I know nothing about him, but Gabriel? Is he considered a similar level to him Otamendi?
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I know nothing about him, but Gabriel? Is he considered a similar level to him Otamendi?
I don't know anything about Gabriel, he's 24 and has never cropped up as a target for any top club I know of until now.
Are we spending your cash or something?
If the money is available and the players improve our team then just spend it. If we don't someone else will and then we'll rue the chance we could have had said player for 35million.
Stranger things have happened. David Luiz went for 50 million then got in team of the year!
Rather sign Garay.
I know people mentioning Cannavaro and Ayala. Great world class defenders.
But I think we need someone more physically dominant than Otamendi. We could sign Godin for that much more.
Plus him and Rojo, I wouldn't be convinced about. We should sign a world class defender.
I know people mentioning Cannavaro and Ayala. Great world class defenders.
But I think we need someone more physically dominant than Otamendi. We could sign Godin for that much more.
Plus him and Rojo, I wouldn't be convinced about. We should sign a world class defender.
Are we spending your cash or something?
If the money is available and the players improve our team then just spend it. If we don't someone else will and then we'll rue the chance we could have had said player for 35million.
Stranger things have happened. David Luiz went for 50 million then got in team of the year!
I guess some fans just don't want us constantly spending huge amounts of money. Probably because for years, we've slated City, Chelsea, PSG, Monaco, Madrid, even Barca for spending cash too freely yet we're likely to become worse than them in that respect.
Is it true he can play RB as well as CB?
I can actually relate to this. Always liked United because while we did spend big bucks on players, they tended to stay here for a long time and we'd also use home grown and not buy as many people as other big clubs, but these days it seems we aren't doing that and it's a shame. However, I don't get why people are saying "this player is only worth £20m and we're offering £30m" and being upset about it. It's not like a product that has a set price, this is a person's service, if we need it that bad to continue being a top club that £30m isn't a bit deal. Not to mention Ed keeps telling everyone we have a bottomless pit of cash, so of course we're gonna be paying inflated prices.
Or others like me absolutely do not care about how much Chelsea or City spend. But think that the club should use his money wisely, for his own good.
Part of that money must have been a bribe, how on earth did he manage to get in that team.Are we spending your cash or something?
If the money is available and the players improve our team then just spend it. If we don't someone else will and then we'll rue the chance we could have had said player for 35million.
Stranger things have happened. David Luiz went for 50 million then got in team of the year!
There's a massive difference in the way City and Chelsea have done it compared to United and Arsenal. Years of investing, being successful and expanding the brand have allowed us to generate the cash. After putting the groundwork in I don't see why we shouldn't be happy to spend the money. Real Madrid have always done it but that's part of their philosophy.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see 5 of our youths come through and be the next class of 92 but realistically, that isn't going to happen any time soon. So, if we're sat on £300 million and we have targets that will cost silly money but will definitely improve the team, then get that money spent! There's no trophy for being the richest team that doesn't compete in Europe or the richest team in the Championship.
"Bayern losing finalist. They were leading for a long time after Pep had very specific plans for Ødegaard, and made a great impression."
I like Ødegaard, hoped we'd sign him. But Christ. This reads like a competition. Bayern losing finalists and Guardiola needing to make a great impression on a talented yes, but ultimately unproven kid. Old school managers like Fergie would've had none of it to be fair.
I like Ødegaard, hoped we'd sign him. But Christ. This reads like a competition. Bayern losing finalists and Guardiola needing to make a great impression on a talented yes, but ultimately unproven kid. Old school managers like Fergie would've had none of it to be fair.
Fergie wouldn't have jumped through hoops like that. It would have been, either you want to play for us or not. Bye Bye. Not sure all this fuss is good for a kid that age. If all this doesn't work he has a long way to fall.
So it seems this bloke has finally decided which club he wants to join, and Real Madrid have won the audition. Not that I was bothered as he was never joining my club.
Fergie would have sent Gary Neville to talk to him.
Ferguson visited Pogba's family at Le Havre.
I think the pursuit of this boy has been on a different scale completely. Hope he lives up to the hype.
It's the press who created this imaged, but in the same time Asensio was living the same thing all the clubs in Europe were trying to sign him.
To be fair to the kid, it's not like he's inviting the press to report on his every move. I'm sure plenty of players have toured the facilities of multiple clubs before deciding which one to sign for. It's just that for Odegaard, it's a lot more high profile.
That's fair but not a similar scenario in terms of context. Fergie privately visited the homes of loads of young players to smooth things over, almost every manager does. Another prime example would be David Beckham. After that, if they want to sign good, if not we move on quietly. But I honestly don't think he would entertain the notion of effectively inexperienced and unproven players courting multiple clubs simultaneously, holding auditions for their signature at 16, grading them and the whole entourage attached with it. Maybe it's magnified by the Norwegian media or maybe it's leaked by the agents to attract publicity and raise the player's profile hmm.. Dunno. But it does seem quite odd.
The problem in what you are saying is that all the young players do that, the difference is that Odegaard is from Norway a little country who is not very good at football, so the press has been very passionate about this case.
They all do it, every single one of them. We had competion for Pogba, as we did with Giggs and Beckham etc. Its nothing new, just that the press have picked up on this. Similar to a few recently like Halilovic and a few others recently. Plus this kid played for Norway at 15 so he was always going to be hyped by the media.
worst possible move for him
Going to the biggest team on the planet? I'm sure if he is good enough he will get games, if he isn't he will move somewhere else.
The big difference is that we make our own money - as opposed to City, Chelsea, PSG & Monaco. Nothing wrong with spending it.
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If you've got a super rich owner, why not spend it? From a neutral perspective, those sort of teams are probably good in a way. It means a wider spread of talent leading to better competition.
Yes, but he's much worse than Smalling as RB.
I don't think anybody is really opposed to spending the money. It's just different where people draw the line. The question is at what point do we have a nice balance between players developed at the club and by that, I mean either home grown or unproven players like Vidic, Evra and so. And ready made expensive transfers like Di Maria and Mata. On my side, I definitely wouldn't be happy with a starting 11 of players who have been bought here already establish top class players. For me, it would simply feel soulless, with no personality or identity whatsoever. I don't mean again any nonsense about the Manchester United way. I just mean something that makes the team have some familiar feel to it. Bayern always have a lot of Germans in there, same with Barcelona and as a big club, so should we.
Having said that, I don't think we should baulk at prices when it is a player who will make a difference even if he is over priced. I felt the team was desperate for an injection of pace and energy last summer so even though I felt Di Maria was over priced at 60 millions, I thought it was more than worth it and that the club would be unwise not to splash. I think for me and few others, we are just dreading a scenario when we send out a team of 30m plus transfers, all of them having already made history and established themselves elsewhere. Having 5 or 6 of those is fine, in fact encouraged and necessary but 10 or 11 is unacceptable to me and many others. I don't care about City and Chelsea as they are small clubs. That was their own way to get where they are now, fair enough to them. We are big, we don't have an excuse to not get that balance right.
If we this is true, and say we did sign Ottamendi and Strootman for 35m each (give or take) it's a combined fee of 70m.
Just think, While we were apparently scouting them, their combined feed was around 30 million. If I were the Glazers, I'd be furious.
Just think, While we were apparently scouting them, their combined feed was around 30 million. If I were the Glazers, I'd be furious.
"Bayern losing finalist" @anchan1989
All that fuss about Odegard is truly ridiculous.
Well the good thing is he's nailed on to completely and utterly disappear after choosing Madrid so at least we don't have to worry about it.
Are we spending your cash or something?
If the money is available and the players improve our team then just spend it. If we don't someone else will and then we'll rue the chance we could have had said player for 35million.
Stranger things have happened. David Luiz went for 50 million then got in team of the year!
Well, seeing as we do have a finite amount of money, I don't want to see us blow it - "cause we can" - on overpriced players. How United spend money affects performances on the pitch, which in turn affects me because I want them to perform well. Whether it's my money or not is completely irrelevant and believing it doesn't matter how we spend it is an inane piece of reasoning.
Let's see which teams have the best defences in the PL, the competitive benchmark for us: City, Chelsea and Southampton. Now, which of the defenders in those teams cost more than 20m? And please don't mention Mangala because a) Demichelis is preferred to him and b) he's shit.
He is and they bought him.
Giovinco to join Toronto at end of season. Bizarre to say the least.
Edging out Kaka for highest paid player in the league at $7m/year.
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