Transfer Tweets - 2018/19 | Remember if posting foreign language tweets to post in English too

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Premier League clubs are strangely quiet considering they only have 3 weeks after the World Cup to get everything done.
 
£17-20M is reasonable for an international RB ffs.

So why didn’t we pay that for him ourselves? When his stock was even higher?

We bought him for £12m, he has not excelled here, and we feel we are entitled to a profit.
 
So why didn’t we pay that for him ourselves? When his stock was even higher?

We bought him for £12m, he has not excelled here, and we feel we are entitled to a profit.
Market rate. Players price was lower at that time. Nowadays 30mil is base price for potential players when 30mil back could afford you a proven good players
 
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Merino's side has been leaking that there is a release clause which is in the region of €12-15m. I'm surprised he's not going to Athletic. He's been linked with them since before he moved to Dortmund.
The article does not specify if it is a clause or agreement between the clubs. In any case it is an important loss for Athletic. Not many Basques available for that price
 
Merino's side has been leaking that there is a release clause which is in the region of €12-15m. I'm surprised he's not going to Athletic. He's been linked with them since before he moved to Dortmund.
They have signed Dani Garcia from Eibar, might not have room for him.
 
They have signed Dani Garcia from Eibar, might not have room for him.
Makes sense then - they got him for a free. Still, not often a 22 year old Basque becomes available for that price.

The article does not specify if it is a clause or agreement between the clubs. In any case it is an important loss for Athletic. Not many Basques available for that price
Yeah, from what DT said they've got someone in so makes a bit more sense as to why they've not gone all in for him.
 
Market rate. Players price was lower at that time. Nowadays 30mil is base price for potential good players when 30mil back could afford you a proven good players

He’s not moving as a good player, he’s moving as a surplus to requirements player who won’t play if he stays. He came with high stock after being pursued by United, Bayern and Barca.

It’s like us trying to demand £35-£40m for Luke Shaw this summer on the basis that ‘that is what other clubs are quoting for young English players’.
 
market prices....why should we always sell lower? feck that shit

I think market prices would dictate he was worth less. If he’s worth the same as the young promising full-back we just bought who had every top club after him, we probably wouldn’t be selling him.

Market forces are supply/demand. I think any deal involving Darmian will be heavily lopsided to the ‘supply’ side here. The demand isn’t what it was when Torino were selling him. Personally, I think Juve offered a fair price, and now it seems we’ve screwed ourselves out of breaking even due to being greedy.
 
I think of it as flies around shit.
Whatever, we're still the center of your universe! :lol:

Also, we just beat liverpool in a CL final in a way that has left them raging against the heavens and probably will for a long while yet. You should be worshipping us right now :D
 
I think market prices would dictate he was worth less. If he’s worth the same as the young promising full-back we just bought who had every top club after him, we probably wouldn’t be selling him.

Market forces are supply/demand. I think any deal involving Darmian will be heavily lopsided to the ‘supply’ side here. The demand isn’t what it was when Torino were selling him. Personally, I think Juve offered a fair price, and now it seems we’ve screwed ourselves out of breaking even due to being greedy.
You signed Darmian on a 5 year deal and he's played out 3. He's worth about £5m to you right now. You could make a profit selling for 6m
 
He’s not moving as a good player, he’s moving as a surplus to requirements player who won’t play if he stays. He came with high stock after being pursued by United, Bayern and Barca.

It’s like us trying to demand £35-£40m for Luke Shaw this summer on the basis that ‘that is what other clubs are quoting for young English players’.
Doesn't necessarily mean we should sell for loss. Being bullied in price set bad precedence for future sale. He's not on crazy wage that affect our spending. Sure it looks a bigger loss if he is to see out his contract here, but in the whole scheme of thing it's for the better for us to hold our ground than getting shafted. However bad he is, he is still Italia international player. Good enough as squad player and have no issue sitting on the bench can be valuable in its own way.

Luke Shaw is in his last year of contract, and on higher wage for his age/experience makes the situation different. There is no one fit all guideline for transfer.

I think market prices would dictate he was worth less. If he’s worth the same as the young promising full-back we just bought who had every top club after him, we probably wouldn’t be selling him.

Market forces are supply/demand. I think any deal involving Darmian will be heavily lopsided to the ‘supply’ side here. The demand isn’t what it was when Torino were selling him. Personally, I think Juve offered a fair price, and now it seems we’ve screwed ourselves out of breaking even due to being greedy.

Dalot had a release that can be triggered. Porto was forced to sell and us doing them a favor offering higher fee than his release clause. If Dalot were without a release clause, then it's upward 30mil for a player without senior international cap, played few games for first team. There you can see how the market price work.

Edit: When we signed Darmian, arguably we got him below his market price. We're not exactly greedy for profit now, but set up a standard value for our out going players which in the past we clearly sucked.
 
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Doesn't necessarily mean we should sell for loss. Being bullied in price set bad precedence for future sale. He's not on crazy wage that affect our spending. Sure it looks a bigger loss if he is to see out his contract here, but in the whole scheme of thing it's for the better for us to hold our ground than getting shafted. However bad he is, he is still Italia international player. Good enough as squad player and have no issue sitting on the bench can be valuable in its own way.

Luke Shaw is in his last year of contract, and on higher wage for his age/experience makes the situation different. There is no one fit all guideline for transfer.



Dalot had a release that can be triggered. Porto was forced to sell and us doing them a favor offering higher fee than his release clause. If Dalot were without a release clause, then it's upward 30mil for a player without senior international cap, played few games for first team. There you can see how the market price work.

Edit: When we signed Darmian, arguably we got him below his market price. We're not exactly greedy for profit now, but set up a standard value for our out going players which in the past we clearly sucked.

Juve were reportedly offering us what we paid for him back. There is no stand to take here, his value has not increased. Selling Darmian for 12m is not getting ‘bullied’.

Ultimately, markets set prices, and if the price we set is not one anybody on the market is willing to pay for Darmian, it’s likely we set it too high.
 
Juve were reportedly offering us what we paid for him back. There is no stand to take here, his value has not increased. Selling Darmian for 12m is not getting ‘bullied’.

Ultimately, markets set prices, and if the price we set is not one anybody on the market is willing to pay for Darmian, it’s likely we set it too high.
From the tweet I saw Juventus offered us slightly less. And as I said in previous post, arguably we got him for below market at the time. In this market, without special circumstances, your value can be increased along with market rate. Getting bullied here is accepting selling at first offer much lower than quoted price without considering the circumstances. Juventus beside needs a starter RB, they also need back up full back ideally can cover both flanks given they have been losing defenders and their old guards are aging. Not selling Darmian is not the end of the world. It's better than ending up in the future selling players at loss and severely way below market rate.

As outsider it's only opinion and speculation. We don't know whether there is no or plenty of interest for a player. For you to draw conclusion that we're setting too high a price, yet Juventus rumored offer is deemed as reasonable is all but personal opinion.
 

"With Manchester United supposed asking price incredibly high, the magazine reports that it is not out of the question that Martial decides to run his current contract down and then leave the club for nothing."


I guess they're assuming that Martial only has a year left on his contract.
 

"The former England and Manchester United captain has already agreed terms on a two-year deal worth around £12.5million.
Everton have waived a fee for the remaining 12 months of his £150,000-a-week deal to get him off their wage bill"
 
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