think he could possibly do more to alienate United fans, but this would be it. Can't see him fit into a Pep team though.
Hadn’t they all been signed before his arrest? It was one day prior to deadline day.
More on Rangnick's recent quotes:
On trying to bring in a new striker:
On why he didn't push for a new striker:
On trying to bring in a new striker:
On why he didn't push for a new striker:
Yeah the failure to act after the Greenwood situation signalled to me that the club had given up on this season. We just didn’t have enough firepower to compete. It’s frustrating as 1 new player in attack probably would’ve seen us finish in the top 4 but we’ve been extremely tentative in the transfer market for years so it’s not surprising.
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They way his quotes suggest not but even if that was the case, I highly doubt we'd be able to hijack those moves at such short notice. Transfers to top clubs at that too, hardly jumping in and grabbing a Southampton signing.
I feel like he mentioned those names as examples of players who moved on in January. The point may have been to show that we could have obtained someone who'd have been good enough for us this season had we actually tried to look for more options.
So the board allowed the scouts to take the fall for their unwillingness to spend in January. It's just spin spin spin all the time with them. There were available players who could have helped us secure top 4 ffs.
Really not arsed about the prospect of Pogba joining City at this point. It would prove the rumours about him being a cnut true though.
And even if we did sign one of those players, I very much doubt it would've made much of a difference. It seems the morale in the squad fell to a all time low, and Rangnick didn't help himself by bringing in a coach (Armas) who seemed out of his depth at the required level.
Even if we’d overpaid, CL qualification makes up for it and more importantly, would’ve made Ten Hags job easier as more likely to get players in Summer with CL place.
Even an expensive 6 month loan with an option (that we could say “thanks, no”) to would’ve been a good punt.
Without CL, more likely to miss out on best options or have to overpay wages, some thing that’s already an issue.
Possibly cost us/Ten Hag a season or more in turning things around. Had to be worth a go.
Without hindsight, it would have been pointless to be fair though at that time (working on it through January). Especially the calibre/cost of those Ralf named... Why look for more options when our forward line was Ronaldo, Cavani, Greenwood, Rashford, Sancho?
Definitely should have at least tried for a loan signing though as soon as the Greenwood news broke.
Let's not forget about United loaning Martial out. That also played a part, so Cavani remaining fit was critical for us. Of course, that didn't happen, and that's where we we really got in trouble. I think that's where Rangnick regrets not pushing this matter further, but that's him speaking in hindsight, anyways.
Cue all the backtracking and hypocrisy from City fans from the last 6 years now that Pogba is touted as on his way there. I hope he ends up being another Grealish if he does go there.
Difference being Woodward and Judge were still in situ til January. Now it’s Arnold and Murtough. Let’s judge them separately on their own record, not prejudge based on what’s gone before.
Then you don't really understand coaching. If it was just about personal application Michael Jordan wouldn't have needed Phil Jackson and the triangle offense (which reduced his scoring numbers), or the Lakers with Kobe and Shaq. Denis Rodman was basically unmanageable save his time with the Pistons and under Phil in Chicago. The great coaches can convince players that personal sacrifice is what is required for the journey to be successful.
Pogba knows deep down that he hasn't improved in the way he would have liked over the last 6 years, and coaching/utilization has a big part in that. Paul's probably just one of those super talented players who needs to be in a complimentary system that allows him to play his best. And that's a legitimate criticism. In that way, yes, he is a luxury player but properly deployed he can be devastatingly decisive. All players can be criticized but United's issue has been an epic systems failure.
United hit an iceberg a long time ago. The greatest captain isn't going to be able to do much of anything. Why couldn't Varane significantly improve the defense? It just doesn't work that way.
Isnt it funny how weirdos like Sam Lee always report that theyd "heard X Y and Z about Player A" after the story hits the press elsewhere.
Never seem to report this stuff before anyone else... strange, eh
Pep won't put up with his injuries and then him going off to Dubai to recover. Pep won't put up with him not doing the hard yards and being suspect defensively. They had no interest when he was generally fit and healthy, the last few years he's a bit of a crock as per below he's been unavailable a lot.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/paul-pogba/verletzungen/spieler/122153
Summary:
- £2.5B will be used to purchase the club.
- £1.75B will be invested into the club, including (but not limited to):
- Stamford Bridge
- Academy
- Women's team
- Kingsmeadow (Chelsea Women's & U23's stadium)
- Chelsea Foundation
What's this investment they speak of?
Pogba doesn't have the discipline to play for Pep. Will play brilliant here and there but struggle most weeks
Pay 30m euros and bring him in.
Is this the bit where rumours start of Pogba going to City and then we resign him, just to stop him from going there?
Would pogba even be a regular for city? I really don't see him as a better option than what they have, at best he would be fernandinho replacement but that would mean city would be hugely defensively frail with him as the defensive midfielder.
also haaland and pogba at the same club... that is two very big egos to manage which goes against what city have built their success on in terms of player recruitment.
also haaland and pogba at the same club... that is two very big egos to manage which goes against what city have built their success on in terms of player recruitment.
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