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Our contract policy when it comes to youth players is shocking. You'd have thought if any youth player manages to get 10 games for the first team, we automatically offer them a new deal or something along them lines. We'd get a few £ million out of both if we wanted to sell, even if we offered them new deals.

How is it shocking?

Some players want more than they deserve.

Januzaj got a new contract after winning us games. McNair rejected his offer. its not like we don't offer them contracts you know.
 
That article has one quote in it -

A source close to Van Persie said: “Increasingly it is looking like his future will be elsewhere and he is beginning to think that himself.”

I'll be happy to post the full thing if the mods allow it.

Bit off topic but why would you subscribe to the sun ? :p
 
How is it shocking?

Some players want more than they deserve.

Januzaj got a new contract after winning us games. McNair rejected his offer. its not like we don't offer them contracts you know.

And they look at the greater picture. They might think they'd be more likely to get regular football elsewhere which is probably the situation with Pereira.
 
If LVG wants to build something then players like McNair and Blackett are likely to be shipped out anyway, be it on loan, transfer or let go. Both decent players who will go on to have solid careers I think but no great loss, the Zeki Fryers type.

Mcnair is just 19. Pretty new relatively to the CB role and done well for a youngster thrown into the deep end.

No way we let him go on a free so soon. I think both and particularly Mcnair will be offered decent contracts and loaned if it is needed and then sold in future if they aren't good enough.


Also, last time i checked you need a squad full of different profiles of players. Bewildering why anyone would want to cut Mcnair for free in that case. Wanting only established superstars everywhere, Impatience and blaming our failures in all incorrect directions here is getting too much.
 
Mcnair is just 19. Pretty new relatively to the CB role and done well for a youngster thrown into the deep end.

No way we let him go on a free so soon. I think both and particularly Mcnair will be offered decent contracts and loaned if it is needed and then sold in future if they aren't good enough.

Also, last time i checked you need a squad full of different profiles of players. Bewildering why anyone would want to cut Mcnair for free in that case.

Good enough to be playing for Man Utd though? Not for me, new contract and then loaned out? Fine but I'm not losing sleep if he thinks he can get a better deal elsewhere.

Fosu Mensah really won't be far away next season and United are undoubtedly strengthening the defence, if not now in then in the summer. The United of now won't look anywhere near the same this time next year.
 
Good enough to be playing for Man Utd though? Not for me, new contract and then loaned out? Fine but I'm not losing sleep if he thinks he can get a better deal elsewhere.

Fosu Mensah really won't be far away next season and United are undoubtedly strengthening the defence, if not now in then in the summer. The United of now won't look anywhere near the same this time next year.

Mcnair definitely has a chance. He is only 19 and done quite well given the circumstances and his experience. CB's also mature relatively late let alone one who has such less experience playing there.

The U18 group has sm good CB prospects (Williams, Tuanzebe as well) but let them first play in the u21s and cross the bridge when it comes to it. Mensah seems a good CM prospect so far anyway.

And not sure what changes you are expecting anyway. We will buy one established CB you'd imagine and sell someone like Evans. Either way no way should Mcnair be sold or let to leave easily till he atleast turns 21/22. (And even that might be low for a CB if he keeps improving.) Even the potential marginal cost even if he doesn't make it at United seems high.
 
I'd expect Evans to be the big loser (on current form and potential) if we do sign a new CB -and- return to 4 at the back. We can always loan out the young CBs we have and see how they get on. They already have prem experience now so you'd think they'd get decent offers.
 
Sorry can't read tweets at work, whats all this then?

Long story short, James Cooper (SSN reporter) says that money isn't an issue and that we have a list of targets this month but feel they won't be allowed to move this window and so are planning another massive spend in the summer.
 
Long story short, James Cooper (SSN reporter) says that money isn't an issue and that we have a list of targets this month but feel they won't be allowed to move this window and so are planning another massive spend in the summer.

Nice one, cheers!
 


"LvG said Falcao has to prove himself and does not think #mufc will be very active in this transfer window. Story @mailsport soon."- for those who can't see the tweet.

Big mistake if we don't bring in any defenders this window, the defense we have available will cost us a top four place I fear.
 


"LvG said Falcao has to prove himself and does not think #mufc will be very active in this transfer window. Story @mailsport soon."- for those who can't see the tweet.

Big mistake if we don't bring in any defenders this window, the defense we have available will cost us a top four place I fear.


LvG said that we wont buy anyone who is not better than the players we already got. I think thats fair enough. Why buy players that is not on the top shelf. If the players we want are not available, we cant get them, thats just the way it is.
 








All from Sky Sports this morning.


Brilliant.

One more summer of £150m and we'll be set for years to come, of course we're not gonna know exactly who we will sign but I'd try sign:


Reus/Bale (£50-60m)
Hummels/Varane
Pogba/Gundogan


Those targets would see us set to challenge titles for at least 5 years. Any business during those years would just be marquee signings or youth prospects.
 
Brilliant.

One more summer of £150m and we'll be set for years to come, of course we're not gonna know exactly who we will sign but I'd try sign:


Reus/Bale (£50-60m)
Hummels/Varane
Pogba/Gundogan


Those targets would see us set to challenge titles for at least 5 years. Any business during those years would just be marquee signings or youth prospects.
If it's anything like last summer are we really going to be close to a complete squad?
 
Brilliant.

One more summer of £150m and we'll be set for years to come, of course we're not gonna know exactly who we will sign but I'd try sign:


Reus/Bale (£50-60m)
Hummels/Varane
Pogba/Gundogan


Those targets would see us set to challenge titles for at least 5 years. Any business during those years would just be marquee signings or youth prospects.

Except we'll still have no-one to play RB, since Rafael is always injured, and we'll still have a bunch of ageing Strikers who lack pace
 
What I do like the sound of is that we have a list of targets and we aren't willing to budge on it. If the players are right for us then lets not buy others now for the sake of it. I think we can make the top 4 with what we have, especially as improvements will still come from the current lot.
 
LvG said that we wont buy anyone who is not better than the players we already got. I think thats fair enough. Why buy players that is not on the top shelf. If the players we want are not available, we cant get them, thats just the way it is.
That is fine, but if this defence cost us the top 4 it will be terrible. If we don't get it and Arsenal do, who do you think Hummels will go to. Manchester and no CL or London with CL?
 
That is fine, but if this defence cost us the top 4 it will be terrible. If we don't get it and Arsenal do, who do you think Hummels will go to. Manchester and no CL or London with CL?

Been making same point on another thread. Its a mistake not to strengthen now...and it could be a colossal mistake at that.
 
That is fine, but if this defence cost us the top 4 it will be terrible. If we don't get it and Arsenal do, who do you think Hummels will go to. Manchester and no CL or London with CL?

TBH lately it hasn't even been the defence that has been the problem.
 
I really want and hope we will buy in this window, because we really need it and it could be difference from us getting CL or not. If its not, we are in really deep shit.
 
That is fine, but if this defence cost us the top 4 it will be terrible. If we don't get it and Arsenal do, who do you think Hummels will go to. Manchester and no CL or London with CL?
If anything its been our misfiring attack that have been costing us games. We've conceeded 7 goals in 11 PL matches since November. The draws and 1-0 loss would have been wins had our strikers taken their chances (there were definitely enough of them).

Defence has been relatively ok and I dont see a point in signing someone like Vlaar for him to rot on the subs bench from August onwards.
 
TBH lately it hasn't even been the defence that has been the problem.
It has though, their lack of ability on the ball has impacted on the players ahead of them. Everybody is that scared of the ball being lost they are just passing it backwards and forwards between the defenders and DDG. Is there nobody in that defence with any balls at all?
 
Brilliant.

One more summer of £150m and we'll be set for years to come, of course we're not gonna know exactly who we will sign but I'd try sign:


Reus/Bale (£50-60m)
Hummels/Varane
Pogba/Gundogan


Those targets would see us set to challenge titles for at least 5 years. Any business during those years would just be marquee signings or youth prospects.

Bale £85m
Hummels £40m
Pogba £75m

Total £200m

Gets you a team

Di Maria____Van Persie____Bale
____Carrick__Rooney__Pogba____
Shaw__Hummels__Jones__Rafael
___________De Gea___________

Attack

Average yearly goals and games going on recent rates.

Van Persie 13 in 26
Rooney 16 in 29
Bale 15 in 26
Di Maria 5 in 28
Pogba 7 in 32

56 goals in 28 games from your stars; add in goals from defenders and however many lesser players could get in the other 10 games (maybe about 20) and you're struggling to get to 75 in a season.

That's a few more goals than Chelsea got last season, but Chelsea didn't have a striker and conceded only 20 odd goals to finish 3rd.

Midfield

Pogba isn't protecting Carrick much on his own and Rooney probably gets dragged deeper.

Defence

Hummels struggles against pace, you're still left with one of Jones or Smalling, Rafael's often injured and Shaw good defensively but limited.

£200m and you're still lacking the balance of a title winning team. Needs more than money splashing to do it.
 
If anything its been our misfiring attack that have been costing us games. We've conceeded 7 goals in 11 PL matches since November. The draws and 1-0 loss would have been wins had our strikers taken their chances (there were definitely enough of them).

Defence has been relatively ok and I dont see a point in signing someone like Vlaar for him to rot on the subs bench from August onwards.
Then we can blame last summer for not strengthening the defence, signing Falcao and ADM to get brownie points with the fans instead of addressing the real needs. Then because of it having to play Rooney in midfield and ADM wide or up front to cover for the attacking deficiencies of the defence. Yes they are defending OK, I will say OK, they have been remarkably lucky and the luck ran out last week.
 
It has though, their lack of ability on the ball has impacted on the players ahead of them. Everybody is that scared of the ball being lost they are just passing it backwards and forwards between the defenders and DDG. Is there nobody in that defence with any balls at all?

It's easy, stop playing a formation which relies on your defenders (who are not brilliant on the ball) to be brilliant on the ball. Instead use a midfielder (Blind/Carrick) to bring the ball out of defence and start attacks. I.E play to the strengths of your squad.
 
Been making same point on another thread. Its a mistake not to strengthen now...and it could be a colossal mistake at that.

It would be of no use if we can only get good but not great players now, who'll we have to replace anyway in a short space of time (or not be able to get rid, and have them take squad space).

The worst thing that can happen is that we won't qualify to the CL, which is bad but not a disaster. We need to build the squad right and for that we need to take a longer term view than one season.
 
It would be of no use if we can only get good but not great players now, who'll we have to replace anyway in a short space of time (or not be able to get rid, and have them take squad space).

The worst thing that can happen is that we won't qualify to the CL, which is bad but not a disaster. We need to build the squad right and for that we need to take a longer term view than one season.

It actually is a disaster, 2 seasons out of the UCL is a disaster and £150m and no UCL qualification will loose LVG his job.
 
It actually is a disaster, 2 seasons out of the UCL is a disaster and £150m and no UCL qualification will loose LVG his job.
I agree, yes the club probably could take the hit, but it would mean another manager. Not being able to get the players we want and desperately need to progress. The only way we might get them is if someone like Guardiola or Simeone( bringing half his team with him) were emplyed by us. In the meantime the clubs that are in the Top 4 are signing the top notch players and the gap will get harder and harder to bridge.
 
Lets not forget, if we miss out on the champions league again we lose 200m ( around that i think) from the addidas deal. Which is a huge incentive to spend the cash now on players with release clauses.
 
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