Announcing a deal we made with annah, In return for not using our financial advantage to jack up prices at the beginning of the window plus 5 million in cash plus Gallas, Ferdinand goes to my team.
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Not buying a left back because he has to "pay on top" for Messi makes no sense. It really doesn't.
I can see your angle, of course, as far as stopping him completing his side is concerned. That's not really a money issue though (unless the entire point is "you can only get Messi if you keep a shit LB").
One being better than the other is nonsense at this level. I've been saying it for days now, at this stage "better" is defined by fit into a system, not individual quality, records or awards. Both players are worth as much as each other to either team, quite clearly. Without them, neither looks complete and with them there's no room for improvement. That's not really a money issue either.
So it boils down to you would only let him have Messi if he keeps Capdevila at LB. Of course I wouldn't agree with that.
The LBs he wants are not available now anyway, he can get the top tier ones in the next round and messi in this round can help him get there. 1:1 is never going to get us anywhere near the negotiating table, you miscalculated us there, annah will not get messi
What sort of fecked up shit have you guys been negotiating? Gallas? WTF?
So you are saying you both agreed not to make Messi a 50M player? Surely that's where his "higher value" is? i.e. you saved it! And then you ask him to pay it separately anyway?
And also swap him Ferdinand for Gallas + 5M? That make Gallas a 7M player, Annah could have got Campbell or Marquez for less than that. Makes no sense.
Is this for real?
Whenever y'all start the next draft, please count me in. Thanks.
I'm not calculating anything. All I said is there's no way he should go into the semi with Joan fecking Capdevila at LB, which means he has no money to pay on top. He doesn't need any LB other than Abidal, he is perfect and better for his side than any of these so-called top tier ones.
I told him to conclude his dealings and offer whatever was left, not end up hamstrung to a deal. As it turns out, he has been hamstrung by some spastic deal involving William Gallas.
Absolutely bonkers.
Dont understand why you are getting so worked up, surely annah does not have to account everything to you?
Shiiiiit. The draft database himself has entered.
Jeez. What's the point of auction draft with such deals?
It makes no sense but within the rules so do as you want.
I Don care anymore but very poor form
I'm getting worked up because it was quite clear when I was in convo with Annah earlier today that you guys were frying his brain. And to top it all off you are now trying to pin this on me? Really? It's a simple deal, you don't want to do it, then don't, no one to pin it on but yourself.
One option is to keep it purely auction without transfers between teams
Up to future players to decide
I doubt Annah cares any more either. Doubt he even agrees with this as he was contemplating a swap with MJJ for Nesta. Now he has Gallas and 5 quid.
Not everything has to be in the rules.
How about just playing properly without colluding to get better teams? What if I offered scholes n goofy to mjj for 10m? That's with in the rules but that would be against any proper conduct since it is 2 people colluding when they should be opponents.
I Don even care anymore about winning this.
You and annah can deal you way to a draft win
I'm not sure what your problem is with transfers man, transfers have been in this all the way through and you bid before for Rivaldo and Ronaldo. Pretty much everyone has done transfers.
Why would I announce a deal if there was no agreement?
No offence Anto but I wont be drawn into arguing this
If we are colluding we would have done the deal on messi so that is your hypothesis out of the window
I don't really care anymore. I won't withdraw now since it won't be fair to teams I beat.
I would rather MJJ with this now than any of you two conspiring to play the auction market.
In interest of transparency I have offered him Scholes in a straight swap with Marquez.
I would rather MJJ with this now than any of you two conspiring to play the auction market.
In interest of transparency I have offered him Scholes in a straight swap with Marquez.
That is pathetic Crappy. Jesus Christ.There was no conspiring between Pol and Annah - as has been pointed out they are both screwing each other over by not agreeing a swap of Ronaldo and Messi.
conspiring
These are not simple transfers. He effectively bought Rio for you. It is completely against the very nature of auction draft, whatever the rules maybe.
Anyway carry on. I won't be pipping up anymore before my match thread.
Why would I announce a deal if there was no agreement?
No offence Anto but I wont be drawn into arguing this
I don't see a single good reason why he would take Gallas and 5M he doesn't need over a straight swap for Nesta. None at all. It has to be reluctant agreement, no other explanation.
This is the best moment since anto called Brwned Stalin.
Pol and Theon - the draft conspirators.
Pol and Theon - the draft conspirators.
There was no conspiring between Pol and Annah - as has been pointed out they are both screwing each other over by not agreeing a swap of Ronaldo and Messi.
How is this pathetic? I am doing what is legally in the rules. Just like you two did. You would never see it as wrong like you did not wit the Muller deal. Auction is about competing with other teams for players. I happily paid 24m for Carlos rather than make any deals, same with Davids and Thuram this round. I told MJJ he can continue bidding for Thuram if he wants rather than cutting a deal.
Annah too, in fairness.This is the best moment since anto called Brwned Stalin.
Pol and Theon - the draft conspirators.
This is the best moment since anto called Brwned Stalin.
Pol and Theon - the draft conspirators.
I think he means Pol and Annah - so that is why he wants MJJ to win.
But Pol and Annah have screwed each other over here, there has been a few deals but the big one hasn't happened and has just made both teams worse. Annah needs Messi more and Pol needs Ronaldo.
How do you enforce this BTW? If Annah refused now, what will happen? It's bogus.
In fairness crappy, I don't think he did. He bought him for himself and both him and MJJ were interested in a Nesta-Ferdinand swap this morning. Now Gallas shows up... I would get it if it was part of the Messi-Ronaldo "required surplus", but not as a standalone deal.
Fair enough, Scholes going away for free is obviously on another level though.
Muller was a substitute getting sold - it isnt the same.
Hah! Not even close to being true. Messi strengthens Annah much much more than Ronaldo would your team. I thought actually it was very proper of Pol to ask for Ronaldo + money for Messi, made sense.
It is not free. It is a swap with a player, with in the rules.
Nope. Here is what Pol said-
In return for not using our financial advantage to jack up prices at the beginning of the window plus 5 million in cash plus Gallas, Ferdinand goes to my team.
This effectively means that they had a deal in place even before the window opened.
If a deal was cut after Rio made his way to Annah then I have no issues
Completely agree it makes sense. A 1:1 swap should never have happened, I said that to Annah and Pol. Antohan seems to have persuaded him otherwise though.
What I mean is that if there was any real collusion then they would have just agreed an amicable deal. But they haven't, they're going into the games with weaker teams than they would if they worked together so I dont think you can say they have conspired.
I am only talking about the Rio deal.
I am not confirming this deal. The deal is 7 millions and Gallas for Ferdinand and not the originally stated 5 millions. So until Polaroid is capable of paying 7 millions it will not go through as he currently just has 5.
Would you care to spell out what exactly was the deal and when it was made?
Thanks
During the window you are free to bid for these players, if you chose not to and others proceeded to fulfill their deals, you then voice your objection after the auction?
I bid for Ferdinand without the intent of getting him to increase the price on him. Ended up getting him and now I am going for something else. I got Gallas for free as I may buy just one CB and play him with Gallas if I want. Will see what I will do, most likely buy another target I prefer.