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It's daft really. De Gea will do what he wants and Mendes will accommodate it. De Gea isn't going to do what Mendes says just because it helps Falcao.
 
That's bullshit, wtf has the 1 got to do with the other?

Andy Mitten's recent piece mentioned how 'goodwill from one player could carry to another with the same agent' - he's generally good and definitely has his sources with the club. That + the insistence on giving Falcao a chance feels somewhat ominous to me.

Remember, Perez said last year that 'if I'd bought Falcao I might aswel make Jorge Mendes president of the club aswel' - so it shouldn't come as shock to people that he might be using his position with some clients to further his other clients positions.
 
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It's daft really. De Gea will do what he wants and Mendes will accommodate it. De Gea isn't going to do what Mendes says just because it helps Falcao.

Of course but keep in mind that Mendes might very well be advising DDG and thus using all his bargaining chips to get us to play ball with Falcao. Win-win for him as such.
 
Of course but keep in mind that Mendes might very well be advising DDG and thus using all his bargaining chips to get us to play ball with Falcao. Win-win for him as such.

De Gea is a fully grown functioning adult. Mendes works for him. I think people seem to forget this. Whatever decision De Gea makes will have had little influence from what Mendes has said to him.
 
Here's the actual translated article on the Pogba situation according to Di Marzio



Real Madrid joins PSG, Chelsea and Barca in race for Pogba: the situation
 
De Gea is a fully grown functioning adult. Mendes works for him. I think people seem to forget this. Whatever decision De Gea makes will have had little influence from what Mendes has said to him.

In terms of his ultimate move then yeah, I agree. But there's no reason to believe that Mendes couldn't convince De Gea to 'sit tight' and wait things out rather than sign a deal at first opportunity. If De Gea has confidence that he'll get whatever he wants in the end as a result, he's possibly happy to leave Mendes to do it at his own leisure.
 
De Gea is a fully grown functioning adult. Mendes works for him. I think people seem to forget this. Whatever decision De Gea makes will have had little influence from what Mendes has said to him.

I'm not disputing that mate. You can't ignore that Mendes would have some influence over DDG though? It's not like Mendes will say 'Hey, don't sign unless I get Falcao'. That's just daft. No, what he'd rather do is get DDG to stall as long as possible (for other reasons not Falcao) and then use that as a bargaining chip with United. Basically telling United listen I can speed up the DDG situation if you give me an answer on Falcao.
 
In terms of his ultimate move then yeah, I agree. But there's no reason to believe that Mendes couldn't convince De Gea to 'sit tight' and wait things out rather than sign a deal at first opportunity. If De Gea has confidence that he'll get whatever he wants in the end as a result, he's possibly happy to leave Mendes to do it at his own leisure.

Which is completely by the by. De Gea isn't going to sign a contract to stay here if he wants to go to Madrid, it's that simple.
 
To not get into a back and forth in the Twitter thread, I'd just say that I don't think it's as far fetched as you seem to think.
 
I think they have the same agent. Mendes.

That shouldn't make any difference, or does this confirm how bent football is from top to bottom and everywhere in between?

De Gea is a fully grown functioning adult. Mendes works for him. I think people seem to forget this. Whatever decision De Gea makes will have had little influence from what Mendes has said to him.

Exactly. It's ridiculous to suggest that De Gea's agent would suggest that he only stays if Falcao stays. If so, the man's a crook...
 
Which is completely by the by. De Gea isn't going to sign a contract to stay here if he wants to go to Madrid, it's that simple.

It depends on the time frame. He might be concerned that Casillas might not be as easy to push out as we all think, Madrid might not be fully committed to him yet, he might want another year or two in Manchester for all we know. Just because he wants Madrid as his ultimate destination he might not necessarily want to go now.

A contract with a clause for Madrid doesn't sound unlikely to me. Similar to the Suarez situation when he signed a new contract last season.
 
I'm not disputing that mate. You can't ignore that Mendes would have some influence over DDG though? It's not like Mendes will say 'Hey, don't sign unless I get Falcao'. That's just daft. No, what he'd rather do is get DDG to stall as long as possible (for other reasons not Falcao) and then use that as a bargaining chip with United. Basically telling United listen I can speed up the DDG situation if you give me an answer on Falcao.

I just don't see it, it's media speculation.

Imagine you had a solicitor working on a contract for you with your current work place and you found out that they are using you as leverage while negotiating a co-workers contract at the same time. It's beyond unprofessional, it's obscene and you'd rightly be absolutely furious. That's exactly the scenario people are suggesting and it's ridiculous in my opinion.
 
I just don't see it, it's media speculation.

Imagine you had a solicitor working on a contract for you with your current work place and you found out that they are using you as leverage while negotiating a co-workers contract at the same time. It's beyond unprofessional, it's obscene and you'd rightly be absolutely furious. That's exactly the scenario people are suggesting and it's ridiculous in my opinion.

Agents do this in all sorts of industries though, it's nothing that unusual. He doesn't have to decide De Gea's ultimate destination but can make things more awkward for United for sure in terms of demands and the time it takes for him to sign.

Plus, there's every possibility that De Gea trusts him a lot. We've often heard of players putting their careers in the hands of their agents. Just look at Falcao. I can't imagine he was planing to go Monaco - Mendes convinced him too no doubt. A big pay packet and likely the opportunity of going to Madrid a year or two later.
 
So if that's true, it's basically a £40m signing on fee that doesn't go to de Gea, and then we'll sell him to Real next year for less than that if he wants out. Sounds financially responsible..

But it's not my money so I don't give a damn unless signing Falcao hinders us from going for another striker.
 


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I just don't see it, it's media speculation.

Imagine you had a solicitor working on a contract for you with your current work place and you found out that they are using you as leverage while negotiating a co-workers contract at the same time. It's beyond unprofessional, it's obscene and you'd rightly be absolutely furious. That's exactly the scenario people are suggesting and it's ridiculous in my opinion.

You're being incredibly naive in my opinion. The man made us sign Bebe as a financial favour. It's not as far fetched as you seem to think. If this was Mino Riaola would still think it's media bollocks? I'd wager not. Agents will do what's necessary not only for their clients but for themselves ultimately. Anyway, my last post on this before Raoul or Damien comes waving the banning stick
 
Why wouldn't Mendes attempt exactly what's being proposed? He'd be stupid not to.
Obviously he'd do it with a degree of subtlety though, and it wouldn't have to be as black and white as "sign Falcao for the full £40 million or de Gea goes!"

Doesn't mean de Gea or United will lap it up either.
 
Why wouldn't Mendes attempt exactly what's being proposed? He'd be stupid not to.
Obviously he'd do it with a degree of subtlety though.

Doesn't mean de Gea or United will lap it up either.

Exactly. I'm not saying it's true but it's certainly not far fetched that he'd at least try it.
 
People have to remember, though, it's a two way street. Mendes has made a lot of money from us and could make a lot more from various deals. He wouldn't want to burn his bridges with us by offering a ridiculous deal.
 
Chelsea's transfer targets depress me. Mainly because they're all perfect for them (and us) and players i'd love to see at Utd and the thought of them signing them is terrifying.
 
So Chelsea appear to be getting themselves sorted already. What about us?

Apparently we've been in contact for Depay, and agreed a deal with Gundogan... Its all speculation, but our speculation definately was happening before this Chelsea stuff the other day.

Anyway we've been told we'll be getting our deals done early, so lets see what happens
 
So Chelsea appear to be getting themselves sorted already. What about us?
Well, Chelsea's targets have watched them wrap up the league with 3 games to go. So, they know what they're getting with them.

In our case, things are still up in the air, so it makes sense for them to wait some more
 
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