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bucky said:
Seems that those kind of players aren't working for us or we don't know how to make the best use of them.
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Isco is a lot more flexible, though. A bit more in the Silva mould. Gritty, works hard, has decent pace but most of all is a great dribbler in taking players on. Can really play as the AM or either flank.
 
DWelbz19 said:
Isco is a lot more flexible, though. A bit more in the Silva mould. Gritty, works hard, has decent pace but most of all is a great dribbler in taking players on. Can really play as the AM or either flank.
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Agree and no doubt he's great, it just seems that after Mata, Kagawa, to an extent Ander Herrera and even di Maria not playing all that well or being inconsistent, that we don't get the best of these, which makes me think that the same would happen with Silva, if he would play for us.

Damien said:
So they have been playing 442? Strange
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Quite a lot actually. I think it worked for them well, too.
 
bucky said:
Agree and no doubt he's great, it just seems that after Mata, Kagawa, to an extent Ander Herrera and even di Maria not playing all that well or being inconsistent, that we don't get the best of these, which makes me think that the same would happen with Silva, if he would play for us.



Quite a lot actually. I think it worked for them well, too.
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I actually think Mata has looked very creative when played in a #10 role behind two strikers. His record for us isn't bad either, 11 goals in 30 games I think it is. Can't really put him in the flop bracket. He'd look miles better with 2 solid CM's behind him.
 
DWelbz19 said:
Isco is a lot more flexible, though. A bit more in the Silva mould. Gritty, works hard, has decent pace but most of all is a great dribbler in taking players on. Can really play as the AM or either flank.
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Isco loses the ball a lot less than Di Maria used to. Would imagine Van Gaal loving him for that. Same goes for Bale also.
 
Maccaa said:
I actually think Mata has looked very creative when played in a #10 role behind two strikers. His record for us isn't bad either, 11 goals in 30 games I think it is. Can't really put him in the flop bracket. He'd look miles better with 2 solid CM's behind him.
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True, as well. I just think that Mata is one of the players, who shouldn't be in the starting XI in the near future, although he's the numbers and is suited to the possession game, we are currently trying to play. He'd probably benefit from quick players around him a lot, still, I prefer Ander Herrera to him, since he's influencing the game in general more than Mata in my eyes and I hope we are moving to a 4-3-3 formation, which would suit Herrera very well. Then there is di Maria, who most want to see as our attacking midfielder and while I think he'd be good for us out wide as well, I'd prefer him centrally to Mata as well. Sooner than later I think, Mata is going to be one the players, who's going to miss out on the starting XI and he's one of those cases where we can't be too sentimental about it.
 
luckyspurs said:
Isco loses the ball a lot less than Di Maria used to. Would imagine Van Gaal loving him for that. Same goes for Bale also.
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Yeah, that's where I think I was going with Silva comparison - his ball retention and shielding the ball is fantastic at his best. Bale may lose it less than di Maria but his influence is a lot different.
 
I say if Real sign Reus and want to get rid of Bale then there should be no chance of the fee being near the reported £120 million or whatever insane amount it was. If they want to sell him then let them take a hit on the fee.
 
Silverman said:
Tbh Godin seems to be the best option realistically available. He is a leader and something that we are badly missing.
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Is he realistically available though? Hard to see what we offer that Atletico don't, except for money.
 
Sied said:
Is he realistically available though? Hard to see what we offer that Atletico don't, except for money.
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Despite the romanticised ideas some people still have of football, a players main concern when choosing a club is the money they will make. We can offer lots of it, hence the reason we managed to get the players we did after finishing 7th.
 
But is he the type to be bought or is he another Koke?
 
Raoul said:
If money weren't important Man City would have half the squad they have.
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I don't think there's one player bought by City who was a starter in a potential league and Champions League winning side. So the circumstances are a bit different.

Aguero - step up, or at least sideways.
Silva - same.
Toure - not wanted by Barcelona.

Who else?
 
Speak said:
I don't think there's one player bought by City who was a starter in a potential league and Champions League winning side. So the circumstances are a bit different.

Aguero - step up, or at least sideways.
Silva - same.
Toure - not wanted by Barcelona.

Who else?
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Come on. All 3 could have gone to bigger and more prestigious clubs.
 
Godin would be absolutely fantastic, but even if he does have a release clause that's realistic, would he come to United? He's already playing in a great team, that's more of a team than any other top side out there, with a manager who's been inspirational. Hummels on the other hand..
 
Speak said:
I don't think there's one player bought by City who was a starter in a potential league and Champions League winning side. So the circumstances are a bit different.

Aguero - step up, or at least sideways.
Silva - same.
Toure - not wanted by Barcelona.

Who else?
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Its not so important whether or not they were starters or not. The point is they left big clubs to come to a relatively obscure mid table side who were splashing around a lot of cash after they were bought out. Players and their agents usually respond to money above all else.
 
Locka said:
Come on. All 3 could have gone to bigger and more prestigious clubs.
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Yep, they could have (if clubs had put in the same concrete offers for them) I'm not denying that. It's not really what I was arguing either.

But (unlike Godin) they weren't leaving starting positions in a sides who were challenging for all honours. So it wouldn't be similar.
 
Speak said:
Yep, they could have (if clubs had put in the same concrete offers for them) I'm not denying that. It's not really what I was arguing either.

But (unlike Godin) they weren't leaving starting positions in a sides who were challenging for all honours. So it wouldn't be similar.
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I just realised I skipped a few pages and we changed topic, my bad. You're right, Godic is challenging for big honours still. I couldn't see it happening until the summer.
 
Raoul said:
Its not so important whether or not they were starters or not. The point is they left big clubs to come to a relatively obscure mid table side who were splashing around a lot of cash after they were bought out. Players and their agents usually respond to money above all else.
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It doesn't matter if they were traditional 'big' clubs. Valencia and Atletico weren't doing what Atletico are doing today. Joining City wasn't an immediate step down in anything other than club prestige, which doesn't mean much if said club aren't winning trophies.

I agree that money matters though.

But Silva, for example, leaving Valencia (who were going nowhere) to join City, who were likely to go somewhere is different to Godin leaving Atletico who are challenging on all fronts to join a team that isn't.
 
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Those El Confidencial reports of Reus to Real reckon they've offered him €270,000 per week.
 
Speak said:
It doesn't matter if they were traditional 'big' clubs. Valencia and Atletico weren't doing what Atletico are doing today. Joining City wasn't an immediate step down in anything other than club prestige, which doesn't mean much if said club aren't winning trophies.

I agree that money matters though.

But Silva, for example, leaving Valencia (who were going nowhere) to join City, who were likely to go somewhere is different to Godin leaving Atletico who are challenging on all fronts to join a team that isn't.
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Not sure what the point is here to be honest. Its not like Valencia and Atletico are Spanish minnows who couldn't hang on to their players. Both clubs have intermittently been winning trophies over the years as well as been to CL finals. Its clear their players were lured away by ridiculously inflated wage packages compared to what they made in Spain.
 
Raoul said:
Not sure what the point is here to be honest. Its not like Valencia and Atletico are Spanish minnows who couldn't hang on to their players. Both clubs have intermittently been winning trophies over the years as well as been to CL finals. Its clear their players were lured away by ridiculously inflated wage packages compared to what they made in Spain.
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I think the point he is trying to make is that established players at clubs who are challenging for trophies very rarely leave because A) they're happy where they are and B) the club they're at has a strong bargaining position. I don't see anything incorrect with this argument. Some people were making out in the summer as if you can have any player if you want if you offer enough money and using City as a proof which was simply wrong as transfers for established players at top club very rarely happen. In fact, the only ones I can think of out of the past 10 years would be Kaka and Ronaldo and you can make a case for Milan not being top dogs at the time.
 
Raoul said:
Not sure what the point is here to be honest. Its not like Valencia and Atletico are Spanish minnows who couldn't hang on to their players. Both clubs have intermittently been winning trophies over the years as well as been to CL finals. Its clear their players were lured away by ridiculously inflated wage packages compared to what they made in Spain.
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The initial post stated that United don't really offer anything that Atletico can't other than higher wages (a debate in itself).
You seemed to imply that money alone was enough for City to secure their players.

I'm arguing that, aside from money, City did offer things that those other clubs couldn't - an increased chance of silverware, which Godin wouldn't necessarily get by leaving his current club to join United. You don't believe City represented a better chance of silverware than Valencia and Atletico, which is fair enough.
 
I honestly would not be one bit surprised if Madrid signed Reus anyway, but even for Madrid wouldn't Bale be too new to sell? Then again it wouldn't really shock you would it.

So if Bale was to move in the summer we'd be all over it and rightly so but anything over £60 million and we're idiots.
 


McNair rejected an initial offer as well supposedly.
 
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