Bookies are still making Mina favourite to join Everton, by quite a margin.
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And you know this because....?
Inaki Williams is another player I think would do well on the right wing for us. Recently signed a huge new contract with Bilbao but they usually allow their players to leave for the right price. Certainly a better option than fecking Rebic.
Didn't someone few weeks ago on here not a ITK,said he knew someone doing a job on someone's house that had sources at the club that we were to extend Fellani's contract before he signed it and we will sign someone from Barcelona. Just linking this to the Yerry Mina Gossip?
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They don't really. Release clauses need to be triggered with Athletic to get their important players.
You could use that argument to defend literally any signing the club makes.
Willian's played in this country for five years , posters should have seen enough of him to make their own judgment of whether they think he's a good player or not. If you do, then fine, make the case. Let's just not hide behind some nonsense notion that Mourinho is infallible or that Willian has to be a good player because he's Brazilian to avoid actually discussing whether he'd be a good signing or not.
So do I, the fun has been sucked out of it because of the ITK/social media era. All the same terminology, preparing a bid, monitoring the situation, activating the release clause... just nonsense. Italy is even worse, their journos blatantly use template quotes, they're always worded the same.
The right price for Athletic is the release clause. Iñaki has an €80m release clause. That's the only way they let players leave unless they don't want them anymore.
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What if Levy is simply saying that if you won't sell us Martial, then I don't see why you expect me to sell you Toby?
Wouldn't that an entirely reasonable stance, rather than Levy being "too difficult to deal with"?
After all, it's known that Martial would be happy to come to Spurs. And I'd reckon that Toby would be happy to go to United, assuming you pay him the wages that Spurs won't.
Did the Spurs ITK tell you this?
I can't be bothered to get into all this again. If you think that Martial would not go to Spurs if offered the chance, then I can live with that.
Fair enough. Appreciate the correction. But maybe 80m for him would be better than 50 or so for Rebic either way? Better positional flexibility and potential.
I don't know all the info on Pulisic, I am only judging based off the fact he is rated very highly and people talk about his endless potential. My sample is a lot more limited to select few European and domestic games. I think the potential is there and I think playing in our team in the style we will be playing he would be decent.
I have a much bigger sample size from Willian and he has not been good enough, when we have had Conte/Jose etc managers that play in a lower block were defensive contributions and average output are more acceptable due to the balance of the team then its not too bad.
In the style we will be playing with Sarri I would rather have a younger more raw player who is willing to take on players and stretch the player so we don't have to consistently make it hard for Hazard.
In terms of grasping the not ready part I would rather take that risk on him as stated before.
There's a very big difference between thinking Martial would go to Spurs if offered the chance and it being 'known that Martial would be happy to go to Spurs'.
I too think Martial would go to Spurs (if he was offered first team football) for what it's worth.
@GlastonSpur does get a hard time on here sometimes to be honest!
@GlastonSpur does get a hard time on here sometimes to be honest!
Yeah Martial could do with the step down, in all fairness, to get him some more playing time.
True, but so what? Believe what you want - it makes no difference to me.
But regardless of all this, the main point stands: it's hardly Levy "being too difficult to deal with" if he wonders why he should sell Toby to United if United refuse to sell Martial to Spurs.
On the contrary, if United refuse on the grounds that they don't want to strengthen a rival, but still want Spurs to strengthen them with Toby, then I'd say it's United being too difficult to deal with.
I too think Martial would go to Spurs (if he was offered first team football) for what it's worth.
@GlastonSpur does get a hard time on here sometimes to be honest!
He's offered first team football at United. You mean starting XI status?
In who's place would he be offered that? Spurs currently have Son, Dele and Lamela for the positions around Kane. They couldn't guarantee him more football than he's getting at United. Like, he might get it depending on how he performs, but there'd be no guarantees from the start. Tottenham are not Stoke.
Spurs is about Martial's level - if he can prove himself at that level (Spurs, Tranmere, Dagenham & Redbridge, that bracket of quality) he might get the opportunity to step back up to a real club later in his career.
Willian in PL 166 caps 25 goals. Averages goal in every 6.64 games. And he is winger! We are after Caldara Juventus CB who has in last two seasons 54 caps for Atalanta with 10 goals! CB! What more can I say?
I will be really disappointed if Willian is still here next season.
I will be really disappointed if Willian is still here next season.
He'd get more 1st team football in a lesser team, like Sevillia for example.
With that attitude tho, dunno if he will get to play for another big team imo.
Nobody said he was infallible right? True or false Willian was a part of Mourinhos last title winning side?
I feel a lot of people are underrated Maguire. He genuinely had one of the best seasons a ball playing defender can have at this level. He would genuinely add a whole new dimension to our back line.
On Mina, he's good on the ball when you think about who he is, an effing giant of a man, but that doesn't necessarily translate to normal people levels. He'd probably be a decent Smalling replacement but thats not someone who's improving us. Considering this could be our last signing of the window in what is an absolutely pivotal time for United under Mourinho.
On Mina, he's good on the ball when you think about who he is, an effing giant of a man, but that doesn't necessarily translate to normal people levels. He'd probably be a decent Smalling replacement but thats not someone who's improving us. Considering this could be our last signing of the window in what is an absolutely pivotal time for United under Mourinho.
True, so was Gary Cahill. Do you want him too? Why would you when we have Chris Smalling who won SAF's and United's last two league titles. Since we are on about that season. Willian had 2 goals and 3 assists. I'm pretty sure we could get that kind of output playing Valencia up there. Won't even have to worry about his work rate.
If it comes down to Maguire or Mina, it’s Maguire all day.
If it comes down to Maguire for £75m or Mina for less than half that, I’d probably shoot myself.
If it comes down to Maguire for £75m or Mina for less than half that, I’d probably shoot myself.
Are you being serious?
It's Son at LW, Dele CAM and Eriksen RW.
I say feck it. It's time to go big or go home. Jose seems to have committed to the 3-5-2 idea even though he doesn't have the technical CB for it. I would say Maguire is worth about 50m in the present market. If we absolutely need to give Jose his ball playing defender and there's no one available let's just pay the 20m penalty for being late to the party and get him.
Yes, I mean starting 11.
Also, I have no idea who would drop out of the Spurs team for Martial, I'm just saying that if he was offered the chance to play week in week out for Spurs, I think he'd be up for it, that's all really.
I don't disagree with that point at all, in fact it's perfectly logical. I just don't think people should make outright statements about players, when in fact they have no idea.
I suggest you read some of his earlier posts before coming out with statements like that.I too think Martial would go to Spurs (if he was offered first team football) for what it's worth.
@GlastonSpur does get a hard time on here sometimes to be honest!
I wouldn't blame Levy if those were his terms. As you said, objectively, it's fair enough that he'd ask for our own unhappy player in return. Him being too difficult to get a favourable deal out of (from United's perspective) is what I really meant, not that I'd expect him to just help out a rival.
No but it doesnt matter who I want it matters who the manager thinks can do a job for us on the right wing and somebody who has won a title with him seems like a decent candidate. What a stupid comparison we have 5 CBs how many RWs do we have?
Wtf are you on about, answer the question.
Because one may be for sale while the other isnt
Martial may want to go but Jose might not want to sell him while Spurs could be happy to sell Toby if they get Martial in return.
See the difference in circumstances?
Just one player is on the way and it will be a Cb and not Willian or Rebic. Makes sense because Mourinho has already started prep on the 3-5-2 we seem to have decided to try. That's one system that does not require wide forwards.
What do you United not have in abundance? That's right. Wingers. Any wingers. On the left or the right.
Sanchez, Martial, Rashford - all right footed players who's game is built around cutting in and causing havoc.
Mata, Lingard are traditional central players.
All of them would be fit for a 2 man attack but none can play a system requiring forwards to provide the width.
I don't understand how signing one ageing winger will give us any more balance. What happens if he gets injured? Back to pseudo Target Manning Fellaini? Makes no sense.
Every half credible source all summer has linked us to a Cb. (Whereas only Tuttosport and other stupid sources have alleged a deal for Willian and Perisic) Mourinho mentioned how he wanted two but would get just one signing.
Judging by his recent tactical decision to eliminate the RW it probably means there isn't one coming. Playing 3 atb with Smalling Bailey Jones is basically suicide and inviting a deadly press. Someone like Maguire would be tailor-made for the system.
It's either him or another ball playing Cb. That'll be our window.
What do you United not have in abundance? That's right. Wingers. Any wingers. On the left or the right.
Sanchez, Martial, Rashford - all right footed players who's game is built around cutting in and causing havoc.
Mata, Lingard are traditional central players.
All of them would be fit for a 2 man attack but none can play a system requiring forwards to provide the width.
I don't understand how signing one ageing winger will give us any more balance. What happens if he gets injured? Back to pseudo Target Manning Fellaini? Makes no sense.
Every half credible source all summer has linked us to a Cb. (Whereas only Tuttosport and other stupid sources have alleged a deal for Willian and Perisic) Mourinho mentioned how he wanted two but would get just one signing.
Judging by his recent tactical decision to eliminate the RW it probably means there isn't one coming. Playing 3 atb with Smalling Bailey Jones is basically suicide and inviting a deadly press. Someone like Maguire would be tailor-made for the system.
It's either him or another ball playing Cb. That'll be our window.
But I don't think we were after Bale or Perisic this year though.
Willian is a strange one. It seems Barca were in for him and we were used as a negotiation tactic, I still don't think we were ever in for him
What I'm on about is using crap arguments about how Willian is Brazilian or that Mourinho likes him (based on the supposition we want to sign him which places far too much credit in media bollocks for my liking) as the only basis for whether we should sign him or not. To which you responded with by far the worst argument yet. Hell feck it, sign up John Terry and get Oscar back from China if 'playing in a Mourinho title winning team' is the only criteria for whether a player is a good signing for United in 2018.
And lets be clear about what Willian's contribution was to that title win, 2 goals and 3 assists in 36 games. Whatever the respective merits of stats bashing, if Willian was signed for £80m and produced numbers like that he'd be regarded as a gigantic flop.
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Some update.
Jonny Evans got injured today (Leicester). His injury seems to be serious. This might affect our Maguire deal. We are still having Alderweireld on our radar if Maguire doesn't materialize.
Martial also expected to stay. 1 depressing inside news was Raiola was speaking with Pogba about leaving United.. This, obviously is a very slim chance but a discussion did happen between them
Jonny Evans got injured today (Leicester). His injury seems to be serious. This might affect our Maguire deal. We are still having Alderweireld on our radar if Maguire doesn't materialize.
Martial also expected to stay. 1 depressing inside news was Raiola was speaking with Pogba about leaving United.. This, obviously is a very slim chance but a discussion did happen between them
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