Proper bs about us being interested in Lewa, we all know Rom is Mourinhos main man and rightly so, feck Lewandowski Lukaku is better anyway.
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I know Kicker's supposed to be reliable but that sounds like bullshit, from using Benzema as makeweight to United and PSG being interested when they have other areas to worry about.
We need Arnie more than we need Lewa.
Not really buying any rumours until the WC is over/players get knocked out. All noise until then.
Yeah it seems more about making up stories to keep the rumors going and papers selling, rather than actually substance and sources. At least when it comes to United rumors.
3 Italian clubs linked to Darmian?
If Juve wants Darmian, give us Sandro.
If Inter wants Darmian, give us Skriniar.
If Lazio wants Darmian, give us Savic.
If Juve wants Darmian, give us Sandro.
If Inter wants Darmian, give us Skriniar.
If Lazio wants Darmian, give us Savic.
I... I simply don't get how an United fan can say "Don't sign Kovacic, sign that Lyon fella", I... I simply, don't. I mean, you can sign both, lol. When Real signed Kovacic, to be honest, I expected him to last half a season, I didn't rate him at all in terms of him developing further, I thought: "Huh, another wasted Inter wonderkid". But the guy has fought, has tried, he showed he had the level to play for Real, but it's impossible to get into a first 11 when Real has the best midfield in the world -Kroos, Modric, Casemiro- this decade. It would be impossible for anyone. But the guy never surrendered, and always showed the best whenever he played. Kudos to him, a lot of squad players along the years in Real Madrid just drift once they realize they are not going to be a consistent first option.
He said he wants to leave to play more minutes. And to be honest, I can easily picture Real Madrid getting rid of him to sign Thiago Alcantara. Florentino already wanted to sign Thiago paying his release clause when it was known he was going to leave Barça but he didn't want to start a war among both clubs, he was one of his wet dreams. He may have forgotten about him till now, but signing Lopetegui changed it all, as Julen still rates him highly and always picked him up for the national team whenever he wasn't injuried.
I can see Kovacic progressing under Mourinho and becoming an even better player.
He said he wants to leave to play more minutes. And to be honest, I can easily picture Real Madrid getting rid of him to sign Thiago Alcantara. Florentino already wanted to sign Thiago paying his release clause when it was known he was going to leave Barça but he didn't want to start a war among both clubs, he was one of his wet dreams. He may have forgotten about him till now, but signing Lopetegui changed it all, as Julen still rates him highly and always picked him up for the national team whenever he wasn't injuried.
I can see Kovacic progressing under Mourinho and becoming an even better player.
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Don't think we'll go for both seeing as we need to strengthen other positions as well. And even if Kovacic wants to leave, he would have to hand in a transfer request as his release clause is rumored to be €300 million. And bringing in Thiago doesn't mean that Perez would let Kovacic leave.
He would be a great signing, but where does that leave Fred? I don't think Mourinho signed him as a backup, but rather as a starter. I think a younger prospect who isn't promised a starting role is more likely, and as things are now we have McTominay and Pereira, and possibly even Fosu-Mensah (although I see him more as a defender than a midfielder obviously).
Well, I expect United to be ambitious having a philosophy of getting "18-20 world class players" in the team, as Real Madrid or Barça -and even City- are going for this decade. And I can see Kovacic having more time in United than in Real Madrid -even if it's through rotations, it would be more than he has had at Real-. Thinking about developing players like McTominay or Pereira is pretty poor to me if you want to be again an elite club and not just the first name in the Forbes list.
I don't think he will need to force his departure from Real, he's not an untouchable, and it's a good way to make some 60+ million euros to buy a player like Thiago. Remember James Rodriguez has left / is going to leave the team for peanuts, Real Madrid is not a jailhouse.
While I also want us to have more world class players, the fact is that our transfer budget the last seasons has seen us spending about €150 million (I'm not sure if it's € or £) and seeing that we've spent about half of that and are still in the market for a world class CB, a left back, a right winger and maybe a backup striker I'm not sure we would have the funds to spend more on our midfield this season. Depends on what Mourinho thinks he needs though, he might rate Kovacic.
United have a proud history of youngsters coming through the academy and making the first team, and while it's not been as good lately, we are redeveloping our youth squads and making more progress there than we have the last few years. I know the players I mentioned aren't world class, but seeing McTominay in a United shirt working his ass off the few minutes he gets and the progress he is making is why I think we should give players like that a chance.
As for Kovacic leaving, I'm not saying he's not gonna be allowed. Just that Perez doesn't really seem to like us as of late
Can we bring this guy in finally? Brake the bank and offer him whatever he wants. We can make a project for you Eden.
I know, but times are changing. For instance, Real Madrid and Barça right now don't have time to develop own academy players, the only way a wonderkid from their academies can make it into the first team is, as we say in Spain, "breaking the door", which means being so, so, so, so irrefutably good it's nuts to leave him aside. Barça has been some years without a single young player like that since Guardiola days -and not because he "made" those players, but because, as always, sometimes you get a row of damn good academy players and sometimes you don't-. The only young player absolutely breaking the door in Real Madrid lately has been Asensio, and he isn't even an academy product, they signed him from Mallorca after showing his immense potential. Lucas Vazquez had to leave the club, making a really good season at Espanyol which made him earn a spot in Real being an useful squad player a la Pedro in Barça. Carvajal had to leave the club too, showing his potential in the Bundesliga before coming back. Nacho had to fight with teeth and nails refusing to leave the club on loan just to be the secondary guy he is, and basically got all the garbage minutes the late years. What I say is, it's not worth it having a handful of young players anymore unless they completely break the door. Sure you can have McTominay and even one or two more young prospects in the team, but that can't stop trying to get as many proven elite players in your team as you can because "the kids need some time to develop themselves and signing an elite player would stop that development".
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He is after going to Spain when he just isn't good enough any more.
He's a cracking player just a drop in form I think.
Think you're the first United fan I've ever come across that doesn't care about our tradition with youth.
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Read my latest message, after that one. By the way, tradition with youth is not special nor exclusive to United. I still remember some people saying "don't sign this guy, we have Januzaj". In these days of elite clubs trying to have 20 elite proven players. Dear lord.
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I've just read it and I still disagree. Other clubs may be happy to have 20 elite first team players. It's not the way I want our club to go. Seeing young talents like Martial, Rashford, McTominay, Pereira etc develop with our club is one of the things I enjoy the most. Sure they won't all work out, and at times we could do better with an elite level player in their position. But the joy of those successes would be greatly diminished if there were hardly any players you'd seen grow with the club.
If you gave me the option of United going spending 2 billion tomorrow and bringing in the best players from around the world, whilst getting rid of the chances for 90% of our youth I'd turn it down in an instant.
I respect that. But that's too idealistic, too romantic to me. In the current elite football, I don't think challenging seriously every year for Champions League is compatible with the "let's not sign elite players that can cut the development of the youth, let's give more chances to them" way. But as I say, is fine, beautiful, romantic, and obviously respectable. But not realistic, imho. Even Athletic de Bilbao, the classic example in that romantic way of understanding football, with all the limitations they self-impose, try to get the best basque/navarre/SW french players they can even if they have a good prospect in their academy for that position.
Think it's wrong to use Real as an example of someone who buys experienced elite players. In the last ten years or so, they've had a purchasing strategy of aquiring the best young players. They invested heavily around 08/09, but it took five years before they became the best team in the world.
The oldest players they have brought in to the first team is Navas (28) and Alonso and Modric at 26. I think they are proof that no matter how much quality you have, your team needs time to settle if they want to compete for top honours.
In many ways, the Dalot signing is more "Real Madrid-like" than an Alderweireld or Boateng signign.
The oldest players they have brought in to the first team is Navas (28) and Alonso and Modric at 26. I think they are proof that no matter how much quality you have, your team needs time to settle if they want to compete for top honours.
In many ways, the Dalot signing is more "Real Madrid-like" than an Alderweireld or Boateng signign.
Juve want Godín,now that his clause is 20m€
What are we waiting for if such clause actually exists? 20m. for Godin it's no brainier.
Yeah, we are interested despite having lukaku on no9 position. What a load of rubbish. From lewa agent i guess
I don't understand that too. 20 mil?? Bargain
Some here are acting like Ed and Jose are super high and aren't aware of potential transfer target's transfer developments.
We are 'interested' because we are the only club left that can afford him, so the Man Utd name is being used for clicks.
We have to become the top dog in our own backyard first imho. The CL should be a bonus not the priority. That means we need a strong squad, out of which we select a team, not 11 elite individuals. Selecting a team to work cohesively might involve having 1 or 2 players who are seen by fans as not good enough but who keep the team ticking over.
Secondly united have always had youth players in or around the squad. It’s a tradition that we need to uphold not bin
But to beat City we have to become one of the great sides in Europe by default.
If we're not good enough for the CL then we won't be good enough to overhaul City.
I also don't think signing elite players automatically puts them in the individual category. We can sign quality players that fits into the first eleven, you just have to sign the correct player
I don’t agree, Liverpool got to the final after being 4th in the PL and in fact knocked City out big time enroute.
We don’t have to have 11 of the best players - we have to have a team and play smarter particularly against the smaller sides that City gobble up and we draw against
Besides I was replying to a noob who seemed to be saying to forget about youth and buy ‘elite’ players only
I propose starting a separate transfer thread for the couple of players that Juventus is are NOT interested in.
If Godin is really available, even at 32, he should be one of the top names we should be eyeing for our CB positions. Experience, calmness, leadership - will help the younger ones like Bailly and Lindelof to improve too.
But you get those runs every so often. Its Juve, Bayern, Madrid etc that consistently gets to the semis etc every year.
Teams that invest, teams that have world class squads.
I did misread the context of your post to be fair. I can't argue with that.
Godin, no thanks.
Put that money towards a young player, with potential, big potential.
With wages etc he would cost circa 75m for 3 years service, with no guarantee he would be up to much in year 3. We have one player we foolishly threw huge money at when it's clear he's on the downslope, we aren't a retirement home. As the game gets more and more "athletic" the peak for players, in my view, is lowering (25-27 as opposed to the old standard of 28-30)
For every Pirlo, there's 5 Falcao's. Even with AP he didn't change league etc so it's slightly "different".
Put that money towards a young player, with potential, big potential.
With wages etc he would cost circa 75m for 3 years service, with no guarantee he would be up to much in year 3. We have one player we foolishly threw huge money at when it's clear he's on the downslope, we aren't a retirement home. As the game gets more and more "athletic" the peak for players, in my view, is lowering (25-27 as opposed to the old standard of 28-30)
For every Pirlo, there's 5 Falcao's. Even with AP he didn't change league etc so it's slightly "different".
Madrid contact with Quintero
He has obvious talent but has been loaned all over the place by Porto. What's wrong with him.
They should start paying for their scouts to leave the TV room.
he's not very good.
Well he is obviously good. It’s his consistency that is the problem.
He's really not. Martial is inconsistent, Lingard is inconsistent. Quintero is not good. Was a poor replacement for James at Porto. Poor for Rennes and went back to Colombia after that.
River Plate will be buying him for €5m this summer. Real Madrid will not.
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