Transfer Tweets - 2017/18

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Since August 2008, when Sheikh Mansour bought Manchester City and started on that crazy spending binge, here's the total amount spent on player purchases by each of the big 6 premiership clubs to date:

Arsenal: ......................£444,515,000
Chelsea: ......................£924,559,000
Liverpool: ....................£657,450,000
Man City: ..................£1,261,300,000
Man United:................. £811,650,000
Tottenham: ..................£548,650,000

While Liverpool has not spent anywhere near the astronomical sums City has spent so far just on buying players, Liverpool supporters can hardly claim that their club hasn't really spent anything over the last few years ... they have certainly significantly outspent Arsenal and Tottenham (and the above figure does not include the £75,000,000 spent on VVD this window)!
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The poster is talking about net spend, and he/she is right. When your net spend is negative or close to zero, it means either you are buying or selling in bargain basement or you are basically trading an excellent player for another excellent player, or for a couple of good players. This seems to be what is happening at Liverpool. Argument can be made that when your net-spend is negative your overall quality as a team isn't improving much. What Klopp has done is he has gotten rid of some dross for good money and replaced them with some good players. Losing Coutinho is a blow, though. He was the one of the two legitimate world class players in their ranks. Now if they have to improve their team to the level from where they can challenge for the title, they'll have to spend money and get a couple of elite players, or players who are on the verge of being elite, in. Buying elite players are a pain on the books.
 
Since August 2008, when Sheikh Mansour bought Manchester City and started on that crazy spending binge, here's the total amount spent on player purchases by each of the big 6 premiership clubs to date:

Arsenal: ......................£444,515,000
Chelsea: ......................£924,559,000
Liverpool: ....................£657,450,000
Man City: ..................£1,261,300,000
Man United:................. £811,650,000
Tottenham: ..................£548,650,000

While Liverpool has not spent anywhere near the astronomical sums City has spent so far just on buying players, Liverpool supporters can hardly claim that their club hasn't really spent anything over the last few years ... they have certainly significantly outspent Arsenal and Tottenham (and the above figure does not include the £75,000,000 spent on VVD this window)!
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Also doesnt Include Keita figure either. So talking that 135 mil + they have spent 780 million, almost as much as united.
 
IMO net spend is a measure that can bring a perspective but the market changes every year. So, if you take into account the inflation factor, net spend could be reasonable but otherwise, it’s just a number. Total spend and gross spend gives another picture. I think the relative spending factor would be the best measure because it takes into account the market conditions in the particular windows. It really gives you a view into how much more relative spending one club is doing versus another.

The other thing to note also is that, you can’t take net spend seriously because you have to have quality and have had spent good money on good players before you can sell those quality players for good amounts of money to make a difference in net spend. So, unless you already have a deep squad of great players, net spend really wouldn’t look very good for any team unless you’re just buying crap quality players.
 
Sky doing a poll on who we should sign...Griezmann has been voted the player who our fans would most like to sign. It just shows how much football some people don’t watch outside the Prem. he is the most overrated player I’ve seen play. I’ve watched several Athleti games and he’s been nothing short of terrible for the most part. If we match Barca in fees for this transfer then somebody’s head needs to
Roll.
 
Since August 2008, when Sheikh Mansour bought Manchester City and started on that crazy spending binge, here's the total amount spent on player purchases by each of the big 6 premiership clubs to date:

Arsenal: ......................£444,515,000
Chelsea: ......................£924,559,000
Liverpool: ....................£657,450,000
Man City: ..................£1,261,300,000
Man United:................. £811,650,000
Tottenham: ..................£548,650,000

While Liverpool has not spent anywhere near the astronomical sums City has spent so far just on buying players, Liverpool supporters can hardly claim that their club hasn't really spent anything over the last few years ... they have certainly significantly outspent Arsenal and Tottenham (and the above figure does not include the £75,000,000 spent on VVD this window)!
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I wish that i can put this on front page on rawk. They are always about us spending, etc....
 
Not sure we'll be in for another CB. Our options there are by no means perfect, but we have so much work to do elsewhere that central defenders are going to be quite someway down the list of priorities.
Take your point. I think Maquire would be excellent in a 3 (which is where I see him for England along with Stones and one other, possibly Jones or Gomez), which United would use at certain times during a season, he looks like a Vidic type of player to me. I'm still not totally convinced with Rojo, too many rash challenges for me, Blind is a good player, but just lacks the physical side a little, and not great pace. Smalling is a good defender, but seems to panic in certain situations, I think he would be on his way if we did get another CB. I really like Tuanzebe, who could fit in at RB, CB or DM, TFM I'm still not sure about, he still seems to ball watch a little when watching Palaces games, but could develop, he has the physical attributes. I still think Mahrez would be absolutely brilliant for us, and would go for him, with or without Maquire.
 

Deulofeu has decided to leave this winter. There are contacts with Milan and Inter. Barça want to sell, he wants to go on loan

He's a decent player, just needs to stop going back to Barcelona at every given opportunity because it's causing his career more harm than anything, he'll never be good enough for them.
 
This guy is a joke. He got sold but wanted that buy back clause to get back to his beloved club. Now only wants to go on loan to get game time so he may be able to come back again.

Sorry I'm missing why that makes him a joke? He clearly wants to play for Barca and loves them, yes what an idiot.
 
Since August 2008, when Sheikh Mansour bought Manchester City and started on that crazy spending binge, here's the total amount spent on player purchases by each of the big 6 premiership clubs to date:

Arsenal: ......................£444,515,000
Chelsea: ......................£924,559,000
Liverpool: ....................£657,450,000
Man City: ..................£1,261,300,000
Man United:................. £811,650,000
Tottenham: ..................£548,650,000

While Liverpool has not spent anywhere near the astronomical sums City has spent so far just on buying players, Liverpool supporters can hardly claim that their club hasn't really spent anything over the last few years ... they have certainly significantly outspent Arsenal and Tottenham (and the above figure does not include the £75,000,000 spent on VVD this window)!
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You got a source for that mate?
 
IMO net spend is a measure that can bring a perspective but the market changes every year. So, if you take into account the inflation factor, net spend could be reasonable but otherwise, it’s just a number. Total spend and gross spend gives another picture. I think the relative spending factor would be the best measure because it takes into account the market conditions in the particular windows. It really gives you a view into how much more relative spending one club is doing versus another.

The other thing to note also is that, you can’t take net spend seriously because you have to have quality and have had spent good money on good players before you can sell those quality players for good amounts of money to make a difference in net spend. So, unless you already have a deep squad of great players, net spend really wouldn’t look very good for any team unless you’re just buying crap quality players.
or you buy lower and sell higher thus providing funds for gross spending. Net spending is the real money spent.
 
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fecking depressing, the prospect of moving forward as a club from this last horrid decade in particular is tantalizingly close, yet slipping backwards seems to loom over us constantly. I can easily see it happening.

It appears increasingly more difficult for teams like Liverpool and Spurs to make that jump from the level they're currently at to the sort of tier City, United, Chelsea find themselves in, teams who over the last 7/8 seasons have shown a consistent ability to win the PL, those are the only sorts of teams that have the ability to keep hold of their best players (United over recent seasons of course have slipped in that regard, but are somewhat protected by the stature and revenue of the club).

It's always a bit of a race against time really, isn't it? Build a quality squad and if you don't quite get over the line and win those sorts of trophies, bigger clubs are snapping up your best talent and you're going backwards. A bit like Southampton of seasons gone by, except instead of the likes of Liverpool hovering up their top players, it's Liverpool on the receiving end and clubs like Real, Barca and PSG sniffing around.

I think Liverpool fans can be happy at least that in Klopp, they've got a manager who appears to be able to spend big money pretty well all in all, as most of his larger purchases have been successes so far. There's a great deal of pressure on the club to get transfers right being that if you don't improve as a team as a whole in the wake of Coutinho leaving, you've technically taken a step backwards and deviated from that lineal progression you're looking for.

Spurs are in a similar boat as a I say. There's already bubbling issues with Alderweireld and his contract situation, Alli has got a new agent, Kane has talked about the need to win trophies recently.
 
Wait. 30 mil signing fee. Ffs. Rvp got 10 from us.

It's natural that when a player comes without a transfer fee, some of the money that the club would have had to spend goes back in his pocket. RVP cost £20-odd million, Sanchez costs nothing (in that scenario).
 


Translation: #Lucas has agreed to go to #ManchesterUnited Gazzetta . () remains to be seen the price that will ask the #PSG to let him go. 20-25 m € this should be good!
 
Are we still in "preparing for bid" mode because we still don't know who to sign and where to reinforce?
 
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Translation: #Lucas has agreed to go to #ManchesterUnited Gazzetta . () remains to be seen the price that will ask the #PSG to let him go. 20-25 m € this should be good!
If the extent of our ambition is to sign the likes of Lucas Moura, City will go on to dominate us for many years to come. We had a good run I guess.
 
If the extent of our ambition is to sign the likes of Lucas Moura, City will go on to dominate us for many years to come. We had a good run I guess.

Moura has a good player. People keep saying this. Is it that you have watched him at PSG and thought he has been poor? He’s been a key player for the past couple of seasons, and has a good output.
 


Translation: #Lucas has agreed to go to #ManchesterUnited Gazzetta . () remains to be seen the price that will ask the #PSG to let him go. 20-25 m € this should be good!


Why would an Italian paper have the exclusive on a Brazilian moving between a french and English club?
 
Moura has a good player. People keep saying this. Is it that you have watched him at PSG and thought he has been poor? He’s been a key player for the past couple of seasons, and has a good output.
No, it's just that I've seen PSG fans want rid of him looking at r/PSG for example. If they want him gone then that means he isn't good enough for them.
 


Translation: #Lucas has agreed to go to #ManchesterUnited Gazzetta . () remains to be seen the price that will ask the #PSG to let him go. 20-25 m € this should be good!


Gazzetta is a poor outlet.
 
Why would an Italian paper have the exclusive on a Brazilian moving between a french and English club?

this is such a flawed way of discrediting news. not that i particularly think this will happen or that its true, but still
 
No, it's just that I've seen PSG fans want rid of him looking at r/PSG for example. If they want him gone then that means he isn't good enough for them.

He isn’t. Unfortunately he isn’t better than Neymar and Mbappé.
 


Translation: #Lucas has agreed to go to #ManchesterUnited Gazzetta . () remains to be seen the price that will ask the #PSG to let him go. 20-25 m € this should be good!


If the price is true, then it won't be a bad transfer. If we are truly interested, a loan with option to buy would be ideal.
 
Lucas would be such a random signing. He has qualities and still think there's some untapped potential but my god prepare to be frustrated.

It's the sort of signing you make for the sake of making one.
 
If the extent of our ambition is to sign the likes of Lucas Moura, City will go on to dominate us for many years to come. We had a good run I guess.
We aren't going to sihgn a better winger in January, we need depth and more importantly, doesn't stop us pursing the likes of Dybala and other muppet dreams.
 
It makes sense on paper - a right sided, fast player, who will hug the touchline and give us a little more versatility in our attacks as every winger we have is either a striker or an attacking midfielder.

Whether he’s actually good enough on the pitch is an entirely different question.
 
Moura has a good player. People keep saying this. Is it that you have watched him at PSG and thought he has been poor? He’s been a key player for the past couple of seasons, and has a good output.

I'd say it's the opposite. If you watch a highlight reel you'd be amazed. If you see him over 90 mins - And I have a few times - You'll often be wondering how he's even made it to this level.

Talented but even at 25 still raw. So loose with his play. He's different stylistically to Depay but will cause a lot of the same headaches IMO.
 
Don't give money to PSG. We might witness an exodus in 6 months time...
 
No, it's just that I've seen PSG fans want rid of him looking at r/PSG for example. If they want him gone then that means he isn't good enough for them.
Real Madrid fans want to get rid of Ronaldo and boo him for ages... does it mean he is not good enough?
 
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